RPI 2023 Off-season: We March Fourth Into the Off-season

[rpi82]

I think, and somebody correct me if I am wrong, once a player enters the portal, whatever scholarship they had ends and can be immediately offered to someone else. Of course, a player that enters the portal can come back; whether a scholarship is available is another matter.

Scholarships are actually year to year. Although it's not a good practice IMO, a coach can pull it at the end of any year. In the case of a kid entering the portal the scholarship is at least guaranteed through the end of the current semester but can be offered to other players (portal or freshman) for next season. On the other hand, if they think they have a chance to retain the kid, a coach could theoretically re-recruit him while holding off on awarding those scholarship dollars in case they are successful. I'd imagine that would be a fairly rare instance as I'm not aware of it happening outside of football, where there are a couple of thousand portal entrants per year.

[sezenack]

Two notes on Brushett:
1) He was injured as he’s undergoing off-season surgery.
2) The coach apparently wanted him back as they were awaiting his decision.

From a Lowell Sun post-season chat with the coach:
”He wasn’t sure about three other seniors, Brian Chambers, Jake Stella and Ryan Brushett, who’s about to undergo surgery.”

As for Regula, he seems like an ideal replacement for Klee (RH, defense-oriented). We still need at least one more d-man, preferably a young guy with multiple years of eligibility.

if by some miracle Ryan Mahshie decided to return I’d pick us for the top 4 right now (key note: I expect we are going to see something closer to freshman year Watson than the version we just saw). Unfortunately, I think once guys file they are gone. Are there any examples of guys that entered the portal at any Division 1 hockey program and then returned?

There's about 5-10 guys that happened to last year. It's not unheard of but it's very rare

[DavidNardolillo]

Scholarships are actually year to year. Although it's not a good practice IMO, a coach can pull it at the end of any year. In the case of a kid entering the portal the scholarship is at least guaranteed through the end of the current semester but can be offered to other players (portal or freshman) for next season. On the other hand, if they think they have a chance to retain the kid, a coach could theoretically re-recruit him while holding off on awarding those scholarship dollars in case they are successful. I'd imagine that would be a fairly rare instance as I'm not aware of it happening outside of football, where there are a couple of thousand portal entrants per year.

They can be year to year, except for Power 5 schools (which includes the Big10 hockey schools and BC) agreed on a rule which forbids pulling a scholarship for poor athletic performance. And other schools are allowed to match multi-year offers--which might happen if you are recruiting someone who has options in the Big 10. Plus, if you transfer in your original 4 year window, the school that takes you needs to honor your scholarship until graduation unless the player enters the portal again.

[Ralph Baer]

Today is 3 April 2023. There are 187 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 7 October 2023 for the start of next season.

[Ralph Baer]

From his OSU page - Son of Chet, an orthodontist, and Nicole, a headhunter

It was probably a very good thing to have an orthodontist as a father when any of us were young hockey players! Would have loved to chat with his mom - always wanted to know how they shrunk those things down. (it is the off season for us and I am already bored)

I would think that a headhunter would spend a lot of time in the penalty box, or he would be ejected and someone would serve the penalties. :-D

[Wicked Slappaahs]

From his OSU page - Son of Chet, an orthodontist, and Nicole, a headhunter

It was probably a very good thing to have an orthodontist as a father when any of us were young hockey players! Would have loved to chat with his mom - always wanted to know how they shrunk those things down. (it is the off season for us and I am already bored)

Ha ha...Doc, would it be fair to assume that Bob Probert likely paid a fair share of the young family' bills back in Detroit ?

[sezenack]

From his OSU page - Son of Chet, an orthodontist, and Nicole, a headhunter

It was probably a very good thing to have an orthodontist as a father when any of us were young hockey players! Would have loved to chat with his mom - always wanted to know how they shrunk those things down. (it is the off season for us and I am already bored)

DrD, you will really like him. 6'3 and 205 LBs!

[Ralph Baer]

DrD, you will really like him. 6'3 and 205 LBs!

