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Originally posted by walrus View Post
The baseball article in the BDN that day brings back great memories of Maine in Omaha. One relief pitcher away from glory in Baseball
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Originally posted by walrus View Post
The baseball article in the BDN that day brings back great memories of Maine in Omaha. One relief pitcher away from glory in Baseball
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Originally posted by NCAA watcher View Post
He was hired April 20th, with front page blurb and lead in sports
https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...1494%2C1951728
The search began March 28th with four finalists: Mike Adessa (future NCAA champ), Walsh (future 2x NCAA champ), David Conte (multiple NHL championships) and UNH's Dave O'Connor (recruiter for the UNH 1984-1988 teams).
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Originally posted by BoSox3066 View Postthe point isnt whether it'll work, the point is the man in charge has to have a certain hubris and that the man we need to fix this place is going to believe he would win on the moon. Anyone with second thoughts about the crap Timmy and the boosters cry about isnt the guy.
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Originally posted by Fishman'81 View Post
Not sure about that, BoSox. Utah plays in the Mountain West.
I don't believe that anyone can win at Maine right now, given the roster. Even Belichick fell on his face last year, "genius" or whatever. You need to have at least some talent to work with, and Red left the cupboard bare.
Sadly, I expect that Maine will hire another also-ran, and continue to suck.
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Originally posted by Wayuphere View PostS.W. had a fire that was contagious to his players and staff. He would have been a great car salesman ...
I tried, I failed, so I leave it to someone far more tech talented than myself to dig that nugget up.
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S.W. had a fire that was contagious to his players and staff. He would have been a great car salesman…….
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Originally posted by Chuck Murray View PostThe Walsh quotes from the Mahoney BDN article are pure Walshy, and in retrospect, it's very clear he had a detailed plan for what he was going to do at UMaine. While AD Haskell spends a time blithering about how talking with Western coaches about the impact of the forthcoming "interlocking schedule" with the WCHA was key to his process, Walshy unleashes the following bits:
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Just reading that stuff all these years later, knowing how things played out ... wow. This was a guy with a plan, and he executed that plan to near-perfection. The raw directness of his statements, open statements of intent, stuff we rarely if ever hear any more these days. Sure, he was the "Human Lightning Rod", but he backed it all up with his results.
Walsh had the textbook big asperations and need for more talent. When you tell recruits you're going places, so get on board, youi have to actually have a track record of going places, and demanding excellence.
Unlike others who get a job and wax on about what a great family the program offers even after last place finishes.
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Originally posted by NCAA watcher View PostHe was hired April 20th, with front page blurb and lead in sports
https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...1494%2C1951728
The search began March 28th with four finalists: Mike Adessa (future NCAA champ), Walsh (future 2x NCAA champ), David Conte (multiple NHL championships) and UNH's Dave O'Connor (recruiter for the UNH 1984-1988 teams).
The Walsh quotes from the Mahoney BDN article are pure Walshy, and in retrospect, it's very clear he had a detailed plan for what he was going to do at UMaine. While AD Haskell spends a time blithering about how talking with Western coaches about the impact of the forthcoming "interlocking schedule" with the WCHA was key to his process, Walshy unleashes the following bits:
"I'm not coming here because I want to be a head coach. I don't need the ego trip that goes with becoming a head coach. I'm coming here to develop the hockey program."
"There's a difference between recruiting players who can play Division I and players who can win in Division I."
"The days of Maine giving up on top quality players are over ... I'm not naive enough to think I can get every top player from the Boston area, but I do intend to find the areas in close proximity to Maine in which we can do a job recruiting (in)."
"Close" is further explained to include Ontario, which he pegs at 5 hours away from Orono.
And channeling the great Bear Bryant from his first year at Texas A&M (The Junction Boys):
"We will have a top-heavy senior class next season, but I'm going to put pressure on them to see what they can do to salvage their senior years. It could be a year they will never forget."
Just reading that stuff all these years later, knowing how things played out ... wow. This was a guy with a plan, and he executed that plan to near-perfection. The raw directness of his statements, open statements of intent, stuff we rarely if ever hear any more these days. Sure, he was the "Human Lightning Rod", but he backed it all up with his results.
The Wild West frontier days of Hockey East died with Walshy in September 2001. Fateful month, eh?
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Originally posted by Blackbear96 View PostIt's always easy to detach yourself after the lead guy (Red in this case) is no longer there. The "well, I would've done x differently or would've recruited z" is always easier to say in hindsight. I want someone with no attachment, other than a pure desire to win. No trying to resurrect the "old Maine" but usher in a new era with state of the art facilities and a change of pace. The more Barr continues to come up, the more excited I get, but am just so hesitant. We'll see what happens.
There are a lot of coaches who have a "pure desire to win", whomever gets hired is going to need a little bit more than that. Yes, you want someone who is in it for more than a paycheck (I'm looking at you in your last few years, Captain Turtleneck). But Walshy was more than just someone who wanted to win more than anyone else - he was willing to work harder at it and make sure he was surrounded by similar folks on the roster and on his staff. Planning, organization, etc. I'm sure MS7 (our guy) wants to win really badly, I don't doubt that for a second. But he spouts platitudes in public, so I have to think there's a lot of that trite rote coach-speak ("We need to coach better" or "We're on to Merrimack") being dropped on his players too.
