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  • Originally posted by Patman View Post

    cross check to the back of the head. Getting off lucky there, IMO. Just did a quick review of the game.
    I didn't see the play. I wonder if the league will look at it. The team has taken some bad penalties lately. Nice come from behind win tonight. Hopefully Meehan is available for the UMA game on Friday.

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    • Originally posted by boblav1 View Post

      I didn't see the play. I wonder if the league will look at it. The team has taken some bad penalties lately. Nice come from behind win tonight. Hopefully Meehan is available for the UMA game on Friday.
      it was clear Meehan was ****ed with his target. I won't get into justification. I'm willing to believe it was deserved
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      • Good weekend for Lowell overall. Would have been better with 6 points, but I'll take the 5 (especially against the last place team).

        Also this afternoon, the basketball team won their 17th game of the year (a new DI record) crushing preseason #2 Bryant, and now leads the AE standings at 5-2. They've already beaten preseason #1 UVM (both at home). Lowell was up 26 at the half in this one. Women's basketball won their first AE game of the year today as well.
        Last edited by UMLFan; 01-23-2023, 08:49 AM.
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        • That was a great crowd Friday and a nice tribute to Tony Patronick. The crowd gave him a well deserved standing ovation. I did not know him
          personally but always enjoyed when he posted commentary here, especially when he would get into flame wars with Jcarter and the UVM fanbase. May he rest in peace!

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          • Originally posted by Middle Street View Post
            That was a great crowd Friday and a nice tribute to Tony Patronick. The crowd gave him a well deserved standing ovation. I did not know him
            personally but always enjoyed when he posted commentary here, especially when he would get into flame wars with Jcarter and the UVM fanbase. May he rest in peace!
            I mentioned that to his wife as well, that the tribute was very well done. It made my night to see the standing ovation for him.
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            • Originally posted by UMLFan View Post
              Good weekend for Lowell overall. Would have been better with 6 points, but I'll take the 5 (especially against the last place team).

              Also this afternoon, the basketball team won their 17th game of the year (a new DI record) crushing preseason #2 Bryant, and now leads the AE standings at 5-2. They've already beaten preseason #1 UVM (both at home). Lowell was up 26 at the half in this one. Women's basketball won their first AE game of the year today as well.
              The game against Bryant was also a sellout, which was the first as a D1 school. Lowell is getting a lot of talk in the mid-major universe, especially as a team many of the 1-4 seeds in March Madness would not want to play. That might be a bit much, but it's good to see the program progressing year over year.

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              • Originally posted by UMLFan View Post
                I mentioned that to his wife as well, that the tribute was very well done. It made my night to see the standing ovation for him.
                The tribute was perfectly done. My mom was very happy with how it all turned out. She never got to see the side of Tony at hockey games; the standing ovation really touched her. I can't thank the university or the hockey program enough for showing support from his funeral to the tribute.

                However, as I said on FB, we'll never forget the Northeastern game when he bailed and Lowell came storming back and won in OT.

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                • Originally posted by Middle Street View Post
                  Totally agree on the recruiting. I think coaching deserves some blame too. The offense has been an issue for years now. Players come in as Freshman and sometimes surprise us, then later regress. Matt Crasa had 21 pts last season. He has only 6 now. Reid Stefanson is another that comes to mind. He has 20 pts as a Freshman, then never developed to score more than 15.

                  The transfer forwards are both disappointments, 25+ points last season and both project to score 12 or less on this team.

                  Is it really all talent or is there a system issue too?
                  I am not going to name names. But, I did speak to someone whose son played for Bazin, and transferred to another school. This person said he loved playing here, loved his teammates, but the system didn’t play to his strengths and transferred. This person kept alluding to playing back, vs playing forward.

                  take this however you think, but I found this to be interesting.
                  "We will play a style that is a puck-possession game, an up-tempo style ... It will rely on speed and toughness. I’m sure these players can
                  make that adjustment very easily. We’re going to make the Tsongas a tough place to get points for other teams." -UML Coach Norm Bazin

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                  • Originally posted by hawkeytown View Post

                    I am not going to name names. But, I did speak to someone whose son played for Bazin, and transferred to another school. This person said he loved playing here, loved his teammates, but the system didn’t play to his strengths and transferred. This person kept alluding to playing back, vs playing forward.

                    take this however you think, but I found this to be interesting.
                    That makes sense. The system may not be attractive to some (offensive minded) recruits.

