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  • So, you want to be creative? Without knowing the underlying details, here's a free coach for this year, who has been in our pool of replacements. He has the luxury of being paid a modest amount for next year, say, as the third coach on your staff at 40K, with the Umile/Scarano/Souza promise he'll be "strongly considered" should an opening come up in say, March 2024.

    https://www.michigandaily.com/ice-ho...quest-reveals/
    “Pursuant to your employment agreement, the University will continue to pay your base salary on a monthly basis until the expiration of your contract term, April 30, 2024,” the letter reads. “These payments are subject to your obligation to seek alternative employment as discussed in more detail in the employment agreement.”
    This guarantees that — no matter if he’s successful in finding a new job or not — Muckalt will receive at least $230,000 for the 2023-24 season. For example, if he made $100,000 from a different job, the University would then owe him the remaining $130,000 if he proved he was still looking for new employment.

    05-02-2023, 05:13 PM
    Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
    Another name in the hopper
    Well, it's May 2nd and the axe appears to not have fallen in Durham.....Muckalt will inevitably get picked up by the one of the myriad of schools that are already actively looking for new coaches.

    Dan, May 2022
    UNH's immediate connections & radar don't have any shoe in candidates - Ayers? Dean? - and it didn't work out well last time they went that route anyway. I'd love a home run swing at a Blashill type. At the very least they need a deep dive and consideration into any and all candidates, connections be damned (Muckalt, Jackson, Harbinson, Jones, the SHU/Toronto guy you like). A similar plan as the hires made this season will only disappoint me...

    NCAA watcher
    04-01-2022, 08:05 AM
    While killing time to see if anyone in the portal might sign on with UNH.....
    If we're dreaming, Ryan Hardy the former USHL Chicago GM, now an assistant GM in Toronto, would be great. But like Blashill, they're pipedreams. Even Reid Cashman at Dartmouth is probably out of the realm (don't know what outs he has in his contract). The good thing is the Barr has been set so low at UNH that every hire, even a current assistant at a successful program like Dane Jackson or Bill Muckalt, would be more qualified than Souza was, and will be an improvement. With that perspective, I trust the process, even without knowing who the new AD will be.

    Dan, February 2022
    My list of candidates would start with Clarkson's Casey Jones, Associate HC's Dane Jackson, Bill Muckalt, Joe Dumais & Ron Rolston, and junior hockey bench boss Fred Harbinson, among others. There are a number of other great candidates to be considered, but my goal would be to cast a wide net and aim high. Not to settle on, and for, low hanging fruit..
    Last edited by NCAA watcher; 08-05-2023, 10:39 AM.
    The Souza record:
    15-16 10th place
    16-17 10th place
    17-18 11th place
    18-19 8th place
    19-20 9th place
    20-21 10th place
    21-22 9th place
    22-23 10th place

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    • Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
      So, you want to be creative? Without knowing the underlying details, here's a free coach for this year, who would have been in my pool of replacements. Hire him as the third coach on your staff at 80K, with a promise he'll be "strongly considered" should an opening come up in say, March 2024. (AKA, the Umile/Scarano fix is in)
      LOL the idea of Muckalt coming in as 3rd coach with a promise for 2024 consideration, certainly would have been a highly entertaining scenario to keep us jackals yipping in advance of next Spring ... but putting aside the inconvenience of the likelihood that our prodigal goalies coach may now be back in the fold WITH pay to use up the 3rd slot, what would have been in it for Muckalt? $80,000 with a "strongly considered" promise don't sound like much in the way of compensation for having to spend the better part of a full year living out of a Holiday Inn Express, and dealing with coaching colleagues who may not be great (or even passable) D-1 coaches, but will definitely be able to read "your writing on their wall" and treat you with all the warmth and friendliness of the second coming of the Black Plague. In short, it's mutually assured destruction, and even if you end up getting hired as HC after that ordeal, I'm guessing the fan base is hardly going to be doing handstands in our collective enthuiasm.

