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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
    That click bait tweet from Big Game Boomer made me wonder what your ranking say.
    I must have missed it. I assume they must have put together a top program's ranking?

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    That click bait tweet from Big Game Boomer made me wonder what your ranking say.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post

    Any chance you'd like to update these?
    I've really let this thread go...but the interest seemed to dip doing it every season. However, for you, I will post the 2021-2022 end of season rankings this weekend. : p

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    I haven't crunched the numbers yet for this season, but a few tidbits before tonight's game:

    - The race for #1 between North Dakota and Michigan will be extremely close...likely within 1-2 points. It could come down to who wins the game tonight.

    - Denver likely jumps Minnesota and into the #3 spot with a win tonight. A loss and the Pioneers likely remain at #4.

    - Minnesota State is going to make a nice jump regardless. However, with a win they will likely sneak in (or be just on the cusp) of the top-25.
    Any chance you'd like to update these?

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    I haven't crunched the numbers yet for this season, but a few tidbits before tonight's game:

    - The race for #1 between North Dakota and Michigan will be extremely close...likely within 1-2 points. It could come down to who wins the game tonight.

    - Denver likely jumps Minnesota and into the #3 spot with a win tonight. A loss and the Pioneers likely remain at #4.

    - Minnesota State is going to make a nice jump regardless. However, with a win they will likely sneak in (or be just on the cusp) of the top-25.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Just wanted to bump this thread up a bit.

    I never posted the end of seasons rankings from the 2020-2021 season, so I will do my best to make sure to post the end of season rankings this year. Maybe not posting every year will build a bit more excitement in the thread? I guess we will see.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    First off, Congratulations to Massachusetts for capturing their program's first National Championship! The Minutemen are a very deserving champion and show what any program can do if they get the right leadership, character, and talent in place. I anticipate UMASS will make another pretty significant leap up in the rankings.

    Second, as we have a first time champion, it will take a bit longer to put together the data than usual (plus I have a 7-day trial starting at the end of the month), so I anticipate having the rankings closer to late-May, early-June.

    Third, I will probably just do a batch release (perhaps in ~10 team bursts) this year. I just simply don't have sufficient time right now to coordinate and bring together the more detailed breakdowns/writeups each year. I'll try to do that about every 5 years or so.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Thought that I would put together a quick post to: (1) boost this thread up so I can find it easier; and (2) give a general overview on how the Frozen Four could shake up the rankings.

    With the addition of Long Island, we're now at 61 teams...so Bentley (likely) won't be last.

    As for the Frozen Four's impact, I'm not sure if Minnesota Duluth can jump Michigan State for the #8 spot with a title...but it will be close.

    Mankato probably stands to make the biggest leap with a title, and SCSU or UMass could conceivably jump into the top 25 if they were to win it all. In other words, Union could wind up at #26 after this season!

    Also, for those that track such things, if SCSU, UMass, or Mankato win their first title, that program's w-l-t records would be added into the record against previous champions portion of the formula. That generally benefits their conference mates (and to a lesser extent, former conference mates). So, Hockey East teams would likely benefit if the Minutemen captured the title. NCHC teams would see a boost (as well as probably some of SCSU's old WCHA rivals) if the Huskies won it all. WCHA teams (and similar to SCSU, some of Mankato's old WCHA rivals) would probably see a rise if the Mavericks win it all.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
    little late, but....

    not withstanding the overall rank, how did bc squeeze ahead of bu in the 2018-19 rank?

    bu was 2 games under .500, bc was 8
    bu had a -5 goal differential, bc -20
    bc also was oh-fer in occ games Mookie believes. that hadda hurt, no?

    so reading here, bc was 58th in points rank for the year with -0.495 and bu was 60th (!!!!) with -1.4849

    hmmmmmmm
    Without doing a deep dive into the numbers, I would guess it came down to (in no particular order): (1) BC went 1-0-1 against BU (the Terriers scored a whopping one goal in the series); (2) BC went to the Hockey East Championship Game (BU lost in the Semis); (3) BC had an All-American (BU did not); and (4) BC went 6-7-1 against former champions (BU went 2-6-3).

    Also, I don't recall off the top of my head whether there were any errors that I caught for BU that had an adverse effect on their overall score (YOY overall score is how I calculate the yearly changes). Losing 1.4849 points is pretty high given BU's season, so it could very well have been an error that was corrected after last year that caused them to drop as such.

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  • mookie1995
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    little late, but....

    not withstanding the overall rank, how did bc squeeze ahead of bu in the 2018-19 rank?

    bu was 2 games under .500, bc was 8
    bu had a -5 goal differential, bc -20
    bc also was oh-fer in occ games Mookie believes. that hadda hurt, no?

    so reading here, bc was 58th in points rank for the year with -0.495 and bu was 60th (!!!!) with -1.4849

    hmmmmmmm

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  • Terry Switzer
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Up to 11 as they say in Spinal tap. Great Movie.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Terry Switzer View Post
    Jeff Sauer won a National Championship his first year a Wisconsin.
    Yep. After being a head coach for a dozen seasons.

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  • Terry Switzer
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Jeff Sauer won a National Championship his first year a Wisconsin.

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  • Snively65
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    Well, I was able to input the data from this season into the formula. Obviously, no huge risers/fallers (points wise) given the lack of Conference Tournaments and the NCAA Tournament, but still some changes. I will probably just post the entire list at once, but I'll give it a few weeks.
    And, I still want to get you the HEA decadal writeups pre-2019/2020 season, FS23.

    Also, a shout out to you in this thread for the really fine postseason tournament simulations that you ran on the other thread, which really helped us get through part of this diffucult time.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Well, I was able to input the data from this season into the formula. Obviously, no huge risers/fallers (points wise) given the lack of Conference Tournaments and the NCAA Tournament, but still some changes. I will probably just post the entire list at once, but I'll give it a few weeks.

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