Hockey East: 2019/20 season is Joe Bertagna's last as commish

[Sean Pickett]

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A question in the Maine thread got me to spend some time looking at the average attendance for each team vs. every other league team from the 2014-15 season to date (I only have the detailed information for all teams to then). Here are each team's average attendance in order. I have bolded the 4 America East teams:
Boston College
Boston University 7791
Providence 5829
Massachusetts 5167
Connecticut 4897
Maine 4709
UMass Lowell 4538
Northeastern 3748
Vermont 3733
New Hampshire 3462
Merrimack 2805

Boston University
Boston College 5098
Maine 4175
Providence 3947
Massachusetts 3862
UMass Lowell 3844
Northeastern 3732
Vermont 3559
New Hampshire 3538
Merrimack 3340
Connecticut 3117

Connecticut
Boston College 5818
New Hampshire 5023
Boston University 4871
Merrimack 4644
Northeastern 4355
Providence 4322
Maine 4303
Vermont 4151
UMass Lowell 4151
Massachusetts 3790

Maine
New Hampshire 4644
Boston College 4525
Boston University 4476
UMass Lowell 4010
Massachusetts 3656
Merrimack 3391
Northeastern 3363
Providence 3107
Vermont 2930
Connecticut 2435

Massachusetts
Boston College 5202
Boston University 4893
Connecticut 3526
New Hampshire 3318
Maine 3242
Providence 2961
Vermont 2899
Northeastern 2713
UMass Lowell 2345
Merrimack 2315

UMass Lowell
Boston College 6107
Providence 5559
Boston University 5213
Vermont 5139
Massachusetts 4906
Maine 4895
Merrimack 4879
New Hampshire 4578
Northeastern 4436
Connecticut 4063

Merrimack
Boston University 2461
Maine 2358
Massachusetts 2306
Northeastern 2249
Vermont 2238
Connecticut 2215
New Hampshire 2190
Boston College 2029
UMass Lowell 2020
Providence 2013

New Hampshire
Maine 6134
Massachusetts 4967
Boston College 4906
Connecticut 4776
Northeastern 4739
Providence 4643
UMass Lowell 4355
Boston University 4342
Merrimack 3897
Vermont 3483

Northeastern
Boston University 3654
Massachusetts 2808
New Hampshire 2666
Providence 2361
Boston College 2291
Connecticut 2154
Vermont 2113
UMass Lowell 2055
Merrimack 1922
Maine 1790

Providence
Northeastern 2814
Boston University 2760
UMass Lowell 2730
Connecticut 2680
Boston College 2630
Maine 2361
Massachusetts 2331
New Hampshire 2322
Merrimack 2280
Vermont 2244

Vermont
New Hampshire 3840
Merrimack 3803
Boston College 3789
Connecticut 3778
Boston University 3772
Massachusetts 3449
UMass Lowell 3387
Maine 3333
Northeastern 2939
Providence 2680

If a breakup occurred I see the 4 original non-America East teams (BU, BC, NU, PC) joining with UMass and UConn to form a new Hockey East. However, the article on CHN implies that the idea of being part of America East was not well received and not likely to happen.

Sean

[brassbonanza]

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What's the big deal? America East is simply pushing to administer the conference under the America East banner. There are currently 4 AE schools in Hockey East.....along with 1 ACC, 1 Big East, 1 AAC, 1 NEC, 1 A-10, 1 Patriot & 1 CAA. Anyone see why AE & the AE ADs are pushing for this? Why not? Hockey East administration has been a dinosaur for the last 5 years in marketing the conference and social media presence. Maybe it's time for some new blood to run things.

Yes, I'm positive that BC, BU, PC, Northeastern, UMass, and UConn are very interested in the folks at Stony Brook, Albany, and Binghamton having a say in how a hockey conference is run.

[umhockey91]

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Yes, I'm positive that BC, BU, PC, Northeastern, UMass, and UConn are very interested in the folks at Stony Brook, Albany, and Binghamton having a say in how a hockey conference is run.

Why would they be interested if Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no say in how a hockey conference is run since Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no hockey programs?

Do some of you guys understand how collegiate conference administration works? CAA Football is a great example.....it is marketed & administered by the CAA....and that is it. Maine and numerous other schools have a say and a vote in CAA Football stuff......however, they have no say or vote in other CAA matters pertaining to other sports......because they are not members of the CAA in other sports. Do some of you not get that?

[mookie1995]

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. However, the article on CHN implies that the idea of being part of America East was not well received and not likely to happen.

Sean

because the idea was akin to dudes sitting around and one asking "hey, how about we each grab a hammer and smash each others nuts"

umlololol indeed

[The Zlax45]

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Why would they be interested if Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no say in how a hockey conference is run since Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no hockey programs?

