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  • Sol Diablo
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    Originally posted by defkit View Post
    I'm obviously biased, but I think you are underselling Farrance. Led the nation in points for a d-man. Most points for a BU d-man since the dawn of Hockey East, a list that includes among others, NHLers: Tom Poti, Kevin Shattenkirk, Matt Grzelcyk, Charlie McAvoy, Matt Gilroy, Dante Fabbro, and Adam Clendening.
    I was leaning towards Sanchez but Farrance is probably better, but its close between those 2.

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  • purpleinnebraska
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    Originally posted by defkit View Post
    I'm obviously biased, but I think you are underselling Farrance. Led the nation in points for a d-man. Most points for a BU d-man since the dawn of Hockey East, a list that includes among others, NHLers: Tom Poti, Kevin Shattenkirk, Matt Grzelcyk, Charlie McAvoy, Matt Gilroy, Dante Fabbro, and Adam Clendening.
    Oh, a fine player, no doubt, and a good choice for the top 10. I just would have had him a little farther down the list, since D men usually donít place high unless the team is a title contender.

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  • SJHovey
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    I don't know why but I have a feeling the winner comes out of the west this year, even though only four of the six are from western teams. These things tend to go in streaks, and we've had a string of eastern winners. Just a hunch. I'll go with Perunovich, with Kawaguchi as a dark horse. I think the Mankato guys might split some votes.

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  • defkit
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    Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
    Missed Barron, Farrance, and McKay. I thought Sucese was a bit of a reach, but I didn't think the Big would get shut out. I'm not surprised they left Abruzzese off, being a freshman from a team that didn't have a great year. I did think O'Connor would make it, though.
    Barron was a good pick by the committee; a season as good as Cornell's deserves some recognition for somebody. Farrance had a fine year, and was all the offense they had at times, but if he played at another school, I don't think he makes it. And obviously, I'm glad to see McKay recognized, but I thought they wouldn't put 2 Mavs in.
    I'm obviously biased, but I think you are underselling Farrance. Led the nation in points for a d-man. Most points for a BU d-man since the dawn of Hockey East, a list that includes among others, NHLers: Tom Poti, Kevin Shattenkirk, Matt Grzelcyk, Charlie McAvoy, Matt Gilroy, Dante Fabbro, and Adam Clendening.

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  • MavHockey14
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    Originally posted by Sol Diablo View Post
    Along with seniors in Grand Forks, Bemidji, Tempe,..........
    I understand your point, and seniors everywhere had a lot ripped away from them, but those seniors in Mankato beat each of those teams you alluded to, have never won an NCAA game, and had guys turn down pro contracts for one last kick at the can.

    On the flip side, Shepherd has won titles, and while gunning for a three peat is a massive loss, Iíd argue the guys that havenít won a tournament game and turned down substantial money to try and do so lost more.

    I am in no way, shape, or form biased, either.

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  • Sol Diablo
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    Originally posted by MavHockey14 View Post
    Thereís a group of seniors in Mankato who would like a word....
    Along with seniors in Grand Forks, Bemidji, Tempe,..........

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  • MavHockey14
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    Originally posted by UMD21 View Post
    Iím shocked and saddened Hunter Shepard didnít make the cut. First goalie to win back to back titles since the 50s, came back for his senior year, and I feel nobody was cheated out of so much as he was by having the seasoncancelled
    Thereís a group of seniors in Mankato who would like a word....

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  • UMD21
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    Iím shocked and saddened Hunter Shepard didnít make the cut. First goalie to win back to back titles since the 50s, came back for his senior year, and I feel nobody was cheated out of so much as he was by having the seasoncancelled

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  • Sol Diablo
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    It's not clear to me that the award is more than a popularity contest of very good college hockey players.

    Coaches make the nomination, utilizing certain criteria. However, it's not clear that there is a quantitative template to guide them with such that you could take a coach from a team in a certain conference, throw them into another team in another conference and have some reasonable certainty that they would vote very similarly.