      "Creative" walked out the door once AD Rich decided to prolong the mutual agony of MS7, his staff, their families, and what's left of a decimated UNH Hockey fanbase by refusing to do the right thing, and not buying him out this past Spring when it absolutely positively could have been done.

      Souza/Stewart/Guiliano would all probably be in new jobs by now, probably with lower blood pressures and happier families, and some assistant type (let's say Dumais) would be all settled in, bringing new energy to the program, its players, the school and its fans out in the NH hinterlands (like Effingwoods). As it is, UNH got a commit from some kid who probably grew up a few blocks from the WIS Estate, and I didn't even know about it ...
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      • First, Muckalt is in a position where, unless he gets a gig paying more than $230, he doesn't care how little the new gig pays for next year. He may even prefer that U.Mich picks up more of the tab :smiley: (And by being a NH resident, he may even minimize his taxable income)

        As for workplace dynamics, tell Muckalt he doesn't even have to come to Durham much and interact with the current coaches. Spend the year vacationing in his home BC, recruiting kids for 2024.
        And he'd be secure with the same Souza promise, of "consideration" after Umile retired -- unless he kills someone in the next year, he'd be the HC.

        Muckalt recruited most of the Mich high profile kids the past decade, including all the first rounders. Now, it may be that Michigan gives you five legs up on kids, and the HC has a big role of the brand you are selling, but you still have to beat out the other top 5 schools.

        6/18/2017 Philippe Lapointe
        6/28/2017 Ethan Szmagaj
        7/22/2017 Cole McWard
        7/24/2017 John Beecher
        7/27/2017 Dylan Wendt
        8/18/2017 Nicholas Zabaneh
        9/6/2017 Keaton Pehrson
        9/13/2017 Bode Wilde
        9/16/2017 Dylan Duke
        9/21/2017 Jake Gingell
        10/5/2017 Jack Summers
        10/7/2017 Cassidy Bowes
        10/17/2017 Josh Groll
        10/21/2017 Jimmy Lambert
        10/26/2017 Cole Perfetti
        10/31/2017 Garrett Van Wyhe
        11/15/2017 Nolan Moyle
        11/30/2017 Austen Swankler
        12/3/2017 Strauss Mann
        12/6/2017 Jack Olmstead
        12/22/2017 Nick Blankenburg
        1/22/2018 Nick Granowicz
        2/22/2018 Connor Levis
        2/27/2018 Jake Harrison
        3/30/2018 Tyler Haskins
        4/1/2018 Andrei Bakanov
        4/4/2018 Owen Power
        5/25/2018 Luke Hughes
        6/1/2018 Steve Holtz
        7/30/2018 Brendan Brisson
        8/1/2018 Mackie Samoskevich
        8/15/2018 Hunter Brzustewicz
        10/28/2018 Seamus Casey
        11/20/2018 Cam York
        11/29/2018 Ethan Edwards
        12/4/2018 Eric Ciccolini
        1/19/2019 Nick Bochen
        2/22/2019 Mats Lindgren
        3/10/2019 Finlay Williams
        4/16/2019 Erik Portillo
        4/22/2019 Frank Nazar
        7/8/2019 Jay Keranen
        8/28/2019 Thomas Bordeleau
        10/15/2019 Mark Estapa
        1/9/2020 Luca Fantilli
        8/1/2020 Matthew Beniers
        8/1/2020 Andon Cerbone
        9/1/2020 Jackson Hallum
        10/29/2020 John Druskinis
        7/30/2021 Brendan Miles
        8/1/2021 Jack Willson
        8/25/2021 Adam Fantilli
        8/28/2021 Trey Augustine
        9/2/2021 Charlie Cerrato
        9/12/2021 Brian Nicholas
        9/29/2021 Gavin Brindley
        10/9/2021 Matthew Virgilio
        11/12/2021 Kienan Draper
        1/23/2022 Garrett Schifsky
        3/11/2022 T.J. Hughes
        6/2/2022 Tyler Shea
        7/9/2022 Teddy Spitznagel
        8/1/2022 Brian Lonergan
        10/28/2022 Tanner Rowe
        11/1/2022 Nicholas Moldenhauer
        11/8/2022 Aidan Park
        12/1/2022 Michael Hage
        12/7/2022 Kristian Epperson
        2/22/2023 Marcus Brannman
        3/22/2023 Joshua Orrico
        3/31/2023 Stephen Peck
        5/11/2023 Dakoda Rheaume-Mullen
        The Souza record:
        15-16 10th place
        16-17 10th place
        17-18 11th place
        18-19 8th place
        19-20 9th place
        20-21 10th place
        21-22 9th place
        22-23 10th place

