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  • In looking at the HE predications, we all seem to see UNH as 10-11. It seems BC and BU are back to cream of the crop. NU, UConn and Providence have talent, and U.Mass looks to rebound after a year in which Carvel seemed to hate his team (and reset this off season, casting two promising freshmen aside). (NU, too, did a lot of shuffling, with Keefe not liking the kids he had, even though he recruited them.) They are a bit of a wild card.
    Lowell always looks bad on paper, but better on the ice.
    8-9 Has Maine moved enough to get out of 9-11 grouping and into that jumble for 5-8? And finally, was Merrimack a fluke, or, like Lowell, does Borek get more performance out of depth without top end talent?

    For UNH and Vermont, you could argue the talent is also maturing, but the coaches have no track record of success, so is it realistic to see them doing well enough, and at whose expense?

    As someone said a bit earlier, UNH still lacks a second line (and has a weaker top line), so scoring will be an issue unless Conmy and Ring can step in, and Sardarian makes a step up. In theory, you could see a decent team, if things break right and the Freshmen (and Muszelik) play well enough.

    Can you really expect Comney to get 15 points, or Ring to get 12 points as freshmen? If not, your third line of Cronin, Blaisdell Skraskins Winters will need to contribute offense, despite their track record.
    The first line looks to get 35-40 goals, third line 15-20, so where do the remaining 40 goals come from?
    Last edited by NCAA watcher; 07-28-2023, 11:29 AM.
    The Souza record:
    15-16 10th place
    16-17 10th place
    17-18 11th place
    18-19 8th place
    19-20 9th place
    20-21 10th place
    21-22 9th place
    22-23 10th place

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    • Originally posted by Dan View Post

      Conklin (Easily...)
      Regan (Dominant for some great teams)
      Desmith (Lifted some so-so teams to NCAA Tournament success and had good numbers - edges the others because of his limited supporting casts)

      Missed the cut: Ayers, Matile, Levy

      --

      Great forwards to choose from. Awesome goaltending. Defense a less standout group (and harder to parse) that could use a Rod Langway type but he's out of my range...

      So, where am I wrong? [/SIZE]
      Appreciate the post - great content. No arguments on the forward/defense selections and it was fun to check out the HockeyDB pages of the pre 99-00 players who were before my time. When it comes to goaltending though, I think Ayers has to slot in above Desmith. Ayers had better teams but was the G for the back to back HE tournament wins, really the only two prizes UNH has.

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      • Watcher, pardon me while I take a shot at your enjoyable annual line projections and goal speculation.

        1 Devlin - LeClerc - Conmy - 37 goals(and yes I have Conmy with 10)
        2 Sardarian - Winters - Cafarelli 22 goals. My fear is Conmy will start on the second line and thus stifle his goal production and growth. Cafarelli will get the first line nod. Please no. As for Winters, he is a grinder who can score, but can he dish to others?
        3 Siedem - Blaisdell - Skrastins 13 goals, may not happen for Siedem, at least early on, but let’s develop him now.
        4 Sweeney - Ring - Lovit 6 goals, Sweeney may never score (much) but his effort and special team work make him very valuable. Perhaps have him be the 21st player every game and use him as appropriate/necessary.

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        • My thinking is Leclerc and Devlin are shoot first kids, so adding another to the first line is sub optimal. Cafarelli is OK there, and a senior, which counts for something. Of course, depending on what happened to Cronin last year, he also could fit (I see you left him out of your projections)
          I want to see Sardarian, and whether he can be that set up guy, and if so, you have two decent lines. In theory, if Skaraskins steps up, that three scorers.

          I believe you come to about 80 goals. 10 more on D, and that's 90 in a 36 game season, 2.5 goals a game. That 2018-19 and 2019-20 levels, but better than the 76 and 74 goals of 2021-22 and 2022-23. That gets you in the 10-15 win category, depending on goals against, of course.
          The Souza record:
          15-16 10th place
          16-17 10th place
          17-18 11th place
          18-19 8th place
          19-20 9th place
          20-21 10th place
          21-22 9th place
          22-23 10th place

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          • Fair enough Watcher. You are correct, I didn’t know what to do with Dunlap! Strong freshmen year and not so much as a sophomore. I do strongly feel that the average kid is only as good as those he is paired with. Thought you would be all over
            the Winters pick. 4 goals on a UNH fourth line in 20 games ain’t bad. He will need to hold his emotions in check but could be a surprise.

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            • Can someone get me media credentials for Hockey East Media Day? I'd love to put together a list of really tough direct questions to the various HEA head coaches, and just see half of them squirm (and the other half quietly guffaw) when their "brothers" are faced with real questions, and not just softball questions with easily available pillow-fight answers. I think Coach Barr might be the second most entertained attendee (besides myself) after the hard Q's go to MS7, Luce and Coaches Leaman and Carvel. I reserve the right to go easy on Normie, and I'm meh on Borek and the new UVM guy, although a retrospect on UVM's historical catastrophes with off-the-ice incidents could be entertaining. Probably need the most help with the Boston trio, since none of 'em hold a candle to York, Parker or Madigan (maybe the answers are right there in the question itself)?

