University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in March..

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

To many to count. D pinched at the wrong times resulting in said breakaways. Scheel is a shell of himself right now. Talk about night and day before the break

Yeah, they have really struggled in their own end since the turn of the calendar. I saw a stat on Brad Schlossman's twitter: North Dakota allowed 27 goals in the first half of the season. They have allowed 25 goals thus far in January (with two games left to play). Pretty ****ing evidence that it has indeed been night and day since the break.

[icehawk]

Well, that shut me up.

How many breakaways?

To many to count. D pinched at the wrong times resulting in said breakaways. Scheel is a shell of himself right now. Talk about night and day before the break

[bik4u62]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

Not that I put big value in polls, and I don't want to sound whiny (well, gonna sound whiny no matter), but I'm hoping for insights: how did UND not climb in the rankings? Top PW, top RPI, top team stats, and top of arguably the most difficult league. All things you can't say about this week's #1 pick. ??? OK, I'll shut up.

Well, that shut me up.

How many breakaways?

[burd]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

This time of year, I tend to look at PW as a kind of savings account balance statement. Do you have enough cash reserve to cover unanticipated losses so you can stay in the game when the time comes. It's nice to be at the top for that reason. The floor can come up to meet you pretty quickly with some costly losses.

[icehawk]

Not that I put big value in polls, and I don't want to sound whiny (well, gonna sound whiny no matter), but I'm hoping for insights: how did UND not climb in the rankings? Top PW, top RPI, top team stats, and top of arguably the most difficult league. All things you can't say about this week's #1 pick. ??? OK, I'll shut up.

Polls are nothing more than a conversation piece. They really mean nothing. Just be in the top 12 pairwise when the tourney comes around

[purpleinnebraska]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

I suppose - thanks SJ. I thought the polls gave more-than-token-weight to intangibles over just pure numbers; ie league standing, strength of league, goals in critical moments, etc. I'll take off the homer glasses and look again.

I think by this point in the year, the polls are pretty much, "Hey, what's Pairwise say? OK, put me down for that."

[bik4u62]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

If you look at the numbers, both UND and Cornell fell, at least relative to a couple of teams behind them like Mankato and BC.

I suppose - thanks SJ. I thought the polls gave more-than-token-weight to intangibles over just pure numbers; ie league standing, strength of league, goals in critical moments, etc. I'll take off the homer glasses and look again.

[SJHovey]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

Not that I put big value in polls, and I don't want to sound whiny (well, gonna sound whiny no matter), but I'm hoping for insights: how did UND not climb in the rankings? Top PW, top RPI, top team stats, and top of arguably the most difficult league. All things you can't say about this week's #1 pick. ??? OK, I'll shut up.

If you look at the numbers, both UND and Cornell fell, at least relative to a couple of teams behind them like Mankato and BC.

Cornell and UND had the same number of points last week. This week UND fell just a couple of points behind Cornell. I could see how that happened. They tied and won on the road against a team down quite a ways in the pairwise, while Cornell tied and won against a team in the top 20 of the pairwise, NMU.

[bik4u62]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

Not that I put big value in polls, and I don't want to sound whiny (well, gonna sound whiny no matter), but I'm hoping for insights: how did UND not climb in the rankings? Top PW, top RPI, top team stats, and top of arguably the most difficult league. All things you can't say about this week's #1 pick. ??? OK, I'll shut up.

[icehawk]

Looking a little concerning in the new year.

Nah. Anytime you take 5 of 6 points on the road after spotting them 2 goals each night is a good thing. Last year they lose both. Now if they can somehow sweep UMD next weekend they would definitely be in the drivers seat for the Penrose Cup. They get swept then it will get interesting. A split no harm done

[omahasioux1]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

Sioux have now scored more goals this year than all of last year and with their win tonight they now have matched last years win total of 18

Looking a little concerning in the new year.

[icehawk]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

Sioux have now scored more goals this year than all of last year and with their win tonight they now have matched last years win total of 18

[Siouxfaninseattle]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

I don't intend to pee in anyone's Cheerios, but I think the team we saw this weekend could be the team we see the rest of the year. They will battle you, they will win some games, but they aren't going to be a 16-1-2 team. Before the second half started I kind of expected we'd be looking at something like a 9-9 or 10-8 or 9-8-1 second half of the season. I just thought (and still think) there are too many instances where I expect to see a slight drop off in offensive production in the second half, and not enough where we will see an uptick. Do we really think Bowen will score 6 more goals this year? I think we'll see a slight drop off from Pinto, as frequently happens with freshmen, especially ones who go play the WJC. Maybe other guys like Adams or Smith.

You could see a couple of guys have a better second half. I think Mismash is a prime candidate, for instance. But I don't see this team popping 4+ goals a game the rest of the way. Hope I'm wrong.

Honestly, if you'd told me before the season started they would finish the regular seasons with 23-25 wins, and a top three finish in the regular season, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat with this team. It'll easily put them in the tournament, will give the first round NCHC games at home and a good chance to head to St. Paul for the Frozen Faceoff without all of the handwringing over "bubble status."

Based on the first four games this year, I don't see them getting close to the first half record. But I think you are being a little too pessimistic. I told a couple friends that after last weekend a 10-6 record would get them in the tournament. They both said the team would have a better record than that. I think 10-6 looks realistic.

What a great recruit

https://www.grandforksherald.com/spo...thing-you-want

He could turn out to be a great player. Lots of Toews in this kid.

[icehawk]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

What a great recruit

https://www.grandforksherald.com/spo...thing-you-want

[SJHovey]

Re: University of North Dakota '19-'20 Season Thread - There's this Tournament in Mar

I don't intend to pee in anyone's Cheerios, but I think the team we saw this weekend could be the team we see the rest of the year. They will battle you, they will win some games, but they aren't going to be a 16-1-2 team. Before the second half started I kind of expected we'd be looking at something like a 9-9 or 10-8 or 9-8-1 second half of the season. I just thought (and still think) there are too many instances where I expect to see a slight drop off in offensive production in the second half, and not enough where we will see an uptick. Do we really think Bowen will score 6 more goals this year? I think we'll see a slight drop off from Pinto, as frequently happens with freshmen, especially ones who go play the WJC. Maybe other guys like Adams or Smith.

You could see a couple of guys have a better second half. I think Mismash is a prime candidate, for instance. But I don't see this team popping 4+ goals a game the rest of the way. Hope I'm wrong.

Honestly, if you'd told me before the season started they would finish the regular seasons with 23-25 wins, and a top three finish in the regular season, I'd have taken it in a heartbeat with this team. It'll easily put them in the tournament, will give the first round NCHC games at home and a good chance to head to St. Paul for the Frozen Faceoff without all of the handwringing over "bubble status."