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  • NorthMike
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    Worth watching the facility plan webinar done Nov 18.
    About minute 53 Barr comes on and has some interesting input and comparisons of our player facilities vs other hock east teams. We need this renovation!!

    In the middle somewhere is more detail on the Shawn Walsh ctr renovations. The more I see of this the more I understand how important it is to upgrade the player facilities.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaHo...ndex=1&t=2491s
    Last edited by NorthMike; 12-18-2022, 07:15 PM.

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  • UncleRay
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    Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post

    If you think that 36 to 50 is mentally and physically the same as 50 to 65.....I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Arizona. I just don't see someone who is obsessed with "moving up" staying at Miami of Ohio for 15 years through his 30s and 40s. And at 50 he is taking a position in Orono, Maine that only pays $250K??? He will pocket $1.25 million if he stays for 5 years....I'm OK with that. That sees us through a good chunk of new facility development. Maybe once his daughters graduate he will want to take a position where he wants to retire....wherever that may be.
    I'm a much simpler guy than you seem to realize. You keep reading far more into my writing than I've put there. All I said was that there are fifteen years between 36 and 50 as well as between 50 and 65. Nothing more, and certainly not all that you (mis)read into it. All I'm saying is that I don't expect him to last. And if I correctly understand your comments about 5 years' earnings and taking another "position where he wants to retire," we're actually in agreement.

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  • NorthMike
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    Originally posted by BlackBearFan19 View Post
    It’s hard to argue against Ralph as a successful AD. I don’t know how instrumental he was in landing the Alfond donation but it happened on his watch so he deserves some credit.

    He hired some really bright young coaches and the master plan was developed under his leadership. I have no problems with that guy and if the new guy is like him, I’d be pretty pleased.
    Ken was the best AD we have had since before James, Abbott, Creech ( cant recall who was before James, lol). Including as you mentioned and the way he hired Barr was superb!

    It was really unfortunate that he left, all I can think is that job must be really frustrating. He certainly knew what was needed.

    Larry's article on the new AD is pretty accurate.

    Wish Killy all the best and hope he does good here.
    Last edited by NorthMike; 12-16-2022, 01:10 PM.

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  • umhockey91
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    Originally posted by Drew S. View Post

    Did he?
    Obviously you haven't been paying attention. Anyway....Twitter is already depressing enough....so I think I'll just wish y'all a Merry Christmas (hope I didn't offend any of you!) and take a break from this bastion of negativity.

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  • BlackBearFan19
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    It’s hard to argue against Ralph as a successful AD. I don’t know how instrumental he was in landing the Alfond donation but it happened on his watch so he deserves some credit.

    He hired some really bright young coaches and the master plan was developed under his leadership. I have no problems with that guy and if the new guy is like him, I’d be pretty pleased.

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  • Drew S.
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    Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post
    How did Ken Ralph gain traction with stakeholders?
    Did he?

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  • umhockey91
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    So many UMaine fans remind me of today's weather.....a bunch of snowflakes.

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  • umhockey91
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    Originally posted by walrus View Post

    He left for other stake holders
    That's nice....but you didn't answer my question.

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  • umhockey91
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    Originally posted by UncleRay View Post
    The difference between 36 and 50 is the same as 50 to retirement. If he was looking to climb for the past 15, he'll be looking to climb for the next 15. Advancement within a department can be easier - and smarter - than looking elsewhere sometimes. As I already pointed out, as UM AD, there's no room for internal advancement, so if he is successful at Maine - and we all want him to be - it is not where he will retire from.
    If you think that 36 to 50 is mentally and physically the same as 50 to 65.....I've got some oceanfront property to sell you in Arizona. I just don't see someone who is obsessed with "moving up" staying at Miami of Ohio for 15 years through his 30s and 40s. And at 50 he is taking a position in Orono, Maine that only pays $250K??? He will pocket $1.25 million if he stays for 5 years....I'm OK with that. That sees us through a good chunk of new facility development. Maybe once his daughters graduate he will want to take a position where he wants to retire....wherever that may be.

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  • walrus
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    Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post
    How did Ken Ralph gain traction with stakeholders?
    He left for other stake holders

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by UncleRay View Post
    Thanks for the memories, snives. After high school I was an exchange student in the Swiss alps for a year. I skied a few World Cup courses and every one of them was terrifying! A conversation starter I regularly employ is, "if you could have been a world class athlete, what would your sport/discipline have been?" For me, it would have been downhill ski racer. Point 'em and go, none of that sissy turning stuff!
    Me too! Favorite ski film from that time frame was “Downhill Racer” starring Robert Redford. :-)

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  • UncleRay
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    Originally posted by Snively65 View Post

    Jean Claude Killy was my sports hero, too...
    Thanks for the memories, snives. After high school I was an exchange student in the Swiss alps for a year. I skied a few World Cup courses and every one of them was terrifying! A conversation starter I regularly employ is, "if you could have been a world class athlete, what would your sport/discipline have been?" For me, it would have been downhill ski racer. Point 'em and go, none of that sissy turning stuff!

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  • UncleRay
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    Originally posted by umhockey91 View Post

    Disagree on a couple of your points....14 years at Miami of Ohio doesn't matter??? I would hope that he had a number of different jobs there because staying in one position from age 36 to age 50 would be career and financial suicide. He's still "young"? Age 50 is not "young". In college athletics 50 is mid-career and on the downside.
    The difference between 36 and 50 is the same as 50 to retirement. If he was looking to climb for the past 15, he'll be looking to climb for the next 15. Advancement within a department can be easier - and smarter - than looking elsewhere sometimes. As I already pointed out, as UM AD, there's no room for internal advancement, so if he is successful at Maine - and we all want him to be - it is not where he will retire from.

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  • umhockey91
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    How did Ken Ralph gain traction with stakeholders?

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  • Drew S.
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    I just don’t see how Jude gains much traction with the various stakeholders. I would go a different direction and hire someone with local ties to be the face of the athletic department. If you did that and then have deputies handle compliance and things like that the department would be much better off.

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