WCHA 2019-20 season: We Can Do Better Than Two Bids and a First Round Exit

[beaverhockeyfan]

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Side note. I occasionally think of what names the new league might use, and I keep swinging around to playing off the NCHC with the American College Hockey Conference.

But then we'd need to only use six skaters at a time with no goalies... (like a DH in the AL vs NL )

Let's bring back College Hockey America!

St. Thomas' whole basis for the NCAA waiver is that they were voted out of their D-III league, they are not making this move on their own free will. As far as I know, this has never happened before, so the NCAA has no precedent. And, as mentioned earlier, even if the Tommies have to make a stop at D-II, since there is no D-II hockey tournament, they could declare their intentions to play for the D-I hockey title.

[gfmorris]

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With the news that Arizona State breaking ground on their arena soon, I have a feeling the Separating Seven will be gunning for them, but if AS joins up with the NCHC, B1G, whatever, then I think we see the Seven grab either an Alaska school or Alabama to come up with an 8 team league.

I didn't know that Tuscaloosa went D-I.

GFM

[moose97]

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The last article I read, which I can't find now, implied that the NCAA was no longer considering a waiver, and rather wanted to create an actual blueprint for all DIII programs which want to transition immediately to DI. The next meeting is April, iirc.

Edit - found it http://m.startribune.com/commissione...ing/567271842/

Key quote: "Rather than granting an exception for St. Thomas, the NCAA is considering a process that would allow any qualified school to make the jump from D-III to D-I. Any rule change must be approved by the NCAA’s Division I Council, which meets April 23-24."

[beaverhockeyfan]

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All the math gurus out there can check my numbers to see if I did this correctly as I did this fast on my lunch break.....

Team, GP, Points, Possible Points, Possible Finish

Mankato 20 GP, 51, 75, 1-6
Bemidji 20 GP, 45, 69, 1-7
Northern 18 GP, 38, 68, 1-9
Alaska 22 GP, 35, 53, 1-10
Tech 20 GP, 29, 53, 1-10
BGSU 18 GP, 28, 58, 1-10
Lake St 20 GP, 24, 48, 2-10
UAA 20 GP, 19, 43, 3-10
Ferris 20 GP, 17, 41, 3-10
Huntsville 18 GP, 8, 38, 4-10

[Deman]

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I didn't know that Tuscaloosa went D-I.

GFM

Yeah yeah, I should know better.

[MissThundercat]

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Didn't predict UAH beating Tech last night.

Join the club. There's beer in the fridge.

[beaverhockeyfan]

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The last four weeks are upon us!

Team, GP, Points, Possible Points, Possible Finish

Mankato 22 GP, 56, 74, 1-3 (home ice in first round)
Bemidji 22 GP, 51, 69, 1-5 (playoff berth)
Northern 20 GP, 44, 68, 1-8 (playoff berth)
Alaska 22 GP, 35, 53, 2-9
Tech 22 GP, 32, 50, 3-10
BGSU 20 GP, 28, 52, 2-10
Lake 20 GP, 24, 48, 3-10
UAA 20 GP, 22, 46, 3-10
Ferris 22 GP, 17, 35, 4-10
UAH 20 GP, 11, 34, 5-10

Remaining Schedules

Mankato: Northern, Bye, UAH, at BSU
BSU: Bye, at Northern, at UAA, Mankato
Northern: at Mankato, BSU, at Lake, home and home with Tech
Alaska: at UAH, Bowling Green, Bye, UAA
Tech: Lake, at Ferris, Bye, home and home with Northern
Bowling Green: UAA, at Alaska, Ferris, at UAH
Lake: at Tech, UAH, Northern, at Ferris
UAA: at Bowling Green, at Arizona State (non-conference), BSU, at Alaska
Ferris: Bye, Tech, at Bowling Green, Lake
UAH: Alaska, at Lake, at Mankato, Bowling Green

[purpleinnebraska]

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The last four weeks are upon us!

