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  • #106
    Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

    Originally posted by Puck Swami View Post
    Men's lacrosse now makes money. too. Women's basketball loses money.
    Thanks for the information.
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    The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

    Originally posted by MN Pond Hockey
    Menards could have sold a lot of rope

    this morning in Grand Forks if North Dakota had trees.

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    • #107
      Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

      Originally posted by bronconick View Post
      Why would the Frozen Four in April keep the NCAA from eliminating hockey in October?
      one way to shorten the season, and save a lot of money for most sports is to cut back the post season. mens hockeys might have a better bargaining position over this because it's post season makes a profit.
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      The reason for the talent in the west? Because MN didn't rely on Canada.

      Originally posted by MN Pond Hockey
      Menards could have sold a lot of rope

      this morning in Grand Forks if North Dakota had trees.

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      • #108
        Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

        Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
        That's why it would have to be a solid majority of the member schools interested in doing it for it to pass.
        Which will never happen. There is a reason Michigan dumped Nike for Adidas. Nike attempted to low ball the university, so Michigan told Nike to take a hike and signed a lucrative contract with Adidas. Why should universities take a paycut in terms of sponsorship funding for a less lucrative unified contract? If I was Michigan, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minny, or BC with more lucrative contracts, I would tell the NCAA to go stick their stupid proposal where the sun doesn't shine.

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        • #109
          Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

          Originally posted by wolverine318 View Post
          Which will never happen. There is a reason Michigan dumped Nike for Adidas. Nike attempted to low ball the university, so Michigan told Nike to take a hike and signed a lucrative contract with Adidas.
          Was that for the whole department or just hockey?
          Keep an open mind. Just don't be so open-minded that your brain falls out.

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          • #110
            Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

            Originally posted by wolverine318 View Post
            Which will never happen. There is a reason Michigan dumped Nike for Adidas. Nike attempted to low ball the university, so Michigan told Nike to take a hike and signed a lucrative contract with Adidas. Why should universities take a paycut in terms of sponsorship funding for a less lucrative unified contract? If I was Michigan, Notre Dame, Wisconsin, Minny, or BC with more lucrative contracts, I would tell the NCAA to go stick their stupid proposal where the sun doesn't shine.
            Given what Nike does with their jerseys (I'm going to howl the next time Florida State comes out in all black, including black helmets), you ought to get down on your knees nightly to thank the Lord for that.
            "I went over the facts in my head, and admired how much uglier the situation had just become. Over the years I've learned that ignorance is more than just bliss. It's freaking orgasmic ecstasy".- Harry Dresden, Blood Rites


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            • #111
              Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

              Originally posted by Red Cloud View Post
              Was that for the whole department or just hockey?
              Whole department. Basically all sponsorship deals are AD wide.

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              • #112
                Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                Originally posted by Alton View Post
                The other thing that hockey has to deal with: not a single member of the 31-person committee who will be considering this proposal is from a school in those conferences. Only Holy Cross & Princeton have representatives on the cabinet, the other 29 members represent non-hockey schools or conferences.

                edit: Sorry, Goon; try here:
                http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/DI_Ch...1%20Review.pdf
                Thanks for re-posting that.
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                • #113
                  Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                  The NCAA Division I Championships/Sports Management Cabinet met last week to give preliminary consideration to the cost-cutting proposals. They separated the proposals into a list of 16 items that are "identified for further discussion" and 5 items that were not.

                  http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/DI_Ch...t%20Report.pdf

                  Unfortunately, one of the proposals that was identified for further discussion was the proposal to "reduce length of season and number of contests in ice hockey."

                  The proposals will be reviewed further at a meeting in June, presumably after the committee is given time to receive feedback on the proposals. Hopefully the college hockey world will step in and express its opinion.

                  "The game of hockey, though much in vogue on the ice in New England and other parts of the United States, is not much known here."

                  --The Montreal Gazette, March 4, 1875.

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                  • #114
                    Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                    Shorter season: yes
                    Fewer contests: no. hell, no.

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                    • #115
                      Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                      Originally posted by Alton View Post
                      The proposals will be reviewed further at a meeting in June, presumably after the committee is given time to receive feedback on the proposals. Hopefully the college hockey world will step in and express its opinion.
                      This is should be a prime agenda item for Paul Kelley and his team at College Hockey Inc, as well other people in the sport to address. College hockey misses little class time with mostly weekend games, and perhaps they can reduce the length of the season by a few weeks without reducing the number contests as a compromise.

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                      • #116
                        Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                        Originally posted by Alton View Post
                        The proposals will be reviewed further at a meeting in June, presumably after the committee is given time to receive feedback on the proposals. Hopefully the college hockey world will step in and express its opinion.
                        Any suggestions on how that might be done?


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                        • #117
                          Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                          Thinking about making major changes to the way the season is set up should NOT be done by a committee with only 2 representatives with hockey programs (and non-varsity programs do not count). I can see this doing major damage to college hockey as we know it.

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                          • #118
                            Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                            The cost-saving proposals, including the reduced length of the hockey season and the reduced maximum number of contests, were discussed by the scary-sounding NCAA Leadership Council earlier this week.

                            http://web1.ncaa.org/web_files/DI_MC...with%20att.pdf

                            I don't know exactly what to make of their brief summary, but I suspect that it is fairly good news:

                            "The leadership council reviewed a list of possible cost savings measures recommended by various Division I cabinets...The Council noted that many of the recommendations appear to address 'low-hanging fruit' and it may be wiser to take a more global approach when attempting to address spending in intercollegiate athletics. The Council recommended that staff collect additional data regarding actual spending areas and, with the possible help of consultants, develop a set of principles that could guide a review of spending."

                            I am interpreting this to mean that proposals like cutting the hockey season were not taken very seriously by the Leadership Council, and they wanted to see more "global" ideas about cutting costs.

                            The recommendation that additional studies be done, and that they possibly hire consultants, just to "develop principles that could guide a review" suggests that any changes are off in the future, and that they will probably not be sport-specific recommendations.

                            This doesn't mean that they won't reduce the hockey season, but it does send a message that reducing the hockey season won't do too much to achieve the cost-cutting that they have in mind. We will need to see how the Championships and Sport Management Cabinet, which meets in June, reacts to what happened at this week's Leadership Council meeting.

                            "The game of hockey, though much in vogue on the ice in New England and other parts of the United States, is not much known here."

                            --The Montreal Gazette, March 4, 1875.

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                            • #119
                              Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                              They're holding a meeting to schedule a meeting to choose a team to gather requirements to inform a study to...
                              Cornell University
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                              • #120
                                Re: Look out, college hockey: The NCAA has noticed us again.

                                Get Pelosi in there. She'll fix the system whether we like it or not. Hope Michigan likes buying RIT's jerseys...

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