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        • Another candidate to consider...

          https://www.uscho.com/2023/07/29/fan...s-hockey-team/
          Live Free or Die!!
          Miami University '03

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          • Useless NHL trivia while we slog through the summer in search of a fresh patch of ice somewhere ...

            Connor McDavid has posted 3 consecutive 100 point seasons through the end of last season, and is looking to become the first NHL player since the following two Hall of Famers accomplished/extended their streaks to at least 4 straight seasons (in the same season) last century. Name them both (hint - neither of them were UNH alums)?
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            • Wait, they play hockey at levels above the college level? I'd seen some clips of a bunch of big guys filling up the ice so nobody can move, and then taking shots hoping for some fortunate bounces or deflections getting into the .01% of the net not covered by a michelin man. So most games are essentially random, and not decided by skill. Is that the game you speak of?
              Although I have seen that they have a rule that after 60 minutes of randomness, they reward the fans who sat through the pinball game by removing a skater to create some actual space for skilled players, and there is a brief 5 minute where they showcase their players.
              The Souza record:
              15-16 10th place
              16-17 10th place
              17-18 11th place
              18-19 8th place
              19-20 9th place
              20-21 10th place
              21-22 9th place
              22-23 10th place

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              • Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
                First, Muckalt is in a position where, unless he gets a gig paying more than $230, he doesn't care how little the new gig pays for next year. He may even prefer that U.Mich picks up more of the tab :smiley: (And by being a NH resident, he may even minimize his taxable income)

                As for workplace dynamics, tell Muckalt he doesn't even have to come to Durham much and interact with the current coaches. Spend the year vacationing in his home BC, recruiting kids for 2024.
                And he'd be secure with the same Souza promise, of "consideration" after Umile retired -- unless he kills someone in the next year, he'd be the HC.

                Muckalt recruited most of the Mich high profile kids the past decade, including all the first rounders. Now, it may be that Michigan gives you five legs up on kids, and the HC has a big role of the brand you are selling, but you still have to beat out the other top 5 schools.
                I cut out your table, as I get your point there, and don't get me wrong ... I'd personally drive Muckalt to the Durham Holiday Inn Express all the way from BC if I thought he'd take the job. Tomorrow even. I just don't see what would be in it for him here, that he wouldn't be able to get at any number of places WAY closer to home, and WAY closer to his recruiting "happy hunting grounds". I mean, when's the last time a Michigan kid of any significance decided to come ply his wares here in Seacoast NH? I do like your "selling point" to Muckalt on saving a few extra dollars on NH residency/workplace on his income taxes too. But is $4,000-$5,000 going to make up for a year of continental breakfasts, IF he spends that time in the Durham Express ... and if he's hanging out in BC, then he's not going to be able to shelter that income in NH, is he?

                Muckalt's penultimate game as a player at Michigan was their 4-0 demolition of UNH at the almost-new Fleet Center in April 1998. I found this today, and haven't seen it in 25+ years. Best part is the pre-game where they show Mowers lighting up BU in the Regionals, after that you are warned about how ugly it gets once the game starts. The first major red flag that Coach Umile might not be up to getting it done on the national stage. "Enjoy" ...
                 
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                Montreal Expos Forever ...

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                • Well, and to be clear, you would only do that if you knew he was the guy. I'd like to see a bit more of the other candidates, and you can't really have a national search 9 months ahead of time. :smiley: So I agree you'd be wrong to promise him the job now rather than wait for a full search in April.

