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National championships won by Big Ten schools : 23 (Michigan 9, Wisconsin 6, Minnesota 5, Michigan State 3, Ohio State 0, Penn State 0, Notre Dame 0)
National championships won by NCHC schools : 21 (North Dakota 8, Denver 8, MN-Duluth 3, Colorado College 2, St. Cloud State 0, Miami 0, NE-Omaha 0, Western Michigan 0)
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Originally posted by Speed Kills View Post
Based on their pairwise position, Fargo seems like the most logical destination for Harvard. Can't have 1 and 8 together because Penn State has to be in Allentown, so putting 1 and 7 together is the next best thing.
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Originally posted by Skate79 View Post
No kidding. I doubt the committee will send us to Fargo given our pairwise and the need to minimize travel and maximize attendance. Cue those who want to bash Harvard's ability to travel.
Who says they need to minimize travel/maximize attendance? It hasn't seemed to come into play a whole lot recently. I would be on board with a clear direction from the committee.
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Originally posted by RENCEB View PostYou always have to use the plural of "fan", even if it is only slightly more than 1.Quinnipiac Bobcats
2023 National Champions
ECAC Regular Season Champions: 2012-13, 2014-15, 2015-16, 2018-19, 2020-21, 2021-22, 2022-23, 2023-24
ECAC Tournament Champions: 2016
East Regional: 2013 (Champions), 2014, 2016 (Champions), 2023 (Champions), 2024
Northeast Regional:
West Regional: 2015, 2021
Midwest Regional: 2019, 2022
Frozen Four: 2013, 2016, 2023 (Champions)
Pass complete. Lipkin has a man in front! Shot... SCORE!!!
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As anticipated...
Fargo
1. Minnesota vs. 16. Canisius
6. St. Cloud State vs. 11. Minnesota State
Bridgeport
2. Quinnipiac vs. 14. Merrimack
7. Harvard vs. 9. Ohio State
Allentown
3. Michigan vs. 15. Colgate
8. Penn State vs. 10. Michigan Tech
Manchester
4. Denver vs. 13. Cornell
5. Boston University vs. 12. Western MichiganNorth Dakota
National Champions: 1959, 1963, 1980, 1982, 1987, 1997, 2000, 2016
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Putting St. Cloud with Minnesota is not my definition of bracket integrity but ultimately I am fine if there's a consistent emphasis to try and improve the atmosphere at these things. For once there doesn't appear to be a dumpster fire regional attendance/atmosphere wise.
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Originally posted by davyd83 View PostBut when you consider that I can sit and have a burger at Charlie’s on the Harvard campus and then be in Manchester in an hour or Bridgeport in less than 2 1/2, Harvard would likely draw far greater crowds in either venue than St Cloud would. Manchester is also accessible from Harvard by public transportation.
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Originally posted by StateofHockey78 View Post
I don't really care what the committee does placing teams, but I dislike how inconsistent it is from one year to the next. Frankly, I was laughing when the board chair from Vermont said how pleased they were with a balanced bracket. I guess if the goal was balanced geography, yes they did great. Enjoy the burger, I have a feeling it will be your last while watching Harvard play hockey this year.
The inconsistency is because they have so many "priorities" that they can manipulate the results almost any way they want them. You can spout "bracket integrity" to defend one decision, and then turn around and say "atmosphere" or "airline flights" for another. And all the while, you let teams host who aren't #1 seeds so you work around the brackets to justify that. Give basketball credit - They are going with a serpentine bracket every year (Now, how they determine those seeds is a little shady, but that's another story.), and they generally don't give a de facto home game to a low seed (Drake, for instance, had to go out east as a #12 seed this year, even though Des Moines was a regional site.).
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostPutting St. Cloud with Minnesota is not my definition of bracket integrity but ultimately I am fine if there's a consistent emphasis to try and improve the atmosphere at these things. For once there doesn't appear to be a dumpster fire regional attendance/atmosphere wise.
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Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
The inconsistency is because they have so many "priorities" that they can manipulate the results almost any way they want them. You can spout "bracket integrity" to defend one decision, and then turn around and say "atmosphere" or "airline flights" for another. And all the while, you let teams host who aren't #1 seeds so you work around the brackets to justify that. Give basketball credit - They are going with a serpentine bracket every year (Now, how they determine those seeds is a little shady, but that's another story.), and they generally don't give a de facto home game to a low seed (Drake, for instance, had to go out east as a #12 seed this year, even though Des Moines was a regional site.).
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Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
I don't know that there was a need to improve the atmosphere at Fargo after the Gophers were placed there. Fargo only seats about 6000. It was going to be full or near-full even without adding St. Cloud and Kato.
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Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View PostI don't know that there was a need to improve the atmosphere at Fargo after the Gophers were placed there. Fargo only seats about 6000. It was going to be full or near-full even without adding St. Cloud and Kato.
Minnesota (1)
Harvard(7)
Minnesota State (11)
Canisius
Quinnipiac (2)
St. Cloud State (6)
Ohio State (9)
Merrimack
I could have lived with this if you wanted to get another Minnesota team to Fargo.
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