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Originally posted by Drew S. View Post
I don’t think the total number is very meaningful. For example I’m sure every school values schollies differently but every school has a limit of 18. I would bet they allocate administrative expense to each team differently too as well. What counts is coaching budget, recruiting budget, travel budget, and equipment. All indications are Maine’s budget is severely limited in those areas.
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Originally posted by Drew S. View PostI don’t think the total number is very meaningful. For example I’m sure every school values schollies differently but every school has a limit of 18. I would bet they allocate administrative expense to each team differently too as well. What counts is coaching budget, recruiting budget, travel budget, and equipment. All indications are Maine’s budget is severely limited in those areas.
Average for 2010-18 (-16 MSU)School Athletic Aid Head Assist Recruiting Travel Equip. AA Men Coach Coaches Men Men Men Maine 17.88 $627,870 $304,998 $270,224 $97,190 $191,666 $169,636 Minnesota State 17.84 $327,798 $259,341 $230,549 $67,216 $193,208 $162,715 Minnesota-Duluth 17.95 $411,533 $388,000 $284,045 $61,944 $247,284 $154,609 St. Cloud State 16.59 $341,579 $284,146 $257,352 $62,047 $258,523 $190,440
and the numbers for 2018 (2016 for MSU)School Athletic Aid Head Assist Recruiting Travel Equip. AA Men Coach Coaches Men Men Men Maine 18.00 $723,723 $331,216 $282,655 $94,587 $192,476 $229,580 Minnesota State 17.43 $402,669 $347,372 $265,954 $78,320 $257,736 $169,489 Minnesota-Duluth 18.93 $479,183 $550,625 $395,237 $76,333 $355,443 $170,119 St. Cloud State 14.71 $402,172 $367,498 $291,074 $47,120 $282,923 $175,553
Originally posted by AMC View PostI agree with this. The fuzzy math of "scholarships" isn't very meaningful to me. Do you still have that spreadsheet that broke things down by type of expense?
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Originally posted by rw1733 View PostSomebody might know more about this than I do. Could they have an assistant coach from one of the playoff teams in mind and be waiting for the end of the tournament to announce something?
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Originally posted by AMC View PostAnd here's how I learned I somehow made it so I couldn't see anyone's signatures, and also couldn't get them to turn back on.
SeanWomen's Hockey East Champions 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2010
Men's NCAA Champions 2009, 1995, 1978, 1972, 1971
BU Hockey Games
BU Hockey highlights and extras
NCAA Hockey Financials
Women's Division I Longest Hockey Games
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Yes there are interested people to Coach @ MAINE, but the problem is what Maine will and wants to pay....they want to pay 200-225k per year while anyone coming to Maine has 275-300k as a starting pay per year...so what I am saying is Gendron will be back for at least one more season. UNTIL Ralph figures it out, that he has to pay then you and I will be stuck with Gendron. As they say you get what you paid for. And with that said Gendron isn't going any where's as he has no where's to go and no one wants him either. Maine faithful and Program are stuck until money is found to bring the right Coach in.....sad to say the least.
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Originally posted by Ma#1ne Hky View PostYes there are interested people to Coach @ MAINE, but the problem is what Maine will and wants to pay....they want to pay 200-225k per year while anyone coming to Maine has 275-300k as a starting pay per year...so what I am saying is Gendron will be back for at least one more season. UNTIL Ralph figures it out, that he has to pay then you and I will be stuck with Gendron. As they say you get what you paid for. And with that said Gendron isn't going any where's as he has no where's to go and no one wants him either. Maine faithful and Program are stuck until money is found to bring the right Coach in.....sad to say the least.
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Thanks to you I've started my bi-annual update to my NCAA Financials spreadsheet. I've already have the reports from 11 schools and I've update my sheet for 5 schools so far. One of the schools was Maine, so I've also updated my NCAA Maine Financials spreadsheet as well. Looking at Maine's numbers from 2010-20 these are a few things I noticed:
Maine's earned revenue has remained flat while expanses have grown by 37% ($6 million) so the school's athletic deficit has likewise grown
Maine is opposed to firing coaches with time on their contracts as they have reported severance on only four reports and only 2 were reported against a specific team (softball 2012, men's hockey 2013)
Men's hockey spending on memberships and dues exploded in 2019 & 2020, going from just a few hundred dollars to over $60 thousand dollars
Men's hockey recruiting expenses have been cut in half from 2016
Men's hockey contributions are up, but the increase only covers about half of the ticket revenue decline since 2015
The football team's 2018 NCAA playoffs appearance netted $104,250 (I recall this was a talking point at the time)
Coach Gendron has the highest total compensation of any coach at Maine and has been so since starting. His total compensation started $50 thousand higher than Coach Whitehead and as of 2020 it was just under $344 thousand
Coach Vachon was underpaid as the women's basketball interim head coach and was still making less in 2020 than her predecessor made in 2016
Every sport at Maine loses money, with football the leader at almost $3.2 million in 2020
SeanWomen's Hockey East Champions 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2010
Men's NCAA Champions 2009, 1995, 1978, 1972, 1971
BU Hockey Games
BU Hockey highlights and extras
NCAA Hockey Financials
Women's Division I Longest Hockey Games
I need a kidney; looking for a donor
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Originally posted by Sean Pickett View PostThanks to you I've started my bi-annual update to my NCAA Financials spreadsheet. I've already have the reports from 11 schools and I've update my sheet for 5 schools so far. One of the schools was Maine, so I've also updated my NCAA Maine Financials spreadsheet as well. Looking at Maine's numbers from 2010-20 these are a few things I noticed:
Maine's earned revenue has remained flat while expanses have grown by 37% ($6 million) so the school's athletic deficit has likewise grown
Maine is opposed to firing coaches with time on their contracts as they have reported severance on only four reports and only 2 were reported against a specific team (softball 2012, men's hockey 2013)
Men's hockey spending on memberships and dues exploded in 2019 & 2020, going from just a few hundred dollars to over $60 thousand dollars
Men's hockey recruiting expenses have been cut in half from 2016
Men's hockey contributions are up, but the increase only covers about half of the ticket revenue decline since 2015
The football team's 2018 NCAA playoffs appearance netted $104,250 (I recall this was a talking point at the time)
Coach Gendron has the highest total compensation of any coach at Maine and has been so since starting. His total compensation started $50 thousand higher than Coach Whitehead and as of 2020 it was just under $344 thousand
Coach Vachon was underpaid as the women's basketball interim head coach and was still making less in 2020 than her predecessor made in 2016
Every sport at Maine loses money, with football the leader at almost $3.2 million in 2020
Sean
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Originally posted by Runsub5 View PostThanks Sean. Great work! I am curious about hockey membership and dues going up $60K. What is this exactly?
Sean
Women's Hockey East Champions 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2010
Men's NCAA Champions 2009, 1995, 1978, 1972, 1971
BU Hockey Games
BU Hockey highlights and extras
NCAA Hockey Financials
Women's Division I Longest Hockey Games
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Originally posted by Runsub5 View Post
As Sean's table points out, the total package for Gendron is worth $331,216.00 for 2018. It's probably more than that for 2021 and includes the use of a personal car, expenses, golf club membership and other personal benefits. While this is much less than what private schools pay their head coaches in Hockey East, I wonder how it compares to what public schools pay? Sean may have this information available, but I can't seem to find it.
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