BC Eagles 2020-21 - in memory of Steve Gerrish

[J.D.]

Shame on BC for not bowing out along with ND!

[Nick Papagiorgio]

"If BC gets another"....its kind of at that point already isn't it. They will only have to win 3 games while everyone else would have to beat 4 of the top 16 teams in the country to win it all. Thats a massive advantage is it not? If this happened to North Dakota everyone would be saying the same thing as well.

For years we had this very format with byes being awarded to the top 4 teams (if we were in a 12-team format tourney from the old days, BC would have received a bye since they were #2 overall).

[The Zlax45]

They explored that option. They wanted to do it in Pittsburgh but couldn't make it work.

aka Money talks

[Lemonade]

Far be it from me to defend BC - heh - but I totally disagree with you. They were advancing regardless of this situation and you cannot tell me any differently. There is a two -week break between this weekend and the Frozen Four. You mean to tell me that the other three regional finals winners will be at such a disadvantage with a two week rest? A non-issue.

You do realize a #1 seed doesn't guarantee you advance correct? Totally idiotic to say they were advancing regardless. Do you realize that injuries happen and not playing another game at that tempo vs that quality team isn't a massive advantage then I cant help you.

[J.D.]

aka Money talks

Huh?

[Drew S.]

Legitimate to who? If a team wins the title via multiple/4 defaults...ok. People can have their opinions on what it means. But if BC were to beat St. Cloud, Minnesota and North Dakota en route to a title only people like Lemonade will be lamenting that BC didn't have to play mediocre Notre Dame to start.

If BC wins three games to win NC I would definitely consider in legitimate. If it’s only one or two I would probably feel differently. Hopefully Notre Dame is the only team that runs into an issue.

[Scarlet]

You do realize a #1 seed doesn't guarantee you advance correct? Totally idiotic to say they were advancing regardless. Do you realize that injuries happen and not playing another game at that tempo vs that quality team isn't a massive advantage then I cant help you.

:bangs head several times on my desk:
Oh for the love of God, you're making me do this again. Hey BC peeps, I'm going to need some credit for this.

1. Apparently you aren't aware of my "BC will always win to make Scarlet depressed/upset/angry" mode that has been brought up multiple times on the BU thread over the course of SEVERAL years. Before this happened, I was actually leaning 60/40 that Notre Dame would be the team coming out of this region because they were added in at the last moment. And if you had been following BU hockey as long as I have you would know never to cross me on things like "You do realize a #1 seed doesn't guarantee your advance correct"

2. Your previous post was how BC would have an advantage over the other three region winners AT THE FROZEN FOUR. Which is two weeks away. A team that has to play two games this weekend and has a two week break had no disadvantage over a team that only played one game this weekend and also has a two week break. They don't. This was how it used to be at the super regionals back in the day. And on a few occasions, the team that played day one that had to play a team that got a bye sometimes beat the team that got a bye.

[Lemonade]

If BC wins three games to win NC I would definitely consider in legitimate. If it’s only one or two I would probably feel differently. Hopefully Notre Dame is the only team that runs into an issue.

if BC only had to play a mediocre UMass-Lowell team to win Hockey East...oh wait.

[Lemonade]

:bangs head several times on my desk:
Oh for the love of God, you're making me do this again. Hey BC peeps, I'm going to need some credit for this.

1. Apparently you aren't aware of my "BC will always win to make Scarlet depressed/upset/angry" mode that has been brought up multiple times on the BU thread over the course of SEVERAL years. Before this happened, I was actually leaning 60/40 that Notre Dame would be the team coming out of this region because they were added in at the last moment. And if you had been following BU hockey as long as I have you would know never to cross me on things like "You do realize a #1 seed doesn't guarantee your advance correct"

2. Your previous post was how BC would have an advantage over the other three region winners AT THE FROZEN FOUR. Which is two weeks away. A team that has to play two games this weekend and has a two week break had no disadvantage over a team that only played one game this weekend and also has a two week break. They don't. This was how it used to be at the super regionals back in the day. And on a few occasions, the team that played day one that had to play a team that got a bye sometimes beat the team that got a bye.

I love how people rationalize that winning 3 games is the same as winning 4 games in the NCAA playoff format.


From the other post:

Since the seismic Holy Cross upset of #1 seed Minnesota in 2006, the top seeds in regionals have been vulnerable.

Counting that 2006 field, there have been 56 number one seeds in a region (4 per tournament). 23 of them lost to the #4 seeded team in their first game, that's more than 41% of them. The 2005 tournament was the last one where all the #1 seeds won their opening game of the tournament.

2006
Holy Cross 4, Minnesota 3 (OT)

2007
UMass 1, Clarkson 0 (OT)
Miami 2, New Hampshire 1

2008
Notre Dame 7, New Hampshire 3

2009
Air Force 2, Michigan 0
Bemidji State 5, Notre Dame 1
Miami 4, Denver 2

2010
RIT 2, Denver 1

2011
Colorado College 8, Boston College 4
New Hampshire 3, Miami 1

2012
Cornell 3, Michigan 2 (OT)

2013
Yale 3, Minnesota 2 (OT)
St. Cloud State 5, Notre Dame 1

2014
North Dakota 5, Wisconsin 2

2015
RIT 2, Minnesota State 1
Providence 7, Miami 5

2016
Minnesota Duluth 3, Providence 2 (2OT)
Ferris State 5, St. Cloud State 4 (OT)

2017
Notre Dame 3, Minnesota 2

2018
Air Force 4, St. Cloud State 1
Boston University 3, Cornell 1

2019
American International 2, St. Cloud State 1
Providence 6, Minnesota State 3


If this happened to ND or any other team I would be saying the same thing. Its a massive advantage. Take it. But its huge. Everyone of these games are essentially a coin flip and not having to flip the coin one time is a phenomenal advantage.

[J.D.]

Scarlet, you only get partial credit. Simply because it's easy to take on this moron! Just like another BU poster has done to him on Twitter.

[Scarlet]

Scarlet, you only get partial credit. Simply because it's easy to take on this moron! Just like another BU poster has done to him on Twitter.

Nuh uh JD. I'm doing this in the BC thread, defending BC. It's....it's just not done. I need more than partial otherwise I'll hate you all more than I already do. Which is a lot!!

[claver2010]

The issue I see is what if BC gets another default and goes on to ‘win’ the title? Would that be considered legitimate? The NCAA should have gone away from the regionals and built in more time in case teams ran into issues like this.

personally, i will wait for affirmation from lemonade

[Lemonade]

Scarlet, you only get partial credit. Simply because it's easy to take on this moron! Just like another BU poster has done to him on Twitter.

Please - yes, apparently I am incorrect. Winning 4 games in the NCAA tournament is easier than winning 3 games. My apologies.

[Lemonade]

personally, i will wait for affirmation from lemonade

keep waiting....you guys are right though. This is no advantage for BC at all. None. My bad.

[SCSUBlackandRed]

Yes, it's absolutely an advantage to GET to the Frozen Four with only needing to win one game when everyone else (as of right now) has to win two. But once we're to that point, really not an advantage. MAYBE you didn't take an injury that could have happened in the first game but that's it. Everyone is rested at that point.

So yes, it's an advantage. No, there wasn't anything BC could do about it. It couldn't have happened in any region. It is what it is.

I'm happy that they at least moved the BU/SCSU game up to 1pm so at least the winner will get a little more rest than the would have otherwise.

Game on.