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  • gomsuman
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    Predictions for the Thursday-Friday series with Umass-Lowell? I'm hopeful for at least a split. This years team seems to be faster and more willing to shoot than any team Danton Cole had. I might make the drive to watch Thursday's game in person.

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  • John J. MacInnes
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    It doesn't matter even if there is room at Munn, women's hockey is not happening at MSU. The athletic department is already too big and they recently cut the swim/dive program. There's not going to be support for a sport that isn't sponsored by the Big Ten, that's what killed the very successful men's lacrosse program in the 90's. The department direction was decided then when they added women's crew as the way to make up Title IX numbers. The only chance women's hockey had was if they decided to shutter the women's gymnastics program after the scandal, but they are back with a resurgence.

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  • Paul Goddard
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    Originally posted by Pirateasaur View Post

    Suburban was also what I was thinking but I am not sure what sort of ice time they’re working with over there. I was playing Beer League up until Covid and was doing 11:40pm’s on weekdays. I’d also prefer not to immediately shove the women’s team in the corner with an off campus spot but I’m realizing the logistics of this is more complicated than I thought.
    "No one puts baby in a corner"! lol

    In all seriousness I agree with you! Ideally if MSU were to decide to launch a Women's program they would play/dress/train inside Munn. Not sure if any additional locker spaces are available post-reno on what used to be the MSU (North side) operations side of the house?...Wouldn't be a good look to do what men used to in Dem Hall days. Dress in one building (Jenison, or in this case Dem Hall itself) and walk across street/lot to play in another.

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  • Pirateasaur
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    Originally posted by Paul Goddard View Post

    A potential UM Womens program could very easily play out of the Ann Arbor Ice Cube (Former home of the USNTDP). Not ideal but its relatively close to campus (few miles give/take). MSU women could use Suburban rink(s) it would be little to no different than OSU women using old OSU Ice Rink but like someone else said funding an issue.

    As for Dem Hall, I always thought a "throwback" game (MSU men) at Dem Hall would be kind of cool but like previous poster said ice making equipment was taken out long ago.
    Suburban was also what I was thinking but I am not sure what sort of ice time they’re working with over there. I was playing Beer League up until Covid and was doing 11:40pm’s on weekdays. I’d also prefer not to immediately shove the women’s team in the corner with an off campus spot but I’m realizing the logistics of this is more complicated than I thought.

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  • Paul Goddard
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

    U of M has no place to put a women's team but at the least MSU could put one in Dominion Hall quite easily. I think A women's hockey team would be a wonderful addition to the Spartan athletic program.
    I was told by an insider some time ago funding was the primary reason you don't have one. But since the Big Ten now has more money than God, I don't see how finances would any longer be an impediment.
    A potential UM Womens program could very easily play out of the Ann Arbor Ice Cube (Former home of the USNTDP). Not ideal but its relatively close to campus (few miles give/take). MSU women could use Suburban rink(s) it would be little to no different than OSU women using old OSU Ice Rink but like someone else said funding an issue.

    As for Dem Hall, I always thought a "throwback" game (MSU men) at Dem Hall would be kind of cool but like previous poster said ice making equipment was taken out long ago.
    Last edited by Paul Goddard; 10-08-2022, 07:37 AM.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by aallenpollreisz View Post

    Dem Hall is basically a band and ROTC building now. If I recall correctly, the building was heavily renovated for the band not too long ago.

    I can't see MSU ever adding women's hockey without putting a second sheet somewhere on campus. (I'm pretty sure I've been asking for a practice facility with an Olympic-sized sheet for, like, 15 years now.)
    I realize my mistake. After reading your post I looked and saw more recent pictures of the interior showing the upgraded interior. I mistakenly thought it could still have ice, perhaps it could but then the conversion would have been for nothing.

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  • aallenpollreisz
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

    U of M has no place to put a women's team but at the least MSU could put one in Dominion Hall quite easily. I think A women's hockey team would be a wonderful addition to the Spartan athletic program.
    I was told by an insider some time ago funding was the primary reason you don't have one. But since the Big Ten now has more money than God, I don't see how finances would any longer be an impediment.
    Dem Hall is basically a band and ROTC building now. If I recall correctly, the building was heavily renovated for the band not too long ago.

    I can't see MSU ever adding women's hockey without putting a second sheet somewhere on campus. (I'm pretty sure I've been asking for a practice facility with an Olympic-sized sheet for, like, 15 years now.)

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by Pirateasaur View Post

    I don’t think so but it’s ridiculous we don’t have a women’s team. I don’t think UofM has one either. Very strange.