    Next anybody and their brother/sister get to vote using the same criteria as above, they likely have less information about the measurement guidelines and player performance against any guidelines than the coaches. A given team or conference could out-weight other votes to get their choices in. And as I understand it a single person could vote several times. And you can only vote if you have a Facebook account, so does that rational subsetting make it the Hobie Baker Facebook Award?

    Then the final vote is from a "geographically balanced" 29 individuals. How is geographically balanced defined? 1 voter per every 130,000 square miles, which would be taking the USA area divided by 29. So Minnesota & North Dakota combined get 1 voter? New England gets 1/2 voter so you have to add in Pennsylvania & West Virginia to have 1 full voter and that voter could be from W. Virginia? Nevada & Idaho get 1 voter? ..........

    I don't mean to downplay any player getting the award past, present, future. All are deserving under such process.
    Regardless, it appears to be a biased popularity award unless I am mistaken with what I stated here? But good luck to the candidates........

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  • purpleinnebraska
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    Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
    Wild guesses:
    Perunovich
    Leonard
    Michaelis
    O'Connor
    Swayman
    Dugan
    Abruzzese
    Jason Cotton
    Sucese
    Kawaguchi

    I tried to hit every conference. Don't know that voters will do the same. Might have reached on the freshman, but he put up big numbers.
    Missed Barron, Farrance, and McKay. I thought Sucese was a bit of a reach, but I didn't think the Big would get shut out. I'm not surprised they left Abruzzese off, being a freshman from a team that didn't have a great year. I did think O'Connor would make it, though.
    Barron was a good pick by the committee; a season as good as Cornell's deserves some recognition for somebody. Farrance had a fine year, and was all the offense they had at times, but if he played at another school, I don't think he makes it. And obviously, I'm glad to see McKay recognized, but I thought they wouldn't put 2 Mavs in.

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  • FLHockeyMom
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    2019-2020 Hobey Baker Award Finalists
    Morgan Barron, Cornell
    Jason Cotton, Sacred Heart
    Jack Dugan, Providence
    David Farrance, Boston University
    Jordan Kawaguchi, North Dakota
    John Leonard, UMass
    Dryden McKay, Minnesota State
    Marc Michaelis, Minnesota State
    Scott Perunovich, UMD
    Jeremy Swayman, Maine

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  • Wayuphere
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    Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
    I watched him play a lot in the USHL with the Musketeers, so Iíd love to see him make the 10. Had him on my list of 16 or 17, but thought my bias was over ranking him, so I left him out of the 10. (Note to my fellow Mav fans - Same thing on McKay, but Iíd love to see him make it!)
    Bias allowed, lol. As this year progressed he became one of those players who you noticed immediately when his shift came. Always made his linemates look better.

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  • purpleinnebraska
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    Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
    Good list. As a Maine diehard, I would add Fossier to the list. Points alone is top 10. Had the ďCĒ on uniform.
    I watched him play a lot in the USHL with the Musketeers, so Iíd love to see him make the 10. Had him on my list of 16 or 17, but thought my bias was over ranking him, so I left him out of the 10. (Note to my fellow Mav fans - Same thing on McKay, but Iíd love to see him make it!)

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  • Wayuphere
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    Good list. As a Maine diehard, I would add Fossier to the list. Points alone is top 10. Had the ďCĒ on uniform.

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  • Ma#1ne Hky
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    Originally posted by purpleinnebraska View Post
    Wild guesses:
    Perunovich
    Leonard
    Michaelis
    O'Connor
    Swayman
    Dugan
    Abruzzese
    Jason Cotton
    Sucese
    Kawaguchi

    I tried to hit every conference. Don't know that voters will do the same. Might have reached on the freshman, but he put up big numbers.
    Swayman will be a long shot, but he has been the GLUE for Maine all season long and has logged in all the starts and minutes, plus facing a on-slaught of rubber....either way just being mentioned is a honor. Will also be in the running for POY in Hockey East...has just signed a entry level deal with Boston.

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