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  • #46
    Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

    Three hours to go! Not going to spam the other threads, just bumping this to the top one last time.

    Here are the statistics so far (not including the Random Number and Dr. Last Year; n=41):
    Code:
    Team       | Mean±SD  | Median(Range) |
    ---------------------------------------
    Cornell    |  1.5±0.7 |   1   ( 1- 3) |
    Clarkson   |  2.4±1.2 |   2   ( 1- 5) |
    Quinnipiac |  3.0±1.2 |   3   ( 1- 5) |
    Harvard    |  3.8±1.2 |   4   ( 1- 7) |
    Dartmouth  |  5.3±1.6 |   5   ( 1- 8) |
    Yale       |  5.9±1.5 |   6   ( 2- 9) |
    RPI        |  7.8±1.9 |   8   ( 1-12) |
    Brown      |  8.1±1.8 |   8   ( 5-12) |
    Union      |  8.9±1.6 |   9   ( 4-12) |
    Colgate    |  9.6±2.0 |  10   ( 5-12) |
    Princeton  | 10.3±1.3 |  10   ( 7-12) |
    SLU        | 11.2±1.0 |  11   ( 9-12) |
    Last edited by lugnut92; 10-25-2019, 04:18 PM.
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    GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
    🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

    2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
    2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
    2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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    • #47
      Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

      1. Clarkson
      2. Cornell
      3. Quinnipiac
      4. Dartmouth
      5. Harvard
      6. Brown
      7. RPI
      8. Yale
      9. Princeton
      10. Union
      11. Colgate
      12. SLU

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      • #48
        Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

        1. Quinnipiac
        2. Cornell
        3. Harvard
        4. Clarkson
        5. Yale
        6. Dartmouth
        7. RPI
        8. Princeton
        9. Brown
        10. Union
        11. Colgate
        12. SLU

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        • #49
          Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

          Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
          I suspect that Jenny forgot her password.
          Nah-she was asked to change it as it had been too long since last usage and it was too old. But she did not feel the need to post anything and we only disagreed on one placing in the list which we talked about and of course she agreed that i would know best (if you believe that last part, i have a nice bridge designed by an RPI boy to sell you over the East River in NYC)!!!
          Take the shortest distance to the puck and arrive in ill humor

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          • #50
            Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

            TBRW, published last month:

            1. Harvard 29
            2. Cornell 28
            3. Quinnipiac 28
            4. Clarkson 27
            5. Union 25
            6. Dartmouth 22
            7. Yale 21
            8. Brown 21
            9. Colgate 18
            10. Princeton 17
            11. RPI 17
            12. SLU 11


            Kepler, if I can sneak in:


            1. Cor
            2. Clk
            3. Qpc
            4. Hvd

            5. Drt
            6. Yal
            7. Brn
            8. Uni

            9. Cgt
            10. Prn
            11. RPI
            12. SLU
            Cornell University
            National Champion 1967, 1970
            ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
            Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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            • #51
              Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

              Originally posted by Kepler View Post
              TBRW, published last month:
              ...
              Kepler, if I can sneak in:
              ...
              I'll include the TBRW picks, but unless you can show that your personal picks were recorded somewhere before 10/25, I'll have to say no on those. I'll keep track of them as far as scoring goes, but they won't be included as part of the fan average (not that they'd affect it anyway) and you won't be eligible to win. I hope you understand.

              Here are the final statistics for all on-time human entries to the contest (not including the Random Number and Dr. Last Year; n=44):
              Code:
              Team       | Mean±SD  | Median(Range) |
              ---------------------------------------
              Cornell    |  1.6±0.7 |   1   ( 1- 3) |
              Clarkson   |  2.5±1.3 |   2   ( 1- 5) |
              Quinnipiac |  3.0±1.2 |   3   ( 1- 5) |
              Harvard    |  3.8±1.2 |   4   ( 1- 7) |
              Dartmouth  |  5.3±1.6 |   5   ( 1- 8) |
              Yale       |  6.0±1.5 |   6   ( 2- 9) |
              RPI        |  7.9±1.9 |   8   ( 1-12) |
              Brown      |  8.0±1.7 |   8   ( 5-12) |
              Union      |  8.9±1.6 |   9   ( 4-12) |
              Colgate    |  9.7±2.0 |  10   ( 5-12) |
              Princeton  | 10.2±1.3 |  10   ( 7-12) |
              SLU        | 11.3±1.0 |  12   ( 9-12) |
              We're all pretty sure that Cornell is going to take first place overall, with them receiving over half (24) of the first place votes and no vote below third place. Colgate actually edged out RPI for being the team with the least consensus (standard deviations of 1.96 and 1.91, respectively.

