UVM Catamounts 2019/20

[j24vt]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

I would rather have Cipollone than Sneddon

[jfromvt]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

Sneddon is done. Everyone involved in the program knows it. If the Holiday tournament is a disaster on and off the ice, they should just pull the plug then.

[VTALUM]

Sneddon is done. Everyone involved in the program knows it. If the Holiday tournament is a disaster on and off the ice, they should just pull the plug then.

Would that it were...would that it were.

[northeastern]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

Vermont's Joey Cipollone has entered the NCAA transfer portal

— Mark Divver (@MarkDivver) December 13, 2019

he has a younger brother as well; slated for '20 or '21 for your program.
you have a beautiful campus & facilities; too bad the hockey has gotten to this point. here's hoping you are out of the swoon soon.

[FireSneddon]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

I think we know what time it is..

[Catamount93]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

I was just looking at KRACH trying to figure out what legitimate expectations are for this program. By my personal count, there is no obvious reason that we should expect UVM to be worse than the following programs in the long term, as they have no systematic advantage over us. That doesn't mean they have not been better than us, or that they shouldn't ever be better than us, but rather I see no systematic advantage they have over us that would indicate a better chance at long term success.

Canisius
St. Lawerence
Ala-Hunt
Mercyhurst
Alaska-Anch
Niagara
Merrimack
Bentley
Robert Moris
AIC
Ferris State
Miami
Lake St.
Miane
UNH
Quinny
Uconn
RIT
St Cloud
Omaha
Sacred Heart
Colorado College
Norther Michigan
Bemidji
Alaska
Northeastern
Lowell
Umass
Providence
Western Michigan
Michigan Tech
Arizona State
Bowling Green
Clarkson
Minnesota State

That's 35 teams, more than half of the 60 teams. And I could make an argument for a few more, but I think people's heads will explode.

So I think we should aspire to be a top 30 team annually, with periodic runs into the top 10. Tell me why I'm wrong.

[Mikey NoNo]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

I was just looking at KRACH trying to figure out what legitimate expectations are for this program. By my personal count, there is no obvious reason that we should expect UVM to be worse than the following programs in the long term, as they have no systematic advantage over us. That doesn't mean they have not been better than us, or that they shouldn't ever be better than us, but rather I see no systematic advantage they have over us that would indicate a better chance at long term success.

Canisius
St. Lawerence
Ala-Hunt
Mercyhurst
Alaska-Anch
Niagara
Merrimack
Bentley
Robert Moris
AIC
Ferris State
Miami
Lake St.
Miane
UNH
Quinny
Uconn
RIT
St Cloud
Omaha
Sacred Heart
Colorado College
Norther Michigan
Bemidji
Alaska
Northeastern
Lowell
Umass
Providence
Western Michigan
Michigan Tech
Arizona State
Bowling Green
Clarkson
Minnesota State

That's 35 teams, more than half of the 60 teams. And I could make an argument for a few more, but I think people's heads will explode.

So I think we should aspire to be a top 30 team annually, with periodic runs into the top 10. Tell me why I'm wrong.

Because Kevin Sneddon is the coach.

[northeastern]

I was just looking at KRACH trying to figure out what legitimate expectations are for this program. By my personal count, there is no obvious reason that we should expect UVM to be worse than the following programs in the long term, as they have no systematic advantage over us. That doesn't mean they have not been better than us, or that they shouldn't ever be better than us, but rather I see no systematic advantage they have over us that would indicate a better chance at long term success.

Canisius
St. Lawerence
Ala-Hunt
Mercyhurst
Alaska-Anch
Niagara
Merrimack
Bentley
Robert Moris
AIC
Ferris State
Miami
Lake St.
Miane
UNH
Quinny
Uconn
RIT
St Cloud
Omaha
Sacred Heart
Colorado College
Norther Michigan
Bemidji
Alaska
Northeastern
Lowell
Umass
Providence
Western Michigan
Michigan Tech
Arizona State
Bowling Green
Clarkson
Minnesota State

That's 35 teams, more than half of the 60 teams. And I could make an argument for a few more, but I think people's heads will explode.

So I think we should aspire to be a top 30 team annually, with periodic runs into the top 10. Tell me why I'm wrong.

because you are what your record says you are.


ps: not trying to troll (we’ve been through it ourselves) ; but that’s the long & short of it.

[amkirby10]

I was just looking at KRACH trying to figure out what legitimate expectations are for this program. By my personal count, there is no obvious reason that we should expect UVM to be worse than the following programs in the long term, as they have no systematic advantage over us. That doesn't mean they have not been better than us, or that they shouldn't ever be better than us, but rather I see no systematic advantage they have over us that would indicate a better chance at long term success.

Canisius
St. Lawerence
Ala-Hunt
Mercyhurst
Alaska-Anch
Niagara
Merrimack
Bentley
Robert Moris
AIC
Ferris State
Miami
Lake St.
Miane
UNH
Quinny
Uconn
RIT
St Cloud
Omaha
Sacred Heart
Colorado College
Norther Michigan
Bemidji
Alaska
Northeastern
Lowell
Umass
Providence
Western Michigan
Michigan Tech
Arizona State
Bowling Green
Clarkson
Minnesota State

That's 35 teams, more than half of the 60 teams. And I could make an argument for a few more, but I think people's heads will explode.

So I think we should aspire to be a top 30 team annually, with periodic runs into the top 10. Tell me why I'm wrong.

I'm curious what you see as Maine's inherent advantage over UVM. I think they should both be about even in terms of expectations. I'm a current UMaine student (and hopefully alumni very soon), and my father is a UVM alumni, and he's always telling me that UVM actually has a brighter future than we do, so I'm curious for your take.

[DLG]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

Northeasteern has a big advantage over you-
major metropolitan market- beanpot- scouts see you more often

[VTALUM]

Because Kevin Sneddon is the coach.

+1

[Catamount93]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

My point was that Maine does not have an advantage over us...that's why they are on the list. I agree they should be about the same.

[Catamount93]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

Northeasteern has a big advantage over you-
major metropolitan market- beanpot- scouts see you more often

Understand your point, I can see that argument. I don't agree it is a big advantage, but I can see the argument that it is an advantage.

[Catamount93]

Re: UVM Catamounts 2019/20

And yes, coaching is an advantage....in fact that's a huge part of my point. But it is not systematic...in theory we could have hired lots of new coaches over the years but didn't.

[amkirby10]

My point was that Maine does not have an advantage over us...that's why they are on the list. I agree they should be about the same.

Ah, I didn't see it, sorry. My bad.