UVM 2017/18: A Gutt Check

[TovarishchLisa]

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Also, here's the thing: no matter how you look at it we've been bad.

Analytics nerd? Our CF% is 46.7 (it was above 50% last year).

Eye test? Half the time it looks like they don't care

[TovarishchLisa]

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Not just a win, but a comeback win!

[harry]

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Nice way to bounceback!
I hope the lineup stays similar and we get that PP finally rolling.

We owe BC a little something after last years playoffs.

Go Cats Go!

[Cat lover]

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First thought was "Yeah!!! Looks like we are getting BC at the right time"

Then I remember thinking that before the quarterfinals last year.

[TovarishchLisa]

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Please be a comfortable win...I can't take another thriller after that women's game today

[VermontfaninNY]

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This is a really ugly game so far - that third goal was horrendous, the BC player just flat out beat a player to a loose puck, skated circles around another and then put the puck in the net. I am not sure there is an excuse for a college team looking this slow - I am not sure if it's a lack of talent or lack of effort. Once more this season we are being outshot by at least 2 to 1.

[TovarishchLisa]

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This is a really ugly game so far - that third goal was horrendous, the BC player just flat out beat a player to a loose puck, skated circles around another and then put the puck in the net. I am not sure there is an excuse for a college team looking this slow - I am not sure if it's a lack of talent or lack of effort. Once more this season we are being outshot by at least 2 to 1.

Eye test says effort. That late game play where Colton seemed to check out and missed a guy passing to him....

Men's team is on my garbage list at this point. Women's team earned like a month of carte blanche today. At least when they play bad they look like they care....

[j24vt]

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Two young teams on the ice tonight. The team that wanted it more won. Very evident on the power plays. UVM's dump and chase vs. BC skating in and making passes.

[UVM Cat in Texas]

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I'm gonna go with lack of talent over lack of effort. Nice try by the Cats last night, but BC, as the better team, definitely deserved the win. I just don't think we can compete with the better teams this year, which is a very discouraging thing to have to admit, particularly after the expectations for this somewhat hyped rookie class. We're a lower tier HE team--the quicker I get used to that, the quicker these losses will be easier to take. Go Cats Go. Or not.....

[rufus22]

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I'm gonna go with lack of talent over lack of effort. Nice try by the Cats last night, but BC, as the better team, definitely deserved the win. I just don't think we can compete with the better teams this year, which is a very discouraging thing to have to admit, particularly after the expectations for this somewhat hyped rookie class. We're a lower tier HE team--the quicker I get used to that, the quicker these losses will be easier to take. Go Cats Go. Or not.....

Very much in agreement. The difference in skill was startling and depressing. Except for a few pockets in time I thought the effort wasn't the problem. Lekkas was outstanding. He deserves some better outcomes.

[TovarishchLisa]

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This team is dreadful. Literally left Gutterson early for the first time, ever. If they can't be bothered to show up for 60 minutes, why should I?

[GreenCat]

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This team is dreadful. Literally left Gutterson early for the first time, ever. If they can't be bothered to show up for 60 minutes, why should I?

I will say I did not see either game this weekend but have seen this team a few times this season. They have at times shown great skill. This is a young team so I think there are growing pains and I think there is a lot of parity throughout college hockey as seen by many teams struggling this season. That being said the one thing a coach controls is a player being ready to play and getting a player to play at his full potential which is magnified with a young team. Sneddon seems personable and says all the right things in interviews etc. but year after year I see players not meeting their potential and at some point you have to put that on the coaching staff. This is getting old. I am getting older and more patient so I have not given up yet on this team but they do seem to be heading in the wrong direction which falls on the coaching staff.

[TovarishchLisa]

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I will say I did not see either game this weekend but have seen this team a few times this season. They have at times shown great skill. This is a young team so I think there are growing pains and I think there is a lot of parity throughout college hockey as seen by many teams struggling this season. That being said the one thing a coach controls is a player being ready to play and getting a player to play at his full potential which is magnified with a young team. Sneddon seems personable and says all the right things in interviews etc. but year after year I see players not meeting their potential and at some point you have to put that on the coaching staff. This is getting old. I am getting older and more patient so I have not given up yet on this team but they do seem to be heading in the wrong direction which falls on the coaching staff.

BC is even younger - they only have six players older than the sophomore grade level. One of whom is their third goalie.

[rufus22]

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I will say I did not see either game this weekend but have seen this team a few times this season. They have at times shown great skill. This is a young team so I think there are growing pains and I think there is a lot of parity throughout college hockey as seen by many teams struggling this season. That being said the one thing a coach controls is a player being ready to play and getting a player to play at his full potential which is magnified with a young team. Sneddon seems personable and says all the right things in interviews etc. but year after year I see players not meeting their potential and at some point you have to put that on the coaching staff. This is getting old. I am getting older and more patient so I have not given up yet on this team but they do seem to be heading in the wrong direction which falls on the coaching staff.

Tonight's game was really awful. We got beat by a team that was much, much better than us. But the third period meltdown was awful and the game was effectively over halfway through. What is going on? Are Patrick and Wallack recruiting as has been hyped, and is Sneddon failing to put them together on-ice? Or are the ***'t coaches not doing as well as we think? I've got nothing against the current regime, who brought us into Hockey East and has had flashes of semi-success.
But the last UVM guy to play any time in the NHL beyond a cup of coffee was Victor Stalberg, a Gilligan recruit. And Gilligan had many recruits who played, and in some cases are still playing, in the NHL, not the AHL and ECHL, which all due credit are a giant achievement for a player. But beyond bringing UVM into Hockey East, in a long term sense I don't see what Sneddon has done for the program. I'm not a friend/associate of anyone just someone who has been watching UVM hockey for a very long time (like many people on the board).

[TovarishchLisa]

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Tonight's game was really awful. We got beat by a team that was much, much better than us. But the third period meltdown was awful and the game was effectively over halfway through. What is going on? Are Patrick and Wallack recruiting as has been hyped, and is Sneddon failing to put them together on-ice? Or are the ***'t coaches not doing as well as we think? I've got nothing against the current regime, who brought us into Hockey East and has had flashes of semi-success.
But the last UVM guy to play any time in the NHL beyond a cup of coffee was Victor Stalberg, a Gilligan recruit. And Gilligan had many recruits who played, and in some cases are still playing, in the NHL, not the AHL and ECHL, which all due credit are a giant achievement for a player. But beyond bringing UVM into Hockey East, in a long term sense I don't see what Sneddon has done for the program. I'm not a friend/associate of anyone just someone who has been watching UVM hockey for a very long time (like many people on the board).

Kevan Miller? And it seems like Brickley's finally broken through.

But yeah. I'm not sure who the blame's on - the players? Sneddon? Wallack/Patrick? At least the last time we started badly we were competitive and were mostly just unlucky...

Also, to the #SneddonOut people, I do have a question - who would you replace him with? (I'm not taking a side, I tend to be patient with coaches - I'm a Southampton fan and I wasn't #PuelOut until, like, April last year)