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  • Originally posted by WiscTJK View Post

    I say he lost on recruiting due to super poor assistant coach hires. That's what did him in.....
    Absolutely. If he made the right hires he would have likely retired as Badger HC.
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    "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

    "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

    Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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    • Originally posted by WiscTJK View Post
      I say he lost on recruiting due to super poor assistant coach hires. That's what did him in.....
      His last set of assistants were very good (Strand and Bitner), but the die was cast by that time with the lack of talent on the roster.
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      "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
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      • Originally posted by digitalbooya View Post
        Paul Chryst has been fired. Way less leniency for football I guess.
        Obviously my opinion, but I don't think Mac wanted to pull the plug on Granato when he was only the A.D. for less than a year. IF he had a year and a half under his belt (as he does now), Granato would've gotten whacked.

        I'll be honest, I didn't even know the UW club hockey team had a game yesterday. \_(ツ)_/
        "Show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser." Vince Lombardi

        "License to kill gophers by the government of the United Nations. Man; free to kill gophers at will. To kill, you must know your enemy, and in this case, my enemy is a varmint....and a varmint will never quit...ever. They're like Viet Cong...Varmint Cong, so you have to fall back on superior intelligence and superior firepower...and that's all she wrote. Au revoir, gopher." Karl Spackler 1980

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        • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post

          His last set of assistants were very good (Strand and Bitner), but the die was cast by that time with the lack of talent on the roster.
          Absolutely. Too little too late unfortunately. Strand is now back with Bitner at Ohio State.
          gwhinwi's: Wisconsin Badgers Recruiting Spreadsheet & Individual Face-Off Statistics

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          • I forgot to post this tidbit: https://twitter.com/ToddMilewski/sta...32079906996225

            Hopefully, they locked him up at the Kohl Center and didn't let him leave......
            Last edited by WiscTJK; 10-04-2022, 01:34 PM.
            gwhinwi's: Wisconsin Badgers Recruiting Spreadsheet & Individual Face-Off Statistics

            EODS: De-Commit / Non-Pro Early Departure List

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            • For a reference point, MI Tech beat Lakeland 6-0, outshot them 47-15.

              CHN has the WI recruiting class ranked 6th.
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              Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
              "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
              Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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              • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                For a reference point, MI Tech beat Lakeland 6-0, outshot them 47-15.

                CHN has the WI recruiting class ranked 6th.
                That's a perfect reference point and probably not a good sign for at least the opening weeks. The Badgers will need to improve quickly to not get in a huge hole with the tough opening schedule.
                gwhinwi's: Wisconsin Badgers Recruiting Spreadsheet & Individual Face-Off Statistics

                EODS: De-Commit / Non-Pro Early Departure List

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                • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post
                  For a reference point, MI Tech beat Lakeland 6-0, outshot them 47-15.

                  CHN has the WI recruiting class ranked 6th.
                  Yep. If Wisconsin was well coached with good players, they would have clocked Lakeland 12-2 and put up 60 sog.

                  this is going to be a nightmare year.

                  on the upside I’m not going to one game nor buying Btn+ to watch this dumpster fire.
                  Last edited by solovsfett; 10-04-2022, 07:20 PM.
                  Everything in its right place, Wisconsin Hockey National Champs!


                  "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                  "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                  Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                  • Jesus god, Minnesota and Michigan are dominating recruiting: https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ne...lasses-For.php
                    Everything in its right place, Wisconsin Hockey National Champs!


                    "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                    "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                    Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                    • I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's perspectives win or lose after this weekend's series. I'm going to miss part of the men's games as whoever did the scheduling didn't seem to take into account the women's and men's games overlapping!

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                      • Originally posted by solovsfett View Post
                        If Wisconsin was well coached with good players... this is going to be a nightmare year.
                        One of the unique aspects of college hockey is different goals in the minds of each player. For some, NCAA D-I will be the pinnacle of their career. They get a four (or five) year scholarship to play hockey and go to school pretty much for free. Then they will fool around in the ECHL for a couple years and eventually get a real job.

