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  • Sol Diablo
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    Update. Appears they have a plan for D1 entry, for an arena, and have begun execution.
    https://clutchpoints.com/tennessee-s...-team-revealed

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  • AMC
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    Originally posted by Split-N View Post
    So, what's holding Vanderbilt (which already has a club team) back? Must be something other than money.
    No school with FBS football has added a men's team sport this century without either a 10 figure donation or dropping another men's team sport to take its place, with the exception of Michigan adding soccer and lacrosse. Hockey is a whole heck of a lot more expensive than soccer or lacrosse.

    It's money.

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  • Split-N
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    So, what's holding Vanderbilt (which already has a club team) back? Must be something other than money.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Yes, it will start as a club. With aspirations ...

    https://collegehockeyinc.com/article...ey-program.php

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    So…

    Its likely club hockey (which probably goes a bit towards explaining some of the hedging language when CHI talked about it at this years frozen four), but that’s still pretty cool.

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  • DavidNardolillo
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    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post
    Theres not really been any actual problem with the program presented by RMU. They even announced how strong their funding is at large. Obviously not everything is public knowledge, but from what I’ve been able to see the President just decided to cut it… because.
    I've mentioned this on other threads, but previous reporting suggests that RMU was heavily dependent on tuition revenue prior to COVID-19 and that a drop in enrollment caused some painful cuts in January 2019. Unclear whether continued enrollment pressure was a factor here, but hard to imagine the enrollment landscape being much better than 2019. I am guessing that the fundraising highlighted includes restricted funds that might have been difficult to direct towards hockey, but that's just a guess based on my understanding of endowments and endowment accounting.

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  • Sean Pickett
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    Originally posted by beaverhockeyfan View Post
    Speculation I saw on another discussion about RMU dropping hockey is that their facility may be in need of some major work?
    That would be me. The rink is 23 years old and based its age and the answer I think it's likely that RMU was looking at some serious decisions regarding replacing/upgrading the ice making equipment. As I recall Alaska fans mentioned how the Carlson Center (1990) was in serious need of replacements to its systems a year or two ago and a look on the web shows that in 2019 the ice plant, ice rink and upper roof, as well as other areas were nominated for replacement. The February 2021 Capital Improvements Program projects report shows that Fairbanks is moving ahead with a mobile ice plant and ice field for the Carlson Center to replace the current ones at a cost of $1.5 million, plus replacing the upper roof for $2.5 million.

    Sean

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  • beaverhockeyfan
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    Speculation I saw on another discussion about RMU dropping hockey is that their facility may be in need of some major work? From the CHN article:

    https://www.collegehockeynews.com/ne...-Announces.php

    "The decision to discontinue the men’s and women’s ice hockey programs was made based on an analysis which included scholarships and operating costs, and the necessary investments to maintain and improve the current facility," the school said in a statement.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    Originally posted by ExileOnDaytonStreet View Post

    Unrelated scenarios, though, isn’t it?

    Theres not really been any actual problem with the program presented by RMU. They even announced how strong their funding is at large. Obviously not everything is public knowledge, but from what I’ve been able to see the President just decided to cut it… because.
    So RMU cut hockey because ... reasons.

    < sigh >

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  • ExileOnDaytonStreet
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    Originally posted by The Sicatoka View Post
    RMU's announcement yesterday and this do not make for a great conjunction. RMU has to give pause to TSU.
    Unrelated scenarios, though, isn’t it?

    Theres not really been any actual problem with the program presented by RMU. They even announced how strong their funding is at large. Obviously not everything is public knowledge, but from what I’ve been able to see the President just decided to cut it… because.

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  • The Sicatoka
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    RMU's announcement yesterday and this do not make for a great conjunction. RMU has to give pause to TSU.

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  • AMC
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    Originally posted by Schadenfreude View Post

    Some HBCUs are actively trying to grow enrollment by adding more non-African American students. I do not know if Tennessee State is considering such a strategy. If they are, perhaps launching a Division I hockey program could help.
    TSU already has a few teams that are majority white. Tennis and softball, particularly.

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  • Split-N
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    Originally posted by RaceBoarder View Post

    Canada does regularly produce non-white players...
    Not just Canada. There are plenty of non-white players coming up through the USA Hockey programs. The question is if they can be developed in sufficient numbers to establish and sustain a program(s) at the D1 level.

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  • RaceBoarder
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    Originally posted by wsummers View Post

    Please don’t misconstrue this as I would love to see the sport grow and this is not meant to be a racist statement. TSU is a historic Black university with about a 84% non-white student population. Honest question…do they see themselves as a possible magnet for those who don’t fit the stereotypical white middle-class hockey player? There have been over 100 black NHL players so the potential of having a competitive team is there.
    Canada does regularly produce non-white players. You just got to make a better case than Major Juniors.

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  • Schadenfreude
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    Originally posted by wsummers View Post

    Please don’t misconstrue this as I would love to see the sport grow and this is not meant to be a racist statement. TSU is a historic Black university with about a 84% non-white student population. Honest question…do they see themselves as a possible magnet for those who don’t fit the stereotypical white middle-class hockey player? There have been over 100 black NHL players so the potential of having a competitive team is there.
    Some HBCUs are actively trying to grow enrollment by adding more non-African American students. I do not know if Tennessee State is considering such a strategy. If they are, perhaps launching a Division I hockey program could help.

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