    It’s actually mildly interesting you ask because back in my peewee travel days I played with a girl who held her own among all us boys and I think ended up playing at OSU about 10-15 years ago.
    U of M has no place to put a women's team but at the least MSU could put one in Dominion Hall quite easily. I think A women's hockey team would be a wonderful addition to the Spartan athletic program.
    I was told by an insider some time ago funding was the primary reason you don't have one. But since the Big Ten now has more money than God, I don't see how finances would any longer be an impediment.
    Last edited by Hockeybuckeye; 10-07-2022, 10:11 PM.

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  • Pirateasaur
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    Well, another good 3rd period and decent game overall that comes up short. It seems goal scoring will predictably be an issue. A couple freshman mistakes cost us. Basgall having his pocket picked and Shoudy with a…I won’t say lazy back check…I think he was probably puck watching in the corner instead of picking up his man. He almost certainly got an earful about that one.

    St. Cyr looked much more comfortable which was encouraging.

    There were also some interesting roster moves. I’m sure Christian Krygier and Gucciardi are sick or injured but Cal Dybicz was in for maybe the first time tonight and Justin Jalen might be more of a regular than we would have guessed. Hurtig was also scratched.

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  • Pirateasaur
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    Originally posted by Hockeybuckeye View Post

    Looking forward to seeing it firsthand when Ohio State comes up. One question, was there any consideration on the renovation project to made it so Munn could accommodate a women hockey team?
    I don’t think so but it’s ridiculous we don’t have a women’s team. I don’t think UofM has one either. Very strange.

    It’s actually mildly interesting you ask because back in my peewee travel days I played with a girl who held her own among all us boys and I think ended up playing at OSU about 10-15 years ago.

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  • Hockeybuckeye
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    Originally posted by John J. MacInnes View Post
    Dedication of the renovation is tomorrow at 5:45pm.

    https://www.wilx.com/2022/09/22/my-v...k-new-chapter/
    Looking forward to seeing it firsthand when Ohio State comes up. One question, was there any consideration on the renovation project to made it so Munn could accommodate a women hockey team?

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  • wsummers
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    Originally posted by FLHockeyMom View Post
    I haven't seen anyone comment about Hurtig's play in the NTDP exhibition, but it appears we're going to miss the service of the big Swede for one/more games:

    https://twitter.com/MarkDivver/statu...Cw3ZLw5eYrAAAA
    In the exhibition he gave up a breakaway goal…so played like a Freshman with potential. Basgal was the better of the two new Dmen. If Gucciardi is also unable to play (illness kept him out of the exhibition) Connor will get a regular shift.

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  • FLHockeyMom
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    I haven't seen anyone comment about Hurtig's play in the NTDP exhibition, but it appears we're going to miss the service of the big Swede for one/more games:

    https://twitter.com/MarkDivver/statu...Cw3ZLw5eYrAAAA

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  • wsummers
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    Originally posted by Pirateasaur View Post
    Well, we dropped one to the teens on opening night.

    Hmmm but I actually kinda liked what I saw tonight? Interesting.
    Notre Dame also dropped one to the teens….a very talented group, especially the first line. Hope we snag one of them


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  • Pirateasaur
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    Originally posted by aallenpollreisz View Post
    It's always a little embarrassing to drop one to the NTDP, but I'm definitely not panicking. Super-clunky play in the first two periods, but I was expecting that with the number of transfers and freshmen we have.

    Third period was great, though.

    Hopefully, we learned some stuff. It starts for real next week.
    I thought the first 10 minutes of the game or so was pretty sloppy but it felt like we really tilted the ice after that. That 5 minute stretch in the 2nd featured our D men losing focus and letting guys get behind them. That and a perfectly placed shot that I think tucked between St. Cyr’s shoulder and the crossbar was the difference. I was certain we were going to complete the comeback in the 3rd with how we took the game over.

    There were a lot of little things I liked. I thought we caused a ton of turnovers including our backcheckers frequently catching them from behind in the neutral zone. That one I like because it’s all effort and suggests we weren’t at nearly the speed disadvantage we are used to seeing. The penalty kill was solid as well.

    Jury’s out on the PP. I’d say it probably didn’t look like a strength, as I expect goal scoring also will not be. We also missed the net a ton. We’d probably have put up 50 shots if we’d hit the dang net more.

    Also not sold on our goaltending battle. St. Cyr got more time which suggests he’s leading but let in all 4 goals and seemed to fumble the puck a lot when trying to handle it. His shorter stature also resulted in that 3rd goal of theirs squeaking in above his shoulder.

    And it was great having that massive student section. I hope one day that becomes the norm. Surely out of 40-50 thousand students we can make a good 1500 into hockey fans one day?

    Also, the bench changes really threw me off.
    Last edited by Pirateasaur; 10-02-2022, 12:00 PM.

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