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  • #76
    Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

    Originally posted by Jesus of Suburbia View Post
    ...there are only Ohio teams that play hockey and none of them have made it the tournament lately...
    Originally posted by Draighlicht View Post
    That's strange since I remember seeing a score that read Duluth 3, Ohio State 2 in OT. Last time I looked Ohio State was in Ohio.
    And who can forget the epic finish to the 2009 championship game when Boston University came back from the dead to beat Miami (of Ohio) in OT; and for that matter, the 2015 regionals where Providence beat the same Miami 7-5. (Sorry to bring back the bad memories Redhawk fans but blame Jesus of Suburbia.)
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    • #77
      Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

      Originally posted by chickod View Post
      How many Harvard fans went to Chicago for that matter?
      All of Harvard's fans went to Chicago.
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      • #78
        Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

        Originally posted by chickod View Post
        How many Harvard fans went to Chicago for that matter?
        There were some, but Harvard was most certainly the least represented school out there, it wasn't embarrassingly low though. In the ballpark of 750-1,000 I'd say.
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        • #79
          Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

          The lack of bids out west caused the regionals to end up where they did.

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          • #80
            Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

            Eh, just play the tournament every year in Omaha, similar to the College World Series in baseball. Centrally located, except for the Alaska Schools No more Eastern bias, everyone will know where they're headed every year.
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            • #81
              Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

              I feel there needs to be clarification on the whole campus site issues:

              1. Allow campus locations to be regional sites.
              - appears that the best mid size arenas in the Midwest/west are actual campus sites
              - how to handle host school - place there if seeded, regardless, or just if they're a #1 seed?

              2. Have schools seeded 1-8 host a series on campus (this is what used to happen)
              - would need an additional week to go from eight to four

              What would be the preference here?

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              • #82
                Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                Originally posted by bcmsu9196 View Post
                eh, just play the tournament every year in tampa, similar to omaha with the college world series in baseball. ideally located, especially for the alaska schools :d no more eastern bias, everyone will know where they're headed every year.
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                • #83
                  Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                  This might be a dumb question/suggestion, but why not remove schools as eligible hosts in the bidding process altogether and instead limit it to the venues themselves and/or promoters? Not enough money to be made already to garner more attention than is currently generated?

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                  • #84
                    Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                    There are plenty of neutral sites in the Midwest/west it's just that most of them are not within a couple hours of enough teams like our east. I made a list in the frozen four thread but I can post here too.
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                    • #85
                      Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                      Here is my breakdown of neutral venues:
                      CO: Denver, Loveland
                      ND: Fargo
                      SD: Sioux Falls, Rapid City
                      NE: Omaha, Ralston, Lincoln, Kearney
                      MN: St Paul, Theif River Falls, Minneapolis
                      IA: Sioux City, Waterloo, Des Moines, Urbandale, Dubuque, Cedar Rapids
                      WI: Madison, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Milwaukee
                      MO: St Louis, Independence, Kansas City
                      IL: Moline, Rockford, Rosemont, Bloomington, Chicago
                      MI: Kalamazoo, Muskegon, Grand Rapids, Plymouth, Saginaw, Flint, Detroit
                      OH: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Columbus, Youngstown
                      IN: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne
                      PA (Apparently): Johnstown, Reading, Allentown, Hershey, Wilke-Barre, Erie, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia
                      WV: Wheeling

                      Notes:
                      Strike through - too small
                      underlined - too big
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                      • #86
                        Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                        Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                        Here is my breakdown of neutral venues:
                        CO: Denver, Loveland
                        ND: Fargo
                        SD: Sioux Falls, Rapid City
                        NE: Omaha, Ralston, Lincoln, Kearney
                        MN: St Paul, Theif River Falls, Minneapolis
                        IA: Sioux City, Waterloo, Des Moines, Urbandale, Dubuque, Cedar Rapids
                        WI: Madison, Green Bay, Milwaukee, Milwaukee
                        MO: St Louis, Independence, Kansas City
                        IL: Moline, Rockford, Rosemont, Bloomington, Chicago
                        MI: Kalamazoo, Muskegon, Grand Rapids, Plymouth, Saginaw, Flint, Detroit
                        OH: Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Columbus, Youngstown
                        IN: Indianapolis, Fort Wayne
                        PA (Apparently): Johnstown, Reading, Allentown, Hershey, Wilke-Barre, Erie, Pittsburgh, Philadelphia
                        WV: Wheeling

                        Notes:
                        Strike through - too small
                        underlined - too big
                        2 potential sites in Indianapolis. Bankers Life Fieldhouse, downtown, @ 14,000 seats. Indiana Farmers Coliseum, State Fair Grounds, @ 6300 seats.
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                        • #87
                          Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                          Originally posted by Slap Shot View Post
                          This might be a dumb question/suggestion, but why not remove schools as eligible hosts in the bidding process altogether and instead limit it to the venues themselves and/or promoters? Not enough money to be made already to garner more attention than is currently generated?
                          It's not a dumb question, but I don't think this line of inquiry leads to any sort of solution. Coaches, players and fans don't care who drafts the bids or who counts the gate receipts. Someone might object to the presence of the "home" PA Announcer, but that's about it. The dilemma is still going to be the same. Due to the geography of the West, good attendance numbers usually require a partisan crowd -- no matter who's serving as the maître de.

                          Suppose you did cut the schools out of the bidding process and the support roles. At present, most of those functions are being performed by people on university salaries. Push those costs on the venues/promoters, and bidding becomes even less attractive.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by pgb-ohio View Post
                            Someone might object to the presence of the "home" PA Announcer, but that's about it.
                            For a NCAA playoff game, the PA announcer must by neutral. That includes his voice level, excitement, and inflection. The NCAA insists on this, and will instruct the announcer, especially if they are usually related to a particular school or are the home announcer (like in D3).

                            For an example of what kind happen if you don't follow these rules, see Middlebury announcer the last time that school hosted the D3 national championship.
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                            • #89
                              Re: NCAA Hockey Administrators to western fans: Drop Dead

                              Originally posted by Russell Jaslow View Post
                              For a NCAA playoff game, the PA announcer must by neutral. That includes his voice level, excitement, and inflection. The NCAA insists on this, and will instruct the announcer, especially if they are usually related to a particular school or are the home announcer (like in D3).

                              For an example of what kind happen if you don't follow these rules, see Middlebury announcer the last time that school hosted the D3 national championship.
                              Well, help us out.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Happy View Post
                                It wasn't him. It was someone else. Maybe it was at Norwich...

                                I know it was when Middlebury played Norwich. I'm trying to remember which location it was at. But, I'm leaning towards Norwich now.
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