              Thoughts? Suggestions?? Do they do this in person these days, or is it just another Zoom safe space cop-out???
              Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
              Montreal Expos Forever ...

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              • Originally posted by After the Whistle View Post
                Fair enough Watcher. You are correct, I didn’t know what to do with Dunlap! Strong freshmen year and not so much as a sophomore. I do strongly feel that the average kid is only as good as those he is paired with. Thought you would be all over
                the Winters pick. 4 goals on a UNH fourth line in 20 games ain’t bad. He will need to hold his emotions in check but could be a surprise.
                Not sure what you mean; and maybe I'm delirious from the past few days, but, not sure who you are talking about since Jake has left the team? Loving this hockey talk...keep it coming...
                Here we go 'Cats!!

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                • Originally posted by HockeyRef View Post
                  Not sure what you mean; and maybe I'm delirious from the past few days, but, not sure who you are talking about since Jake has left the team? Loving this hockey talk...keep it coming...
                  Saw that too, assuming he confused Dunlap for Cronin?
                  Sworn Enemy of the Perpetually Offended
                  Montreal Expos Forever ...

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                  • Originally posted by Chuck Murray View Post
                    Can someone get me media credentials for Hockey East Media Day? I'd love to put together a list of really tough direct questions to the various HEA head coaches, and just see half of them squirm (and the other half quietly guffaw) when their "brothers" are faced with real questions, and not just softball questions with easily available pillow-fight answers. I think Coach Barr might be the second most entertained attendee (besides myself) after the hard Q's go to MS7, Luce and Coaches Leaman and Carvel. I reserve the right to go easy on Normie, and I'm meh on Borek and the new UVM guy, although a retrospect on UVM's historical catastrophes with off-the-ice incidents could be entertaining. Probably need the most help with the Boston trio, since none of 'em hold a candle to York, Parker or Madigan (maybe the answers are right there in the question itself)?

                    Thoughts? Suggestions?? Do they do this in person these days, or is it just another Zoom safe space cop-out???
                    Usually this event has been live and who MS7 brings is the usual Captain for the season...at least that seems to be the general gist.

                    Have coaches posted their predicts yet or are these here thoughts of Watcher? Prob not off the mark...
                    Here we go 'Cats!!

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                    • Sorry everyone, and certainly Mr. Cronin. It will be interesting to see how Jake does in the B10. He was a big loss, he could flat out fly.

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                      • Carfagna is the far bigger loss. He's be impact this year, and with Jenson and Luke Reid and perhaps Huard likely gone, would have been the #1 in 2024. Now we're back to piecing the D back together with Lindner and Reid Conn/Josh Player sorts.

                        Dunlap would have been a positive 3rd line offensive contributor, more certain than Winters.

                        Edit: Media day is usually mid September, so there's no polls beyond my thoughts. For perspective, I had the Sox at 75-87.
                        The Souza record:
                        15-16 10th place
                        16-17 10th place
                        17-18 11th place
                        18-19 8th place
                        19-20 9th place
                        20-21 10th place
                        21-22 9th place
                        22-23 10th place

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                        • Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
                          Carfagna is the far bigger loss. He's be impact this year, and with Jenson and Luke Reid and perhaps Huard likely gone, would have been the #1 in 2024. Now we're back to piecing the D back together with Lindner and Reid Conn/Josh Player sorts.

                          Dunlap would have been a positive 3rd line offensive contributor, more certain than Winters.

                          Edit: Media day is usually mid September, so there's no polls beyond my thoughts. For perspective, I had the Sox at 75-87.
                          Agree that Carfagna's loss is pretty huge, and it would've been great to have him, Chase and Dunlap stay of course. Hoping that Fitzgerald is a big hit on the D (no pun intended) but you make a point if Huard bolts.

                          But somehow? I am not so worried about him. He'd have to have a monster year, but, who knows. ATW, it's all good on your thoughts, that's who I was thinking
                          you were thinking about!
                          Last edited by HockeyRef; 07-29-2023, 01:06 PM.
                          Here we go 'Cats!!

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                          • Bipartisan snicker hopefully with this one ...

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                            • A couple of quick thoughts as we round the corner to August.
                              I love and appreciate our new AD and her active twitter postings. Like any good mother of 16 or whatever it is, she is on top of all her teams with comments and attendance. Shows some interest and involvement for sure.
                              But where are the communications from our hockey team. No announcement of the new class and just no building of awareness and excitement. The best foundation of a good development program is to build awareness and excitement. Communicate with your audience, why should they care? If you are going to need major donations for the improvements, when and how to you begin? Wait til you are 3 and 11!?

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                              • Originally posted by After the Whistle View Post
                                I love and appreciate our new AD and her active twitter postings.
                                I wont speak for everyone, but a good portion of people here have been hoping for a tweet for quite some time - a MEAN tweet - related to the hockey team. Hasnt happened, so that is why we STILL find ourselves in the same position, bottom of the Hockey East barrel. That "good mother" should have commented to one of her 16 that the gravy train was ending and the time to retire the Bluebird was close, because of the LACK of attendance.

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