Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

[WeAreNDHockey]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Logistical question from the NCAA standpoint:

- Do they have the same staff working the Frozen Four as they do for the Men's B-ball Finals? With Bouncy ball being their single biggest event, I would have to think that it is "all hands on deck!" for the event. Just thinking of this when considering moving the hockey finals.

I'm not answering this with any inside knowledge but I would assume very little overlap. A lot of the people who "staff" these events are from host institutions, either the venues, schools or often city/community people who the NCAA has partnered with (and that is said with inside knowledge, at least from the hockey-side). My guess is if you're seeing any of the same people at both events the number is extremely limited and probably for some unique role these types of events need filled.

[davyd83]

I think it would be better to get the season complete before the men's bb tourney starts the weekend before selection Sunday. Then they don't get totally overrun by bb. I don't mind hockey in Sept and they don't need to take 3-4 weeks off for the Christmas break.

Format change....the first round is home sites, play best of 3 or a 2 game total goal series like the good old days. The final 8 playdown the following weekend at one site, quarters are Friday, semi's Saturday and final Monday night. You could have the final 8 at the same site every year, like they do for baseball, that makes it really easy for scheduling and planning. And why not have the women's FF at the same site at the same time? They could do semi's Saturday and the final Sunday.

The ice quality was also an issue at the women's ff last weekend. It was especially bad for the MN Cornell game.

There aren’t many arenas that can accommodate 8 teams at once.

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

I think it would be better to get the season complete before the men's bb tourney starts the weekend before selection Sunday. Then they don't get totally overrun by bb. I don't mind hockey in Sept and they don't need to take 3-4 weeks off for the Christmas break.

I'd go the other way. Delay the Frozen 4 for another week, and have the tournament start the week before (the current frozen four weekend). That way bb is done; but, maybe you can build off the momentum of bb, and bracket madness, and really push the fun of a hockey bracket. Also, that would put the hockey conference championships on the same weekend as the bb Final Four; but, with most of bb done, could potentially open up some TV slots/viewership for the hockey conference championships on Friday night (and potentially early Saturday afternoon) - and help start some new viewership momentum there with proper PR.

[davyd83]

I'd go the other way. Delay the Frozen 4 for another week, and have the tournament start the week before (the current frozen four weekend). That way bb is done; but, maybe you can build off the momentum of bb, and bracket madness, and really push the fun of a hockey bracket. Also, that would put the hockey conference championships on the same weekend as the bb Final Four; but, with most of bb done, could potentially open up some TV slots/viewership for the hockey conference championships on Friday night (and potentially early Saturday afternoon) - and help start some new viewership momentum there with proper PR.

Then you take AHL (Providence, Allentown), ECHL (Manchester) and USHL (Fargo) rinks out of play because of those leagues being in playoffs.

[Sean Pickett]

Then you take AHL (Providence, Allentown), ECHL (Manchester) and USHL (Fargo) rinks out of play because of those leagues being in playoffs.

You would also take most or all of the NHL rinks out of play for the Frozen Four as the Stanley Cup and NBA playoffs would be underway.

Sean

[ticapnews]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Attendance in Providence: 7180
Attendance in Fargo: 4220 (Friday)
Attendance in Manchester: 5033 (Friday)

[dxmnkd316]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Lol I couldn’t keep the threads straight either.

[Laker Dude]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Then you take AHL (Providence, Allentown), ECHL (Manchester) and USHL (Fargo) rinks out of play because of those leagues being in playoffs.

NHL playoffs could have conflicted with Frozen Four this year had Buffalo had a better season.

[ticapnews]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Lol I couldn’t keep the threads straight either.

I meant to post in both

[dunbar]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Do we know of anyone bidding for 2020 and 2021? Maine was intending to bid for Portland and I thought I had read that North Dakota was looking at Sioux Falls and Fargo again.

[The Zlax45]

Do we know of anyone bidding for 2020 and 2021? Maine was intending to bid for Portland and I thought I had read that North Dakota was looking at Sioux Falls and Fargo again.

Brown did NOT bid in 2021 https://twitter.com/markdivver/status/1112051800205639681?s=21

[ticapnews]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Attendance in Providence: 7180
Attendance in Fargo: 4220 (Friday)
Attendance in Manchester: 5033 (Friday)

Attendance in Manchester (Saturday) 5679

[ticapnews]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Do we know of anyone bidding for 2020 and 2021? Maine was intending to bid for Portland and I thought I had read that North Dakota was looking at Sioux Falls and Fargo again.

The NCAA hasn't said anything yet. The 2020 locations should be announced in mid-April. UMaine submitted bids for 2019, 20 and 21. I really hope Maine doesn't get it. There is no way a regional in Portland will make money without Maine or UNH.

[LordofBrewtown]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Then you take AHL (Providence, Allentown), ECHL (Manchester) and USHL (Fargo) rinks out of play because of those leagues being in playoffs.

Good point. Maybe get rid of the gap week by moving the regionals and conference championships back 1 week then. I prefer that to moving the season up - I don't think it would help/it would still be overshadowed by bb if moved up. If regionals were next week, and conf championships this week, I think there's a better chance those conf champ games get televised on the fox regionals and Big Ten networks.

[ticapnews]

Re: Annual thread in which the absurdity of the current regional system is discussed

Attendance in Providence: 7180
Attendance in Fargo: 4220 (Friday)
Attendance in Manchester: 5033 (Friday)

Attendance in Manchester (Saturday) 5679

Allentown 3763 (Saturday)