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Originally posted by Numbers View PostCHN has now changed their Pairwise Probability Matrix, and it reflects the possibility of both Minn and Quinn getting the overall #1. I still find it quite informative.Originally posted by West Texas Wolverine
wT, your wisdom is as boundless as the volume of your cheering.
Arenas visited:
7 B1G
7 CCHA (all except St Thomas)
6 NCH (UNO, NoDak, DU, Miami, SCSU, WMU)
5 Hockey East (BU, BC, UNH, Lowell, Vermont)
5 ECAC (RPI, Union, Dartmouth, St. Lawrence, Clarkson)
2 AHA (Mercyhurst, RIT)
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Originally posted by J.D. View PostI just wanted to point out that 4 coaches who lost in OT challenged the GWG on plays where there was very clearly nothing to look at. 3 offsides and one goalie interference challenge. Come on guys. Be better.National championships won by Big Ten schools : 23 (Michigan 9, Wisconsin 6, Minnesota 5, Michigan State 3, Ohio State 0, Penn State 0, Notre Dame 0)
National championships won by NCHC schools : 21 (North Dakota 8, Denver 8, MN-Duluth 3, Colorado College 2, St. Cloud State 0, Miami 0, NE-Omaha 0, Western Michigan 0)
23 > 21
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Originally posted by Speed Kills View Post
I mean, first and foremost you're not wrong. But to be fair though, at that point there's really nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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Originally posted by J.D. View Post
I get that but when there's so clearly nothing wrong with any of the plays it's just a bad look IMO. Takes away from the moment of an OT winner too. I'm also tired of coaches challenging any hit that has the chance of having the slightest head contact because they don't care if they lose their timeout. I'd like to see the challenge system cleaned up a little. But now back to PWR discussion...
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6 teams facing win or go home games tonight (Holy Cross, Canisius, Northern Michigan, Minnesota State, Colgate, and Colorado College), including both teams in the Atlantic Hockey and CCHA Championships. Remarkably, despite that, Alaska still has a better than 50/50 shot at making the tournament as an at-large. Should be a fun night of college hockey!
As for the NCAA Tournament, it would appear that Fargo is likely set:
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Holy Cross/Canisius Winner
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Ohio State
The rest of the bracket could get a bit messy depending on how the seeding all shakes out. Obviously, Penn State is in Allentown. Quinnipiac likely gets placed in Bridgeport. Denver won't make a difference (attendance wise - and a flight regardless), so they can go anywhere. If Michigan gets the last #1, does it make more sense to put them in Manchester? I'd prefer that to keep fewer potential intra-conference regional final possibilities (and no need to stack all 4 B1G teams into two regionals). I would think they would like to place BU and/or Harvard in Manchester (and if not possible, then one or the other to Bridgeport). Either Michigan Tech or Western Michigan are decent options to slot against Penn State in Allentown if either wind up as the #10 overall seed.
Of course, they could also just go pure serpentine...North Dakota
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In case you're wondering, Colorado College could become the 7th team to be seeded #7 or lower in their conference tournament and win the title. The previous six:
ECAC 1980 #8 Cornell
ECAC 1981 #7 Providence
ECAC 1998 #7 Princeton
CCHA 2010 #7 Michigan
AHA 2013 #7 Canisius
ECAC 2018 #7 Princeton
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For qualification purposes, not seeding:
Everyone down to and including Michigan Tech and Western Michigan is in.
Canisius v Holy Cross: Winner in, loser goes home
Minnesota State v Northern Michigan: Winner in, loser goes home
Colgate must win to qualify
Colorado College must win to qualify
If either Colgate or CC win, Alaska is out
If both win, then either Merrimack or Cornell is out, and which one is out depends on the Merrimack/BU game. In this case, Merrimack would need to win to be in.
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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post6 teams facing win or go home games tonight (Holy Cross, Canisius, Northern Michigan, Minnesota State, Colgate, and Colorado College), including both teams in the Atlantic Hockey and CCHA Championships. Remarkably, despite that, Alaska still has a better than 50/50 shot at making the tournament as an at-large. Should be a fun night of college hockey!
As for the NCAA Tournament, it would appear that Fargo is likely set:
1. Minnesota vs. 4. Holy Cross/Canisius Winner
2. St. Cloud State vs. 3. Ohio State
The rest of the bracket could get a bit messy depending on how the seeding all shakes out. Obviously, Penn State is in Allentown. Quinnipiac likely gets placed in Bridgeport. Denver won't make a difference (attendance wise - and a flight regardless), so they can go anywhere. If Michigan gets the last #1, does it make more sense to put them in Manchester? I'd prefer that to keep fewer potential intra-conference regional final possibilities (and no need to stack all 4 B1G teams into two regionals). I would think they would like to place BU and/or Harvard in Manchester (and if not possible, then one or the other to Bridgeport). Either Michigan Tech or Western Michigan are decent options to slot against Penn State in Allentown if either wind up as the #10 overall seed.
Of course, they could also just go pure serpentine...
That means that the #4 and #5 overall go to Manchester. That means either Mich or Den, and either BU or Harvard.
So, for the top half of the bracket:
Fargo: Minnesota, St Cloud St
Bridgeport: Quinnipiac, #6 overall (Harvard or BU)
Allentown: #3 overall (DU, Michigan), Penn State
Manchester: #4, 5 overall: (Michigan, DU), (Harvard, BU)
As for the rest, as FS23 said, Ohio State goes to Fargo, and after that we don't know anything, chiefly because, for example, Minnesota State is either a #3 seed, or out of the tournament. Merrimack is either a 3, or a 4, or out. Perhaps as good as we can say is that Cornell and Merrimack, if they qualify, will stay in either Bridgeport or Manchester (although Ithaca, NY is within bussing distance from Allentown, too). And, likewise Colgate, should they defeat Harvard. The winner of Holy Cross/Canisius gets a flight to Fargo.
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Originally posted by John J. MacInnes View PostIn case you're wondering, Colorado College could become the 7th team to be seeded #7 or lower in their conference tournament and win the title. The previous six:
ECAC 1980 #8 Cornell
ECAC 1981 #7 Providence
ECAC 1998 #7 Princeton
CCHA 2010 #7 Michigan
AHA 2013 #7 Canisius
ECAC 2018 #7 Princeton
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Originally posted by BC/HE View Post
Holy Cross is also a 7 seed so with their game being first tonight it would mean CC could become the 8th team. Minnesota fans will love to be reminded of playing Holy Cross in North Dakota.
2013 AHA #7 Canisius WON, ECAC #7 Brown lost, WCHA #8 Colorado College lost
2014 NCHC #8 Miami lost, AHA #7 Canisius lost
2018 ECAC #7 Princeton WON, AHA #7 Robert Morris lost
Last edited by John J. MacInnes; 03-18-2023, 02:36 PM.
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