                  The exciting thing is that regardless of which tier of candidates we fall into, there's such a low starting point that anything is an improvement. Unless they f up the one car parade, I can assure you that the Board's reaction will not be
                  Greg A
                  06-10-2015, 12:03 PM
                  I can't believe that this is true, that when the hiring of Souza is announced, it will also be announced that Umile will be retiring the year after next, to be replaced with someone with a record that is as thin as Souza's is. Mind you, I think Mike is a great guy, at least he was in all the interactions I had with him back when he was a player. And I do think he is an earnest, hard working, up-and-comer. But to think that he would be anointed the new coach would be mind boggling to me. It would lead me to ask Marty Scarano, what happened to the notion that you would only hire someone with Division 1 head coach experience? If Umile was going to designate someone as his successor, why wouldn't it be the man who has been his chief recruiter for the last 12 years rather than someone who is just establishing himself. Just doesn't make any sense.
                  The Souza record:
                  15-16 10th place
                  16-17 10th place
                  17-18 11th place
                  18-19 8th place
                  19-20 9th place
                  20-21 10th place
                  21-22 9th place
                  22-23 10th place

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                  • Watcher - no list. To be honest, I barely paid attention last season. Not sure how closely I'll follow UNH this year either. So my list pretty much remains the names you recalled earlier in the thread, but Mannino is climbing quickly. He won in the USHL, has been well regarded at CC in a short tenure and, most notably to me, he seemed to be very good in one season at Miami (Blasi's final year)...

                    He never got a chance to accomplish anything concrete in Oxford, because he and Blasi were relieved of duties after the following season (So less than a calendar year for Mannino at Miami).

                    Upon arrival, he hit the recruiting ground running and landed what seemed to be several top prospects - in a NCAA Watcher capitalize on your new car smell sense - but they all bailed when the coaching change was made and Miami continues to suffer. Who knows how it could have translated at Miami, but there's a pretty nice list of players who were coming to Miami/Mannino and ended up elsewhere (successfully)...

                    Bennett Schimek - Providence
                    Uula Ruikka - Providence / Augustana
                    Ty Gallagher - Boston U
                    Kienan Draper - Michigan
                    Brett Murray - Rochester Americans
                    John Prokop - Union
                    Ben Dexheimer - Wisconsin
                    Nick Desantis - Cornell
                    Ben Schoen - Penn State
                    Matthew Kessel - UMass

                    It was an entirely different level of recruiting than what Miami had operated on before his arrival (since Blashill) or has operated on sense.

                    Mannino is young and ambitious, I can't see him not taking the UNH job if offered next summer. What kind of on-ice/in the room 'coach' is he? I have no idea. The above article says he's a 'great teacher', etc...

                    If he did have success, than he's probably a win at UNH with an eye on moving to a P5 program or the pros, but so be it...
                    Last edited by Dan; 08-05-2023, 06:43 PM.
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                    Miami University '03

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                    • Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
                      Wait, they play hockey at levels above the college level? I'd seen some clips of a bunch of big guys filling up the ice so nobody can move, and then taking shots hoping for some fortunate bounces or deflections getting into the .01% of the net not covered by a michelin man. So most games are essentially random, and not decided by skill. Is that the game you speak of?
                      Although I have seen that they have a rule that after 60 minutes of randomness, they reward the fans who sat through the pinball game by removing a skater to create some actual space for skilled players, and there is a brief 5 minute where they showcase their players.
                      LOL so much of that is preaching to the choir with me, 'Watcher. Systems have too often choked the life and creativity out of the NHL game (and below too), but I don't think you can honestly lump McDavid in with that BS.

                      FWIW the two guys in question (trivia answers) predate some of those more current NHL trends.
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                      • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                        Useless NHL trivia while we slog through the summer in search of a fresh patch of ice somewhere ...

                        Connor McDavid has posted 3 consecutive 100 point seasons through the end of last season, and is looking to become the first NHL player since the following two Hall of Famers accomplished/extended their streaks to at least 4 straight seasons (in the same season) last century. Name them both (hint - neither of them were UNH alums)?
                        I'll go with Steve Yzerman and Brett Hull both had 100 points in the 1992-1993 season.