              As with the last few years, no team was picked for every position (RPI was picked everywhere but 2nd-4th), and no position had every team picked (5th place had everyone but Cornell, Princeton, and SLU).

              Patronick's selections are nearly identical to the fan average, with only SLU and Princeton swapped at the bottom of the standings. In a repeat of last year, the Random Number is the furthest away from the consensus (as is to be expected), and ColSkate65 is the most unique human poster.

              Graphs:

              (left: Mean ± SD, right: heat map of votes)

              Because the tiebreakers (see below) used put Cornell at a heavy disadvantage and thus 10th place, all of our picks are really bad so far, but that will get fixed as ECAC games start being played for real. Dutchman and johnk are currently in the lead and Rjm7272 is bringing up the rear for now. Here are the standings with 127 games to play:
              Code:
              Rk Post#         Contestant  Raw
               1    16           Dutchman  216
                    44              johnk  216
               3    30           lugnut92  224
               4     4           sezenack  228
               5    15      ecachawkeyfan  232
               6    20   Earl_Leatherland  232
               7     8       techtodenver  240
                    43  DrDemento+JennyRN  240
               9    14               Turk  242
                    50               TBRW  242
              11    24  Bronco Hockey Fan  246
              12     6         Ralph Baer  248
                    28            bothman  248
              14    25   TalonsUpPuckDown  252
              15     2        The Coaches  258
              16    13          Patronick  260
              17    33        Mike Hutter  262
              18    22           TchrBill  268
                    42          BIG Green  268
              20     3          CLKHockey  270
              21    39          red133883  274
                    48        NPC19850330  274
              23    12         Go Puckman  276
                    19         GoldenBear  276
                    27          GreenBear  276
              26     2          The Media  278
                    26           Saints#1  278
                    35            bothman  278
              29    38            apple2k  280
              30    17      goldenbriggsy  282
              31     9  iowabasedtraveler  284
              32    11            kdiff77  286
                    47       SnowDogFlyer  286
              34     7            drshoen  288
              35     5       allnightwong  290
                    18             cudmud  290
                    23            fr. joe  290
              38    34            Rainman  294
              39     2  The Random Number  298
                     2      Dr. Last Year  298
              41    37              sgt12  300
              42    32 still an empty net  312
              43    41           sshablak  332
              44    31           slumulva  348
              45    29         ColSkate65  360
              46    40            Rjm7272  402
              --    50            Kepler*  294
              This early in the season, I always have to invent a bunch of tiebreakers to allow discrete rankings. They are as follows: ECAC points, ECAC games played, ECAC goal differential (H2H and vs. top4/8 skipped for being meaningless), overall "points", and overall wins. This doesn't really matter, but we have to do something for now.
              RPI Pep Band
              GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
              🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

              2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
              2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
              2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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              • #52
                Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                So many teams played games this weekend! Bothman has taken over the number one spot and all of our scores have improved dramatically! I still wouldn't look too closely at these rankings (every tie had to be broken by goal differential against top 4 opponents, which I don't see remaining a problem), but here they are:

                Code:
                 Rk Post#         Contestant  Raw
                 1    35            bothman  108
                 2     8       techtodenver  110
                 3    37              sgt12  114
                 4     9  iowabasedtraveler  116
                 5    38            apple2k  120
                 6    13          Patronick  128
                      23            fr. joe  128
                 8    15      ecachawkeyfan  132
                 9    31           slumulva  134
                10    12         Go Puckman  136
                      33        Mike Hutter  136
                      51    The Fan Average  136
                13    44              johnk  142
                14     6         Ralph Baer  144
                      43  DrDemento+JennyRN  144
                      47       SnowDogFlyer  144
                17    14               Turk  146
                      32 still an empty net  146
                19    17      goldenbriggsy  150
                20     2          The Media  154
                21    25   TalonsUpPuckDown  156
                22    30           lugnut92  160
                23    41           sshablak  162
                24    19         GoldenBear  164
                25    22           TchrBill  166
                      42          BIG Green  166
                27    11            kdiff77  168
                28    50               TBRW  172
                29    16           Dutchman  174
                      27          GreenBear  174
                31     3          CLKHockey  176
                32    39          red133883  178
                33     2        The Coaches  182
                       4           sezenack  182
                      26           Saints#1  182
                36     7            drshoen  190
                      29         ColSkate65  190
                38     5       allnightwong  192
                      18             cudmud  192
                40    34            Rainman  200
                41    24  Bronco Hockey Fan  202
                42    48        NPC19850330  204
                43    40            Rjm7272  210
                44     2      Dr. Last Year  222
                45    20   Earl_Leatherland  234
                46     2  The Random Number  310
                --    50            Kepler*  170
                Last edited by lugnut92; 11-15-2019, 04:23 PM. Reason: Fixed
                RPI Pep Band
                GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
                🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