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                    • Originally posted by bottomdweller View Post

                      The game against Bryant was also a sellout, which was the first as a D1 school. Lowell is getting a lot of talk in the mid-major universe, especially as a team many of the 1-4 seeds in March Madness would not want to play. That might be a bit much, but it's good to see the program progressing year over year.
                      Something special is happening with UMass Lowell men’s basketball (msn.com)

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                      • Originally posted by boblav1 View Post

                        That makes sense. The system may not be attractive to some (offensive minded) recruits.
                        Yeah but its not like we're as defensively tight. You still need the offensive players to carry the counterattack. Its probably hard to convince players that the defense drives the offense. On the other hand we don't counter attack the way we used to? Is that manpower?

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                        basketball

                        IIRC, I'd have to look at the roster, but its senior laden so carryover would be difficult. However any time you can the fresh new thing I think it will help out down the longer haul. Proximity to boston probably helps. Small major basketball is what it always is, could have a great regular season but you gotta win your tournament. If its a well-disciplined team then, yes, could give some teams fits and we'll be the "****" pick regardless. First of all I like being ****. Second of all I like being ****. I don't know enough basketball to say anything terribly intelligent. They've dropped a couple of questionable games but so does everybody.

                        Like anything else, up to the magical ball of chance. I don't know what their new ranking system has them at but Lowell seems to be in the 160-170 range with computers. Looking like a 14-15 seed right now. It would be nice to come in higher than the joke seed who has to win a playin game. That won't happen this year unless they bottom out right now.

                        edit: the **** is for the saxophone word. Oh baby.

                        edit: AE being "midmajor" is a joke. Usually the worst conference that isn't an HBCU conference. Sorry.

                        edit: last edit, apparently not that bad, some things have changed. usually its the HBCUs at the bottom and the NEC AE trade off between each other.
                        Last edited by Patman; 01-24-2023, 01:06 AM.
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                        • Look at this and Lowell's NET is higher than the computers it seems.

                          https://www.cbssports.com/college-ba.../bracketology/

                          Now drill down. What's going to happen is we sit right now on the 15/16 line but right now most of these plug in the top team in the conference. Some buzzards will lose and push us up, if we make it in, a bit higher. Just a matter of how many buzzards. Enough buzzards and we slip up to 14. Here's an idea of general conference strength. It doesn't reflect the top team but usually an average of some type.

                          https://masseyratings.com/cb/ncaa-d1/ratings?c=1

                          Just giving the landscape for those who don't venture in these waters. I'm not going to claim aptitude. just an overactive sports fans like the rest of you guys.
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                          • Originally posted by boblav1 View Post

                            That makes sense. The system may not be attractive to some (offensive minded) recruits.
                            What frustrated the player, and parents, was Lowell knew the player they were getting, knew his style of play, his abilities on ice, etc. To not use the players strengths, to the player and parent’s opinion, caused frustration and willingness to leave.

                            From my standpoint, I think losing Juliano Pagliero to Penn State hurt our recruiting, in some ways. IIRC, he got some talent to Lowell.
                            Last edited by hawkeytown; 01-24-2023, 07:09 AM.
                            "We will play a style that is a puck-possession game, an up-tempo style ... It will rely on speed and toughness. I’m sure these players can
                            make that adjustment very easily. We’re going to make the Tsongas a tough place to get points for other teams." -UML Coach Norm Bazin

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                            • Originally posted by boblav1 View Post

                              That makes sense. The system may not be attractive to some (offensive minded) recruits.
                              And let's be honest, you can't blame them. The Truman brothers probably fit into that "offensive minded" grouping, and have played a combined 22 games (all Scout). They wanted to play together and committed here partly for that reason. Would you be surprised if they were looking to transfer out in three or so months? We played three freshmen the other night, which also won't help recruits as they look at potential playing time. And without knowing, I'd wonder if that's Matt Brown that is being talked about?
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                              • Originally posted by UMLFan View Post
                                . And without knowing, I'd wonder if that's Matt Brown that is being talked about?
                                I don’t feel comfortable saying who it was, as his dad was so open to speaking about it. Literally spoke to me for a solid 15 min before puck drop. But, use your imagination and I am sure you will get it (smile)

                                he mentioned that Bazin was the toughest coach he had ever had
                                Last edited by hawkeytown; 01-24-2023, 07:55 AM.
                                "We will play a style that is a puck-possession game, an up-tempo style ... It will rely on speed and toughness. I’m sure these players can
                                make that adjustment very easily. We’re going to make the Tsongas a tough place to get points for other teams." -UML Coach Norm Bazin

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