                        For others, from the day they step on campus, they are already counting the days until they leave and move on to the NHL/AHL. They go to just enough classes to keep their grades at a passing level and as soon as their "advisor" calls with the NHL contract and/or signing bonus, they are gone. Players can have all the talent in the world, but if they are already looking ahead to the next level, they'll never provide their maximum value in the present or gel as a team. If talent on paper won national titles, Michigan would have been handed the 2022 National Championship in October 2021. SEVEN first round picks on the roster and they couldn't even get to the championship game, much less win it all. Yes, they made it to the Frozen Four but looked like an average team at best and far underperformed their potential.

                        This is where the coaching aspect is huge in college. You need to have someone leading the team that understands the mindsets of ALL the players and how they can differ to get them to all give maximum effort. Michigan Tech had a similar disaster in the late 1990s to what I see WI going through now. We lost Coach Bob Mancini who took a better opportunity and replaced him with Tim Watters - long time NHL veteran, NHL assistant coaching experience. He took a team that finished mid-pack in the old WCHA with overall records around 0.500 (acceptable for MTU back then) and turned them into the doormats of the WCHA winning a total of 38 games over 4+ seasons (replaced early in season 5). It started a 15 year run of horrible hockey at Tech which ended with three consecutive seasons of six, five and four total wins respectively.

                        If you can't recruit talent to campus AND maximize the talent of the players you do land, you can't win in college hockey. Plenty of teams have managed to win titles with collections of older 2nd and 3rd line players simply because the coaches got everything possible out of them and they beat teams who had far more talent/potential on paper.
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                        • Originally posted by solovsfett View Post

                          Yep. If Wisconsin was well coached with good players, they would have clocked Lakeland 12-2 and put up 60 sog.

                          this is going to be a nightmare year.

                          on the upside I’m not going to one game nor buying Btn+ to watch this dumpster fire.
                          This is the disappointing part...I really want to spend my money and time on these things for entertainment in winter, but it absolutely has not been worth it for awhile now and been painful to watch Granato teams (Caufield/Holloway year excluded).

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                          • Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post
                            I'm looking forward to seeing everyone's perspectives win or lose after this weekend's series. I'm going to miss part of the men's games as whoever did the scheduling didn't seem to take into account the women's and men's games overlapping!
                            WI needs a split at minimum as conventional wisdom says UW and OSU are on par, so a split would be ok on the road. They lost last weekend to a Canadian team that Tech crushed. My confidence is at ZERO. I will root for them to win, but I see OSU sweeping.

                            Looks like no TV in WI for the series and I will be attending the women's games, so I won't be listening the games either. The fact that the B18 can't televise these games on one of their alternate channels is a joke.
                            Wisconsin Hockey: 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 WE WANT MORE!
                            ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                            Come to the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod
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                            Originally Posted by Wisko McBadgerton:
                            "Baggot says Hughes and Rockwood are centering the top two lines...
                            Timothy A --> Great hockey mind... Or Greatest hockey mind?!?"

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                            • Originally posted by drop_the_puck View Post

                              This is the disappointing part...I really want to spend my money and time on these things for entertainment in winter, but it absolutely has not been worth it for awhile now and been painful to watch Granato teams (Caufield/Holloway year excluded).
                              Yep. I want to go and we have 6 tickets center ice lower bowl about 18 rows up but I have no desire to watch a team that plays with no heart/desire and has 0 chance to get to the NCAA’s.
                              Everything in its right place, Wisconsin Hockey National Champs!


                              "but you're not as confused as him are you. it's not your job to be as confused as Nigel". Tap pt 1.

                              "I think it's ****ing stock. What--? Which part of that is unclear to you? I think it sounds stock to my ears. I mean, do you want me to write it down?" Tap Pt. 2

                              Who???! So What!!!! Big Deal!!!!

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                              • Originally posted by Timothy A View Post



                                Looks like no TV in WI for the series and I will be attending the women's games, so I won't be listening the games either. The fact that the B18 can't televise these games on one of their alternate channels is a joke.
                                Actually both of this weekends OSU/UW games are on the BTN+ schedule. Perhaps you can watch them on your phone while at the women's games?
                                Last edited by Hockeybuckeye; 10-05-2022, 11:43 PM.

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