                2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
                2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
                2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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                • #53
                  Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                  Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post
                  Bothman has taken over the number one spot and all of our scores have improved dramatically!

                  Code:
                   Rk Post#         Contestant  Raw
                   1    35            bothman  108
                   2     8       techtodenver  110
                   3    37              sgt12  114
                   4     9  iowabasedtraveler  116
                   5    28            bothman  120
                  1st and 5th?
                  Quinnipiac Bobcats
                  2012-13, 2014-15, 2015-16, 2018-19, 2020-21, 2021-22 ECAC Regular Season Champions
                  2013 East Regional Champions, Frozen Four
                  2014 East Regional
                  2015 West Regional
                  2016 ECAC Tournament Champions, East Regional Champions, Frozen Four
                  2019 Midwest Regional
                  2021 West Regional
                  2022 Midwest Regional

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                  • #54
                    Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                    One place ahead of the RandomNumber. Oof!
                    Clarkson Men's/Women’s Hockey
                    ECAC RS: Men: 66, 77, 81, 82, 91, 95, 97, 99, 01, 08 Women: 14, 15, 17, 18
                    ECAC Tourney: Men: 66, 91, 93, 99, 07,19 Women: 17, 18, 19
                    NCAA Tourn Appearance: Men: 57, 58, 62, 63, 66, 70, 81, 82, 84, 90, 91, 92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 07, 08, 18, 19 Women: 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
                    NCAA Frozen 4 Appearance: Men: 57, 58, 62, 63, 66, 70, 91 Women: 14, 16, 17, 18, 19
                    NCAA TITLES: Men: Women: 2014 2017 2018

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                    • #55
                      Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                      Originally posted by MarkEagleUSA View Post
                      1st and 5th?
                      Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
                      RPI Pep Band
                      GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
                      🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

                      2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
                      2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
                      2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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                      • #56
                        Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                        Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post
                        Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
                        Bothman can't use both?
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                        2012 Poser Of The Year

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                        • #57
                          Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                          Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post
                          Oh jeez, it looks like he revised his picks and I completely failed to notice. That's on me. Only the later pick (post#35) will be considered in the rankings, and I'll edit the above post right now.
                          Sorry about that. Yes - the later one is the right one. I probably should have deleted my earlier post, but was afraid you might have already captured it.

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                          • #58
                            Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                            Originally posted by bothman View Post
                            Sorry about that. Yes - the later one is the right one. I probably should have deleted my earlier post, but was afraid you might have already captured it.
                            No, you did exactly the right thing, I just didn't notice that you'd made a second post.
                            RPI Pep Band
                            GO GO GO YOU RED RED RED!!! and I guess Yale?
                            🎶🎺🎺🎺 LET'S GO BLUES!

                            2017-2018 RPI Pick to Click – Champion
                            2013-2016 RPI Pick to Click – Back-to-Back-to-Back Runner-Up
                            2014-15, 2018-19 ECAC Pick the Standings – Last Place

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                            • #59
                              Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                              Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post
                              I'll include the TBRW picks, but unless you can show that your personal picks were recorded somewhere before 10/25, I'll have to say no on those. I'll keep track of them as far as scoring goes, but they won't be included as part of the fan average (not that they'd affect it anyway) and you won't be eligible to win. I hope you understand.
                              That's totally fair, thank you. Go ahead and drop my personal picks off the chart completely.
                              Cornell University
                              National Champion 1967, 1970
                              ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                              Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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                              • #60
                                Re: ECAC Pick the Standings 2019-2020

                                Originally posted by lugnut92 View Post

                                (left: Mean ± SD, right: heat map of votes)
                                These are beautiful! What did you do them in? (I'm going to try to do the same thing in TBRW.)
                                Cornell University
                                National Champion 1967, 1970
                                ECAC Champion 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1973, 1980, 1986, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2005, 2010
                                Ivy League Champion 1966, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1996, 1997, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2012, 2014, 2018, 2019, 2020

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