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  • Dam if I know. The best of three was better IMHO.
    COLGATE HOCKEY:"Is this the year?"

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    • Attendance is usually pretty bad at these first round games. Maybe that went into the decision to make it one game.

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      • I wonder why our game is on Friday while the other games are on Saturday.

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        • Magoo… did it have anything to do with a possibility of women hosting games? I don’t follow them enough to know how Yale became this weekend’s host site.

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          • Yale finished 1st in the Women’s ECAC so I assume that’s why they’re hosting the tournament.

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            • Were the men planning on getting a bye and the women planning on finishing first, thus last-minute scrambling? he he he

              Either way, I have my Dartmouth ticket, my Saint Lawrence tickets and my Lake Placid tickets. Bring ‘em on!!

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              • Originally posted by Magoo View Post
                Yale finished 1st in the Women’s ECAC so I assume that’s why they’re hosting the tournament.
                That's exactly why Yale is hosting, they had one more point than us. I have been running scenarios on the Pairwise Predictor this am. It's on a thread here. Fun !

                Even with a loss to Q-Pac Friday I still can't find a scenario where we finish worse than #4 seed (home ice). Try it !
                It all starts with the goaltending.

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                • The Pairwise Predictor is a thread on the D1 Womens Fan Forum.
                  It all starts with the goaltending.

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                  • Originally posted by iowabasedtraveler View Post
                    Thanks, RPIfan.

                    So has anyone definitively figured out why the first-round games are one-n-done and not the usual best-of-three? Normally one can follow the money trail, but that (saving on travel expenses?) doesn’t seem like a good enough reason in this case (lost ticket revenue for host sites). Thanks.
                    The great Ken Schott at the Daily Gazette did the most thorough reporting at the time regarding the change. His podcast -- link below -- he interviewed Hauge, Cashman, Donato and Hagwell about it. All of the coaches expressed surprise/dismay. Short answer is the coaches were seemingly blindsided and according to Hagwell, the coaches were "overwhelmingly in favor" of retaining the 3 game format. So draw your own conclusions...but Hagwell mentions money, travel reimbursements etc...

                    https://dailygazette.com/2022/11/17/...hool-football/
                    ""Ralph is the Chuck Norris of this board. Ralph doesnt sleep he just waits." - fishcore12

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                    • I did some number crunching recently.

                      Even though we went 14-15-5 in the regular season, we were 7-4 in "decisive games", and 7-11-5 in "close games". A close game is defined as a game decided by 1 goal, or a 2-goal margin of victory if a late empty net goal is scored by the winning team.

                      8 of our 15 losses were 1 goal losses.

                      Each of our 4 "decisive losses" were early in the season - the last such "decisive loss" was a 4-0 loss at Clarkson on November 11. At that point in the season, we were 3-7-1. Since then, we've gone 11-8-4 with every loss being a game that was still in doubt late in the 3rd period.

                      The law of averages says that a team's record in close games will even out at around .500 - this happened in the 2010-11 season where we were losing so many close games then started winning them later on in the season, eventually upsetting RPI and Union in the playoffs.

                      Oh yeah, and that 2nd period empty net goal we gave up against Union? Take that away and we'd have a bye. Ughhhhhhh.
                      Colgate '09

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                      • Originally posted by Wicked Slappaahs View Post

                        The great Ken Schott at the Daily Gazette did the most thorough reporting at the time regarding the change. His podcast -- link below -- he interviewed Hauge, Cashman, Donato and Hagwell about it. All of the coaches expressed surprise/dismay. Short answer is the coaches were seemingly blindsided and according to Hagwell, the coaches were "overwhelmingly in favor" of retaining the 3 game format. So draw your own conclusions...but Hagwell mentions money, travel reimbursements etc...

                        https://dailygazette.com/2022/11/17/...hool-football/
                        As for changing the playoff format, the decision was made by the AD's/Administrators at each school - obviously a disconnect between coaches and administrators, since the coaches wanted to keep the current playoff format. As for when this weekends games are being played, it was left up to the head coach of the home team to determine the day and time of their game.
                        I've been lost since 1989. I got a breakaway on a frozen pond and have been skating ever since.

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                        • I’ll be at the game this weekend but never more disappointed to be at a colgate hockey game (maybe since I was a 5-6 year old knowing nothing about hockey but got dragged to the Syracuse Invitational tournament). Now I wish they’d bring that back


                          we should have easily gotten the bye

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                          • Thanks Wicked and PondSkater.

                            I now wonder what it takes to open the doors at the Class of 1965 Arena for one night. When I was at Knoxville (Iowa) Raceway, with its 20k permanent seats, it took 2,200 fans at $15 apiece to break even for a one-night show of sprint car racing. What does it take at a 2,200-seat arena at $17 apiece for one night of ECAC Hockey?

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                            • Originally posted by iowabasedtraveler View Post
                              Thanks Wicked and PondSkater.

                              I now wonder what it takes to open the doors at the Class of 1965 Arena for one night. When I was at Knoxville (Iowa) Raceway, with its 20k permanent seats, it took 2,200 fans at $15 apiece to break even for a one-night show of sprint car racing. What does it take at a 2,200-seat arena at $17 apiece for one night of ECAC Hockey?
                              Based on what the school has to pay back to the ECAC for the one playoff game, 883 fans Iowa.
                              I've been lost since 1989. I got a breakaway on a frozen pond and have been skating ever since.

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                              • Originally posted by TchrBill View Post
                                Was wondering the same about Serdachny; what a dream that would be.
                                Her, Odonohoe, Simpson and Bard will all return. Not to jump the men's thread with women's stuff but the question was here.

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