Do some of you guys understand how collegiate conference administration works? CAA Football is a great example.....it is marketed & administered by the CAA....and that is it. Maine and numerous other schools have a say and a vote in CAA Football stuff......however, they have no say or vote in other CAA matters pertaining to other sports......because they are not members of the CAA in other sports. Do some of you not get that?

EXACTLY!

Hockey East social media presence is retweeting the schools and that is about it. Honestly, it is a freaking joke!

America East has staff going out to interview coaches, alumni, and everyone under the sun creating content. Take a look at the America East twitter page which has a ton of ORIGINAL content

https://twitter.com/AmericaEast

[jjmc85]

Why would they be interested if Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no say in how a hockey conference is run since Stony Brook, Albany & Binghamton have no hockey programs?

Do some of you guys understand how collegiate conference administration works? CAA Football is a great example.....it is marketed & administered by the CAA....and that is it. Maine and numerous other schools have a say and a vote in CAA Football stuff......however, they have no say or vote in other CAA matters pertaining to other sports......because they are not members of the CAA in other sports. Do some of you not get that?

The way the CAA handled taking over the football conference from the A-10, letting their all sports teams vote for FOOTBALL expansion, allowing teams in Georgia and Virginia and the Carolinas to join which lead to Rhode Island momentarily dropping to the NEC and UMass leaving, are why I want no part of the CAA taking over. It seems like they’ve learned a lesson, and URI came back and some SUNY schools were invited, but still. That’s not something I want repeated with Hockey East. If America East wants to run things the same way, they can likewise go to hell.

Also, screw Northeastern and Hofstra for stealing the conference and dropping football right away.

[umhockey91]

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The way the CAA handled taking over the football conference from the A-10, letting their all sports teams vote for FOOTBALL expansion, allowing teams in Georgia and Virginia and the Carolinas to join which lead to Rhode Island momentarily dropping to the NEC and UMass leaving, are why I want no part of the CAA taking over. It seems like they’ve learned a lesson, and URI came back and some SUNY schools were invited, but still. That’s not something I want repeated with Hockey East. If America East wants to run things the same way, they can likewise go to hell.

Also, screw Northeastern and Hofstra for stealing the conference and dropping football right away.

OK Boomer.

[Drew S.]

EXACTLY!

Hockey East social media presence is retweeting the schools and that is about it. Honestly, it is a freaking joke!

America East has staff going out to interview coaches, alumni, and everyone under the sun creating content. Take a look at the America East twitter page which has a ton of ORIGINAL content

https://twitter.com/AmericaEast

I don’t think the social media matters that much. To me the much bigger issue is the scheduling. It’s gone completely to hell in the last 10 years and doesn’t show any signs of getting better. Pretty hard to understand why they would make Northeastern travel to Maine in the weekend between beanpot games.

[Split-N]

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OK Boomer.

IMHO, Hockey East will seek to affiliate with America East when the NCHC seeks to affiliate with the Horizon League. BOOM.

[J.D.]

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I still don't get why America East would even be interested in this. It's worth the hassle of being in charge of another sport?

[The Zlax45]

I don’t think the social media matters that much. To me the much bigger issue is the scheduling. It’s gone completely to hell in the last 10 years and doesn’t show any signs of getting better. Pretty hard to understand why they would make Northeastern travel to Maine in the weekend between beanpot games.

A majority of Hockey East fans couldn’t name every single head coach if they were standing in front of them with no nameplates. Is this good for the league? Absolutely not and with college athletics attendance down pretty much across the country, it isn’t a good trend

[BC/HE]

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If a breakup occurred I see the 4 original non-America East teams (BU, BC, NU, PC) joining with UMass and UConn to form a new Hockey East. However, the article on CHN implies that the idea of being part of America East was not well received and not likely to happen.Sean

Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

[Chris_NH]

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Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

I like this a LOT.

[Sean Pickett]

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Forget this bus league proposition, look to the future and make it a public transportation league. Drop UMass and UConn and add in Holy Cross and Bentley. UML and Merrimack would not qualify because there is a 1 hour travel limit and Providence throws them out.

I'm confused how Holy Cross qualifies under the 1 hour travel limit.

And you may joke about it, but back when everyone played at Boston Arena I recall reading that BU got to the rink by public transportation. I believe BC and Harvard did likewise.

Sean

[BC/HE]

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I'm confused how Holy Cross qualifies under the 1 hour travel limit.

And you may joke about it, but back when everyone played at Boston Arena I recall reading that BU got to the rink by public transportation. I believe BC and Harvard did likewise.

Sean

While it may be 1hr 15m by train Boston to Worcester it is less than 1 hour by car from BU, the furthest east team. Worcester is within an hour of Providence too, so if you want to blame anyone for being left out of this blame PC. But you wouldn't want to trade PC for Merrimack and UML because then it would be an odd number of teams.