RPI Hockey 2019 - 2020: Nordic Combined

[engineerhockeyfan]

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Perhaps you missed my point a bit. I was simply trying to ask a question as to which is more valuable to the RPI program - a player who scored 87 points in 4 years in Troy - or 2 highly touted players that together scored less total points and only stayed one year??? But add one other thought. How many players over the past 5 years have averaged over 22 points per season? When many of the posts on here complain about a lack of scoring for the past few years, i most certainly would take any player giving me 22+ points per year. As far as living up to expectations, how many of us have??

Doc, we agree on most everything, and I agree with you point of having someone stay for all four years and give it his all.
Unfortunately, I had much higher hopes for JL coming into RPI, and I did not get what I expected.
That was probably my fault for shooting so high.
Now, I have no expectations for the incoming freshmen until I see them play on HFH ice.

[Ralph Baer]

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I wonder if this will improve attendance. Sems weird to me that the price isn't mentioned.

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[Ralph Baer]

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Last call for thread titles,

[DrDemento]

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The sad part about that post is how low you set the bar.
Lally came in with high hopes and incredible scoring stats. But he played in a league that left a lot to be desired. He never tried to step up his game and maybe that is why we beat out some of the other school that were after him.
I for one was very disappointed in his game here. And the reason why I don't even look at recruit stats anymore.
I will wait to see what we get when they arrive at RPI.

Perhaps you missed my point a bit. I was simply trying to ask a question as to which is more valuable to the RPI program - a player who scored 87 points in 4 years in Troy - or 2 highly touted players that together scored less total points and only stayed one year??? But add one other thought. How many players over the past 5 years have averaged over 22 points per season? When many of the posts on here complain about a lack of scoring for the past few years, i most certainly would take any player giving me 22+ points per year. As far as living up to expectations, how many of us have??

[Wicked Slappaahs]

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The sad part about that post is how low you set the bar.
Lally came in with high hopes and incredible scoring stats. But he played in a league that left a lot to be desired. He never tried to step up his game and maybe that is why we beat out some of the other school that were after him.
I for one was very disappointed in his game here. And the reason why I don't even look at recruit stats anymore.
I will wait to see what we get when they arrive at RPI.

JL isn't the only CCHL forward to struggle at the D1 level. Highly touted forward Mike Pontarelli followed JL in Cornwall (107 pts. in his lone season there). After a very solid freshman campaign at Union (23 pts), he battled injuries and underwhelmed to say the least finishing with 51 pts. in his 4 seasons.

[engineerhockeyfan]

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Not to mention that during his career at RPI he scored more points for us than the both Pirri and D'Amigo combined (I know, he was here for 4 years and each of them for only 1). But if you wanted see how much value some one added to the program it is as good as any other stat. I'd love as many players as we could add right now that would give us an average over 22 points per season.

The sad part about that post is how low you set the bar.
Lally came in with high hopes and incredible scoring stats. But he played in a league that left a lot to be desired. He never tried to step up his game and maybe that is why we beat out some of the other school that were after him.
I for one was very disappointed in his game here. And the reason why I don't even look at recruit stats anymore.
I will wait to see what we get when they arrive at RPI.

[DrDemento]

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I wouldn't say he was terrible, just not as good as Pirri and D'Amigo. IMHO, it's hard to call him "the next ..." because he was recruited prior to the other two.

Not to mention that during his career at RPI he scored more points for us than the both Pirri and D'Amigo combined (I know, he was here for 4 years and each of them for only 1). But if you wanted see how much value some one added to the program it is as good as any other stat. I'd love as many players as we could add right now that would give us an average over 22 points per season.

[Ralph Baer]

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does anyone really know? laliberte was suppose to be the next pirri damigo he was terrible. lets focus on whos here now and not recruits. the thing with scoring by committee is no go to player like when we had hags and chase

I wouldn't say he was terrible, just not as good as Pirri and D'Amigo. IMHO, it's hard to call him "the next ..." because he was recruited prior to the other two.

[troyboy]

does anyone really know? laliberte was suppose to be the next pirri damigo he was terrible. lets focus on whos here now and not recruits. the thing with scoring by committee is no go to player like when we had hags and chase

to characterize Jacob as terrible is a bit disappointing bringing Jacob in created alot of excitement and anticipation to the program and I guess his career is a matter of opinion it should be noted we won a recruiting war on several levels to get Lally when was the last time that happened this program has no buzz. In my opinion JL was a great engineer.

[Ralph Baer]

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Ahh... the boy scout badge method of rating players! Give me the kids with Aw, Vi and Sk and the GS will come. Ch sounds like a consolation prize - I'll bet most kids tend to fall on the have it side vs. don't have it. Honestly if there was the opposite rating for someone with poor Ch then that would be a more meaningful screen.

I like the descrption as "Boy Scout badge". ")
Goal scoring hasn't been coming at a particularly fast rate recently. Another thing is that there are players who have 6 or more badges including a couple of players who were once on our list.

[puckit717]

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does anyone really know? laliberte was suppose to be the next pirri damigo he was terrible. lets focus on whos here now and not recruits. the thing with scoring by committee is no go to player like when we had hags and chase

[jmhusker]

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I checked this year's freshmen on Neutral Zone for which symbols appeared with each. Only two (one being the injured Helsen) have the symbols. They are the following.

Helsen: St, Aw, Vi, To
Klee: Aw, To

Meanings: Aw=Awareness/IQ, Ch= Character/Leadership, GS=Goal Scoring Ability, Sk=Skating, Sp=Speed, SH=Stick Handling Skill, St-Strength, To=Toughness, Vi=Vision/Passing

I don't think that anything should be taken from who is mentioned since some 4.5 and higher players have no symbols. The symbols are public.

For comparisons, our recruits:
Brown St Sk To GS
Davies St Aw Vi
Itagaki Sp SH Aw Sk
Leibold Sp SH
McIsaac Sp To
Sertti SH Aw Vi Sk

Ahh... the boy scout badge method of rating players! Give me the kids with Aw, Vi and Sk and the GS will come. Ch sounds like a consolation prize - I'll bet most kids tend to fall on the have it side vs. don't have it. Honestly if there was the opposite rating for someone with poor Ch then that would be a more meaningful screen.

[NPC19850330]

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All the best to students during Finals week.

[Ralph Baer]

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Attention turk181, do not read this.
https://twitter.com/_Neutral_Zone/st...94546333208578. (He's a 4 now.)

[Ralph Baer]

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