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  • Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
    PWR is all I’ve ever checked. The rest is a beauty contest….
    Beauty contests matter in today's world. Perception is everything.

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    • Post season. No poll will get you in. Recruits get that. After watching polls and PWRs for 40 years, I get how worthless they are to continued program success. Making it to post season based on high PWR rankings continues a tradition and gets recruits attention. Being able to say we made it to the top ten in a poll? Worthless.
      $90(more) for a drink holding ledge and a Maine blanket, but the views still great.
      Just win.....

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      • Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post

        Polls don't mean nothing in terms of tournament selection.....but they do mean "something".....they mean that you are being respected by peers and media for accomplishing something (winning).....fans and recruits see these polls....much more than PWR rankings. Only the hardcore fans delve into the PWR rankings.....polls are the public face of college hockey and Maine is nowhere to be seen which really doesn't reflect reality but will be accepted as such.
        Maine is 24 in PWR, so not being in the top 20 is reality. If they keep winning the polls will reflect that. Barr can play the no respect card in the week leading up to the games. Would I like them to be #1 ( or whatever you think they deserve)in the polls, of course any fan would want that. But at this point they are where they belong, on the outside looking in. Winning is all that matters.
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        • Originally posted by Wayuphere View Post
          Post season. No poll will get you in. Recruits get that. After watching polls and PWRs for 40 years, I get how worthless they are to continued program success. Making it to post season based on high PWR rankings continues a tradition and gets recruits attention. Being able to say we made it to the top ten in a poll? Worthless.
          You guys don't get it...the PWR is a non-starter....win and the friggin PWR takes care of itself.

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          • Originally posted by walrus View Post
            If they keep winning the polls will reflect that.
            You have more confidence in that theory than I do.

            Originally posted by walrus View Post
            Winning is all that matters.
            Agreed.

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            • Polls dont mean much. They dont help win games.
              You play well and win the rest takes care of itself.
              Having said that I do look at PWR only to gage who looks positioned to make the tourney.
              At the end of the day after the regular season play if you dont keep going your home fishing or golfing. Doesn't matter where you finished in the polls.
              Recruits factor in a whole bunch more other than just the team uscho poll #.
              Last edited by NorthMike; 03-01-2023, 07:35 AM.

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              • Originally posted by NorthMike View Post
                Polls dont mean much. They dont help win games.
                You play well and win the rest takes care of itself.
                Having said that I do look at PWR only to gage who looks positioned to make the tourney.
                At the end of the day after the regular season play if you dont keep going your home fishing or golfing. Doesn't matter where you finished in the polls.
                Recruits factor in a whole bunch more other than just the team uscho pole #.
                The coach's polls mean absolutely NOTHING of course, and that's been the case for years and years.

                It astounds me that people still reference that silly BS.

                It's been completely meaningless for a long, long time,
                Last edited by Fishman'81; 02-28-2023, 10:08 PM.

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                • Enough about polls. They only matter at gentlemen's clubs, correct ? :-) But I think they should in reality more or less reflect what the PWR is saying, and that is based on numbers not opinions, which are, as you know, like azzholes which everyone has. Howz that for a run on sentence, geezus.

                  Congrats to Breen for being named HE player of the month.
                  Last edited by acs64; 03-01-2023, 07:48 AM.
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                  • Originally posted by NorthMike View Post
                    Recruits factor in a whole bunch more other than just the team uscho poll #.
                    I'm sure at a surface glance most recruits have so much going on that the majority probably aren't going in-depth to check out PWR, but they very well may see top 20 poll graphics on their social feeds so being in it is certainly better than not, if even just for the perception of being a relevant program.

                    At the end of the day a winning program with great facilities is what most are looking for. We're getting there but still have a ways to go. Hopefully Barr has sold the new AD on expediting the locker room upgrades and training facilities as those are the most glaring needs. Let's hope they save superficial upgrades like a new scoreboard or ribbon boards until the big needs are done.

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                    • Originally posted by tylerzx2002 View Post

                      I'm sure at a surface glance most recruits have so much going on that the majority probably aren't going in-depth to check out PWR, but they very well may see top 20 poll graphics on their social feeds so being in it is certainly better than not, if even just for the perception of being a relevant program.

                      At the end of the day a winning program with great facilities is what most are looking for. We're getting there but still have a ways to go. Hopefully Barr has sold the new AD on expediting the locker room upgrades and training facilities as those are the most glaring needs. Let's hope they save superficial upgrades like a new scoreboard or ribbon boards until the big needs are done.
                      The scoreboards have already been put out to bid and should be installed in the off-season.

                      I hope that the new AD lays out a clearer picture by the end of the school year to the general public about how the new facilities plan is progressing with timelines and the order in which things are being built. If they want a lot of smaller donations....they might want to communicate things more clearly in this regard.

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                      • Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post

                        The scoreboards have already been put out to bid and should be installed in the off-season.

                        I hope that the new AD lays out a clearer picture by the end of the school year to the general public about how the new facilities plan is progressing with timelines and the order in which things are being built. If they want a lot of smaller donations....they might want to communicate things more clearly in this regard.
                        I said this recently, but heard directly from a source very close to the renovation project that an announcement is imminent in the next few months about the alfond project and that it is very high in priority.
                        As it should be.
                        Hope the announcement is more than the scoreboard.
                        Last edited by NorthMike; 03-01-2023, 12:01 PM.

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                        • Originally posted by tylerzx2002 View Post

                          I'm sure at a surface glance most recruits have so much going on that the majority probably aren't going in-depth to check out PWR, but they very well may see top 20 poll graphics on their social feeds so being in it is certainly better than not, if even just for the perception of being a relevant program.
                          I don't know a single D-1 player, but I've known quite a few D-3 players and players' parents, and the the PWR comes up in conversation every single weekend. The coach's poll is never mentioned, except in the local fish-wrapper and in the game programs.

                          The kids themselves grasp what's relevant. Betcha every Bear knows Maine's PWR as we speak.

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                          • Originally posted by acs64 View Post
                            Enough about polls. They only matter at gentlemen's clubs, correct ? :-) But I think they should in reality more or less reflect what the PWR is saying, and that is based on numbers not opinions, which are, as you know, like azzholes which everyone has. Howz that for a run on sentence, geezus.

                            Congrats to Breen for being named HE player of the month.
                            Opinions are like bumbums - everybody's got one and most of them are cracked.

                            The USCHO poll and PWR typically come into pretty perfect alignment by the point in the season that PWR can be reasonably calculated. I haven't looked at the two of them side by each this week - someone who has can tell me if I'm way off base.
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                            • Originally posted by NorthMike View Post

                              I said this recently, but heard directly from a source very close to the renovation project that an announcement is imminent in the next few months about the alfond project and that it is very high in priority.
                              As it should be.
                              Hope the announcement is more than the scoreboard.
                              I don't understand a new scoreboard at all. Are people only watching the video screen or something? I look to see time, PP or PK time remaining and thats about it. Do they sell time on it? Seems like other things in Alfond are more important.
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                              • Originally posted by UncleRay View Post

                                Opinions are like bumbums - everybody's got one and most of them are cracked.

                                The USCHO poll and PWR typically come into pretty perfect alignment by the point in the season that PWR can be reasonably calculated. I haven't looked at the two of them side by each this week - someone who has can tell me if I'm way off base.
                                Probably the sensitive milllenials need to see their mug on the scoreboard to feel loved. Who tf knows
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