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                        • Originally posted by Robert Balin View Post

                          I'll go with Steve Yzerman and Brett Hull both had 100 points in the 1992-1993 season.
                          Winner right here. That season was actually Yzerman's 6th straight (and his final) 100 point season. Hull came up just three points short the following season of extending his streak to five seasons in a row. Yzerman would post 95 points in DRW's regular season '95/'96 juggernaut, a team which saw many of its RS records broken by last season's Bruins, and like the B's did not win the Cup (at least DRW made it to the West Finals).

                          NHL hockey was already in the midst of a seachange at that point, as 'Watcher so eloquently pointed out a few posts ago. Chief culprit at the time were the New Jersey Devils and their clog-the-neutral-zone approach that led them to some intermittent Cup successes, but ironically it was also Scotty Bowman's introduction of a more defensively responsible approach ("left wing lock") that transformed the Wings from the sad sack playoff chokers they had been (not quite as bad as current-day Toronto, but close), into what eventually turned into a 4 Cup run between 1997-2008. Most successful teams since the Devils' rise in the mid-'90's have been at least partially complicit in the mucking up of what used to be a free-flowing, attack minded league. Shame, but it is what it is. Happy Sunday, all.
                          Last edited by Chuck Murray; 08-06-2023, 10:08 AM.
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                          • When the skill level of NHLers is at an all-time high. There's just not enough space with 6'4 guys all over who can actually skate, and with the loose obstruction rules and the recent "finish your check from 30 yards away" after the guy has released the puck. If I wanted to have games decided by random pinballing of pucks rather than skill, I could watch

                            Blame Joel Otto for normalizing the 6'4 OK skater whose job it is to shut down Wayne Gretzky by wearing him down, vs. Steve Kasper shadowing him.
                            The Souza record:
                            15-16 10th place
                            16-17 10th place
                            17-18 11th place
                            18-19 8th place
                            19-20 9th place
                            20-21 10th place
                            21-22 9th place
                            22-23 10th place

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                            • Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
                              When the skill level of NHLers is at an all-time high. There's just not enough space with 6'4 guys all over who can actually skate, and with the loose obstruction rules and the recent "finish your check from 30 yards away" after the guy has released the puck. If I wanted to have games decided by random pinballing of pucks rather than skill, I could watch

                              Blame Joel Otto for normalizing the 6'4 OK skater whose job it is to shut down Wayne Gretzky by wearing him down, vs. Steve Kasper shadowing him.
                              Again, no dispute here 'Watcher. And when brand new NHL rinks are being built with the same old tried and true dimensions, despite the physics of the game progressing (faster and bigger skaters on the same-sized sheets as have been used since the demise of the smaller sheets at the old Boston Garden and Chicago Stadium), it just ensures that until some future generation of new arenas expands the facilities' capacity to reflect those changes, we're certainly not gonna see any retrofitting of arenas to eliminate the thousand or so seats closest to the ice surface. Look at The Whitt. A progressive-minded, forward-looking design, sacrificed to the whim of a flailing incompetent wannabe D-1 HC looking for excuses to save his legacy-hired position. And he's using the smaller sized dimensions of NHL arenas as his enabling crutch. Blecccchh. Just SO distasteful.

                              Watching that '98 UNH-Michigan game reminded me of just how many rules now used in the NHL got their start at the D-1 level. Nowadays it seems like there is more alignment between the two levels of play, and folks stopped thinking of other ways to advance the game. I'll spare you all my annual rant on raising the crossbar by 6"-12", but there are a crapload of things that should be done yesterday to improve the NHL game. Probably more like you than you dare think, but I'm varying between disappointment and annoyance at D-1 for retreating from being the leaders for good change to the game. That work has only really started, and has a long way to go. JMHO.
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                              Montreal Expos Forever ...

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                              • CDS to Montreal
                                I'm just here for the hockey...

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