Team, GP, Points, Possible Points, Possible Finish

Mankato 22 GP, 56, 74, 1-3 (home ice in first round)
Bemidji 22 GP, 51, 69, 1-7 (playoff berth)
Northern 20 GP, 44, 68, 1-9
Alaska 22 GP, 35, 53, 2-9
Tech 22 GP, 32, 50, 3-10
BGSU 20 GP, 28, 52, 2-10
Lake 20 GP, 24, 48, 3-10
UAA 20 GP, 22, 46, 3-10
Ferris 22 GP, 17, 35, 4-10
UAH 20 GP, 11, 34, 5-10

Remaining Schedules

Mankato: Northern, Bye, UAH, at BSU
BSU: Bye, at Northern, at UAA, Mankato
Northern: at Mankato, BSU, at Lake, home and home with Tech
Alaska: at UAH, Bowling Green, Bye, UAA
Tech: Lake, at Ferris, Bye, home and home with Northern
Bowling Green: UAA, at Alaska, Ferris, at UAH
Lake: at Tech, UAH, Northern, at Ferris
UAA: at Bowling Green, at Arizona State (non-conference), BSU, at Alaska
Ferris: Bye, Tech, at Bowling Green, Lake
UAH: Alaska, at Lake, at Mankato, Bowling Green

Good recap! But I don't see how Bemidji can finish below 5th.

[beaverhockeyfan]

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Good recap! But I don't see how Bemidji can finish below 5th.

That's what I get for going too fast..... I saw that BG has a chance to overtake them, but did not account for the fact that Tech cannot.

Original post is edited, thanks!

[gfmorris]

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I remember when I used to do those ... sigh.

GFM

[beaverhockeyfan]

I remember when I used to do those ... sigh.

GFM

I watched one of the best!

[gfmorris]

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I watched one of the best!

Ha

GFM

[gfmorris]

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I can't wait until the next Chasing MacNaughton is out. You'll hear me react to Tech's recent swoon, and not in gloating way.

Oh, and once you listen, you'll ask, "Is Geof defeated?" Yep.

GFM

[MTUHuskies]

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I can't wait until the next Chasing MacNaughton is out. You'll hear me react to Tech's recent swoon, and not in gloating way.

Oh, and once you listen, you'll ask, "Is Geof defeated?" Yep.

GFM

I listened to the patreon version today. Thanks for doing the show. Its always fun to hear from other fan bases, and I like your insight on these forums also.

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[JohnsonsJerseys]

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...I really enjoyed listening to Ryan Johnson. He sounded intelligent.

When you post stuff on Internet message boards there is always a chance it ends up on the opposing team's bulletin board. In this case, there is a good chance it ends up in my signature or on my mom's refrigerator...

He certainly did. He's definitely done his research into the jerseys. I would love to be able to do similar for NMU, but just haven't committed some free time to start. Collecting game worn jerseys has been fun, but I don't know if I could bring myself to flip jerseys like he does. About 80% of my collection are jerseys I would never want to move, the rest are jerseys that I'm not tied to fully, but they still mean a little bit to me and I wouldn't want to move.

I started with a similar thought process. I acquired more and more and would rarely let anything go. First I just wanted MTU jerseys, then I started collecting pro game worn jerseys (NHL, AHL, IHL, ECHL, etc) of Tech alumni. However I found there was really no secondary market for anything from the pro leagues, unless you wanted to sell it down the road for 50% less than you paid, which is a poor long term strategy.

Later, I wanted to collect one jersey from each WCHA team and that helped me make contacts with college teams in other conferences. This is what really launched my passion for collecting ALL of the D-I teams. Yes, there are some schools that make a killing selling their stuff to their fans (North Dakota - $400+ for a jersey that was never worn, $500-$1500 for used) but most programs just can't or don't want to deal with selling their jerseys for one or more reasons:

• Their fans have no interest in stinky old jerseys
• They don't even know their fans might want their old jerseys
• They don't want to take the time to answer a dozen questions over the phone before they sell one, if ever
• They are paranoid of the NCAA rules regarding the use of student athletes to generate "profit"

After 25 years, I've discovered that most people collect pro jerseys for the name on the back. As soon as that player leaves the team or someone better comes along, the previous "hot" player is forgotten and the jersey has very little value. However in the collegiate market, I've found there is much more loyalty. Once someone likes a particular program, they tend to always support that program (alumni are the best example). It really doesn't matter to them the name on the back, if there is one at all. They are happy to have something old or new as long as it is their team.

As an engineer I find it interesting to see all the different styles and concepts for the jerseys and of course the thrill of the chase trying to get something new and unique. I have gotten to meet thousands of really passionate hockey fans over the years and enjoyed their stories as well as swapping jerseys with them. However I've also realized that I can't keep them all so now I enjoy them for as long as I can. But if it means more to someone else, I'm ok with letting it go and just looking forward to the next box that shows up on my porch, ready to teach me something new about the fabric(s) of the game.