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  • #61
    Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

    Jarmond is a finalist for the UCLA job. Disappointing.
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    Why is anyone surprised that Old Pio is acting like a grumpy old f^ck? He is a grumpy old f^ck.

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    • #62
      Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

      Originally posted by theprofromdover View Post
      Jarmond is a finalist for the UCLA job. Disappointing.
      Should not be a surprise though. Just further confirmation that BC is a stepping stone job, not a destination job. Assuming things go well for Hafley, how long do you think he'll be at BC? Four years? Five years top.
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      • #63
        Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

        BC needs to embrace that stepping stone label. Jarmond has made some very good hires in women's sports like hoops and volleyball (not sure if he hired lacrosse coach) and luring Hafley from Ohio State is promising. If Hafley does well here and then moves on, that's ok. The next guy will have a good situation to step into.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by J.D. View Post
          BC needs to embrace that stepping stone label. Jarmond has made some very good hires in women's sports like hoops and volleyball (not sure if he hired lacrosse coach) and luring Hafley from Ohio State is promising. If Hafley does well here and then moves on, that's ok. The next guy will have a good situation to step into.
          That’s a really bad formula for long term success. BC is now in a P5 conference with 30 million per year payout and growing. They have to retain their top coaches just like Minnesota with PJ Fleck, same boat. It’s impossible to hire one great coach after another.

          Go Eagles!

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          • #65
            Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

            Absolutely not a bad formula. It can be done if you hire the right people. Xavier hoops come to mind. If you don't embrace BC being a stepping stone job get used to mediocrity forever. Might as well bring back Daz.

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            • #66
              Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

              I hope Hafley does well and stays but if he does well and leaves that means he left BC a better job than when he arrived.

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              • #67
                Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                BC needs to embrace that stepping stone label. Jarmond has made some very good hires in women's sports like hoops and volleyball (not sure if he hired lacrosse coach) and luring Hafley from Ohio State is promising. If Hafley does well here and then moves on, that's ok. The next guy will have a good situation to step into.
                I've been saying this for years. Stop hoping that you're going to get a Tom Coughlin type and keep him at BC for 20 years. It's never going to happen. Be happy that you had him for 3, had some success, and then find the next one. Keep the next one for 3-5 years, and then when he leaves, find the next one after him.
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                • #68
                  Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                  On top of that, if you are able to become a consistent winning program using that philosophy you actually increase the chances of a good coach wanting to stick around long-term. Just keep improving the brand.

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                  • #69
                    Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                    Originally posted by J.D. View Post
                    On top of that, if you are able to become a consistent winning program using that philosophy you actually increase the chances of a good coach wanting to stick around long-term. Just keep improving the brand.
                    I don't foresee that happening because I think the potential of the program is ultimately capped by geography alone. Lack of a large pool of high end recruits in your their natural hinterlands, lack of proximity to the high end recruiting areas, and weather are all negative factors that nothing can be done to change. The nearest state to BC geographically that would be considered a rich recruiting ground for football is New Jersey and even that is not an adjacent state.

                    I also think the rise of Clemson to an elite level powerhouse has hurt. I think it makes it difficult for all ACC schools because the conference appears non-competitive to recruits, but it's even worse for schools like BC that are unfortunate enough to be in Clemson's division.
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                    • #70
                      Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                      Jarmond to UCLA official. We'll see how BC plays this. Can't imagine Hafley is too thrilled!

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Cross Check View Post
                        I don't foresee that happening because I think the potential of the program is ultimately capped by geography alone. Lack of a large pool of high end recruits in your their natural hinterlands, lack of proximity to the high end recruiting areas, and weather are all negative factors that nothing can be done to change. The nearest state to BC geographically that would be considered a rich recruiting ground for football is New Jersey and even that is not an adjacent state.

                        I also think the rise of Clemson to an elite level powerhouse has hurt. I think it makes it difficult for all ACC schools because the conference appears non-competitive to recruits, but it's even worse for schools like BC that are unfortunate enough to be in Clemson's division.
                        HAFLEY is recruiting almost every state. If you want to be successful you have to first believe you can be successful. HAFLEY gets it and he is having success. Cycling through coaches is a hit or miss proposition. It’s difficult to find very good football coaches. That’s the weakness in the “embrace the stepping stone “ approach. The answer is to retain your top coaches and build your program into a national brand. Think Jim Calhoun at UConn or Frank Beamer at VT. HAFLEY could do that at BC. BC is already well respected nationally. With the Fish Field House they finally can hold their own facility wise. 30 million in ACC revenue and growing really helps with coaches salaries and the recruiting budget all of which have grown substantially with the hiring of Hafley. The future is very bright for BC football.

                        Go Eagles!

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                        • #72
                          Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                          Ideally yes, BC gets to a point where they retain guys rather than them moving on to bigger things but that doesn't happen overnight. Hafley was definitely an inspiring hire. Now it's time to find another AD like Jarmond and eventually upgrade basketball facilities and hire a good coach.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by eaglekeeper View Post
                            HAFLEY is recruiting almost every state. If you want to be successful you have to first believe you can be successful. HAFLEY gets it and he is having success. Cycling through coaches is a hit or miss proposition. It’s difficult to find very good football coaches. That’s the weakness in the “embrace the stepping stone “ approach. The answer is to retain your top coaches and build your program into a national brand. Think Jim Calhoun at UConn or Frank Beamer at VT. HAFLEY could do that at BC. BC is already well respected nationally. With the Fish Field House they finally can hold their own facility wise. 30 million in ACC revenue and growing really helps with coaches salaries and the recruiting budget all of which have grown substantially with the hiring of Hafley. The future is very bright for BC football.

                            Go Eagles!
                            Lost me at “BC is well respected nationally” - that is simply not accurate at all.

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                            • #74
                              Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                              Originally posted by eaglekeeper View Post
                              HAFLEY is recruiting almost every state. If you want to be successful you have to first believe you can be successful. HAFLEY gets it and he is having success. Cycling through coaches is a hit or miss proposition. It’s difficult to find very good football coaches. That’s the weakness in the “embrace the stepping stone “ approach. The answer is to retain your top coaches and build your program into a national brand. Think Jim Calhoun at UConn or Frank Beamer at VT. HAFLEY could do that at BC. BC is already well respected nationally. With the Fish Field House they finally can hold their own facility wise. 30 million in ACC revenue and growing really helps with coaches salaries and the recruiting budget all of which have grown substantially with the hiring of Hafley. The future is very bright for BC football.

                              Go Eagles!
                              He COULD...but does he not jump at the first chance for a bigger job? I think if he succeeds, he is out of BC quickly.
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                              • #75
                                Re: BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

                                Hafley was/is pretty highly regarded. A much more inspiring hire than Steve Addazio was. Definitely a sign BC has stepped up the commitment to football--that and the practice facility. It's obviously not a premier job but it's a good job.

                                Now, the same commitment needs to be made to hoops. They are far behind there.

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