Too bad we can't get his brother too. I said the same thing about Ray Tonelli in the 1970's. :-)

[Wicked Slappaahs]

Credit goes to Iowabasedtraveler ( a great guy) on the Colgate thread for finding info on what schools are investing in their program. Even if mot 100% accurate I'd be willing to be it isn't far off.
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[QUOTE=iowabasedtraveler;n3803193]From the 'More Questions than it Answers' Department...

Josh Hewitt on the Big Ten Hockey Facebook page posted a graphic of expenditures of NCAA D-1 MIH programs.

Here are a couple...

1., North Dakota, $5,453,864,
2., Minnesota, $5,269,203,
3., Notre Dame, $5,198,263
4., Michigan, $4,464,256,
5., Boston College, $4,360,627,

21., Quinnipiac, $3,029,101,
23., Clarkson, $2,630,662,
25., RPI, $2,563,477,
27., Saint Lawrence, $2,547,264,
31., Colgate, $2,423,063,
38., Yale, $2,073,478,
41., Cornell, $1,990,819,
51., Harvard, $1,374,610,
52., Brown, $1,363,881,
53., Dartmouth, $1,353,890,
56., Princeton, $1,133,425,
57., Union, $1,049,322.

From me, "I see 57 programs listed. What was the last year that NCAA had 57 men's D-1 ice hockey programs? If it is more current than that, what programs are not included (and why)? More specifically, what year does it supposedly represent? And what exactly goes into those numbers? Thanks."

From Josh, "It’s all the schools that have the records for expenses for the Men’s hockey program available and includes all expenditures for the program. Salaries, rink maintenance, travel, etc….
GopherPuckLive periodically puts together an article to compare where Minnesota is compared to the rest of college hockey. Here is an article from 2018 as an example with additional info."

"https://gopherpucklive.com/minnesota-ranks-second-for.../

"The data I posted above is for this season. I don’t know if he is going to put together an article with further breakdown or not, but you should probably be able to find the data for your program in public records."

While I still question a lot about the specifics of this ranking, it probably does fairly accurately show the basic differences between the expenditures of the Big Ten (and other) conference programs and those of the ECAC Hockey conference.

[ambersuds]

Credit goes to Iowabasedtraveler ( a great guy) on the Colgate thread for finding info on what schools are investing in their program. Even if mot 100% accurate I'd be willing to be it isn't far off.

Data is plotted here...
https://twitter.com/CMasenas/status/...966657/photo/1

[DrDemento]

DrD, you will really like him. 6'3 and 205 LBs!

Saw the listing with his size. I do like that very much. As i go down the list of recruits that RB has posted and kept up incredibly well, we do not look like we have a pipeline of very large boys coming (but some of the postings are for boys who still have a year or two to get a bit bigger). Not at all saying that size is the only requirement because many smaller kids can achieve great success at the NCAA level. But over the years, the average height and weight has become obviously larger and given equal skill levels I think that size offers a considerable advantage especially on defense.

[DrDemento]

I would think that a headhunter would spend a lot of time in the penalty box, or he would be ejected and someone would serve the penalties. :-D

How many Jivaro tribe members can you name who have played Division I hockey?

[DrDemento]

Ha ha...Doc, would it be fair to assume that Bob Probert likely paid a fair share of the young family' bills back in Detroit ?

Probably will take a lot of flack for this but I miss the days of the enforcers and old time hockey. As kids we always knew all the names of the top scorers but we also knew who the top fighters were for each team. Surprisingly, more of the names appeared on both lists than many would have thought.

[Ralph Baer]

Today is 4 April 2023. There are 186 days until RPI's next game.


This is based upon 7 October 2023 for the start of next season.

[Ralph Baer]

Missed this yesterday. Ryan Mahshie committed to UConn. https://twitter.com/RTM_8_/status/1642926867387756545

Should I be concerned that RPI commit Easton Adrian retweeted this? He and commit Dylan Lariviere liked it as did numerous formerly players as well as Sezenack. :-D ;-)