There's not a ton of stuff on the Internet showing Walshy in action, but the relatively few things that are out there have him saying (and doing) things that set him apart from his coaching competitors. I'm sure that was not lost on his players at the time. With social media now marring (editorial insert) the world of communications in a copycat world, it's not making things easier, but if you are a coach with a genuine (and possibly unique) ability to message, you still have a leg up on everyone else.
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Originally posted by Chuck Murray View PostThere was no Internet when Walshy was originally hired by UMaine, but I'm guessing the story of his hiring didn't make huge news in the BDN or PPH sports pages, or anywhere else. Probably a brief blurb about how UMaine hired an unknown assistant who happened to be Ron Mason's son-in-law at the time (I think)? He may not have even been UMaine's first choice, he was certainly an unproven commodity at the time. Look how that turned out.
https://news.google.com/newspapers?i...1494%2C1951728
The 13-member search committee established to produce a prime candidate for the job whittled the four finalists down to three and Haskell clipped the choices down to Walsh and RPI head coach Mike Addesa He visited both of them this week while also meeting with various representatives from the two institutions Addesa withdrew his name from the running Wednesday and announced his decision on Thursday Addesa who wasn’t offered the Maine job according to Haskell had his two-year contract at RPI extended by two more years according to RPI Athletic Director Robert F Ducatte Haskell said one of the problems with Addesa was the fact that he has been a successful head coach for several years and that success commands a salary of appropriate magnitude.
“The other thing was that if a fellow has recruited the kind of talent required to be successful in those leagues he should be able to do it in the East where the competition isn’t quite what it is out West” said Haskell Walsh has had a lot to do with the fact that the Spartans have won 90 games the past three seasons and qualified for the NCAA Division I playoffs each year ! Michigan State made it to the Final Foot this past season where it lost 2-1 to eventual national champ Bowling Green (Ohio) and 6-5 in overtime to North Dakota “I believe in my own heart that the Maine program can become a winner” said Walsh Thursday “I’m not coming here because I want to be a head coach I don’t need the ego trip that goes with becoming a head coach I’m coming here to develop the hockey program It is my sincere belief that with the support of the administration and the fans and the situation that is sitting there with a beautiful facility and the fine academic structure we can win in time” Walsh said he took a look at the head coaching job6 at the University of Vermont and at Dartmouth College but felt right from the beginning that the Maine job “was the best situation available” “Maine made a commitment to hockey when it joined Hockey East” said Walsh “Jack (Semler) took the program to a certain level the move to Hockey East takes the program to another level" Walsh is no stranger to rebuilding because the Spartans hadn’t made the playoffs in the three years prior to the Mason-Walsh regime So he is fully aware of the task at hand “In terms of recruiting there’s a difference between recruiting players who can play Division I and players who can win in Division I” stated Walsh who won’t take a back seat to anyone in the recruiting battles “The days of Maine giving up on top-quality players are over" said Walsh “Bowling Green won a national title with a lot of players from Ontario which is around five hours away I’m not nieve enough to think I can get every top player from the Boston area but I do intend to find the areas in dose proximity to Maine in which we can do a job (recruiting) in”
March 28
UMO hockey coach applicants list cut to four
Bv Larry Mahonev
The man who guided his team to the ECAC Division I championship a few weeks ago two Division I assistant coaches and the assistant director of player recruitment for one of the best teams in the National Hockey League are the four finalists for the University of Maine-Orono hockey job. Dr Ron Tallman the chairman of the committee an nounced that the four men who will be interviewed for the job vacated by Jack Sender include Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Coach Mike Addesa whose Engineers beat Boston University for the ECAC crown University of New Hampshire assistant Dave O'Connor. Michigan State University assistant Shawn Walsh and Dave Conte the assistant director of player recruitment fpr the Washington Capitals "We feel all four are superb candidates” said Tallman who added that the committee will conduct most of the interviews next week before coming up with its final choice bv Friday April 13 The 13-member committee began the weeding out process with 16 names widttied it down to nine and then decided upon the four it would invite to Orono Tallman said there is still a chance that another candidate among the group of nine could be invited for an interview but that the odds are that the man who will become Maine's second head coach will come from the Final FourLast edited by NCAA watcher; 05-05-2021, 08:48 AM.
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostI should clarify. I didn't mean it was taking too long right now. I just meant that if this does go beyond the original date to me it is most likely a negative thing.
There was no Internet when Walshy was originally hired by UMaine, but I'm guessing the story of his hiring didn't make huge news in the BDN or PPH sports pages, or anywhere else. Probably a brief blurb about how UMaine hired an unknown assistant who happened to be Ron Mason's son-in-law at the time (I think)? He may not have even been UMaine's first choice, he was certainly an unproven commodity at the time. Look how that turned out.
Could happen again - never know. I still think Ellsworth could do incredibly well, wherever it is he eventually settles down in D-1. He seems pretty driven and ambitious. Just like you-know-who ...
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Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
I should clarify. I didn't mean it was taking too long right now. I just meant that if this does go beyond the original date to me it is most likely a negative thing.
It's always easy to detach yourself after the lead guy (Red in this case) is no longer there. The "well, I would've done x differently or would've recruited z" is always easier to say in hindsight. I want someone with no attachment, other than a pure desire to win. No trying to resurrect the "old Maine" but usher in a new era with state of the art facilities and a change of pace. The more Barr continues to come up, the more excited I get, but am just so hesitant. We'll see what happens.
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