The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

[First Time, Long Time]

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

Go measure your dick elsewhere.

[Happy]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Was I happy when Marv Peterson took the job at Tech? Yes.

Was I happy with the program's turnaround when he was there? Yes

Was I disappointed when Marv left to go back to Skunktown? Yes

Was I happy with the hiring of Joe Shawhan to replace Marv? At the time I didn't know what to expect. Now I am very happy with Dr. Sanregret's choice.

Do I think the program is better poised to have success in the future with Joe instead of Marv? Yes

And finally, am I mad that Marv left? Absolutely not.

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[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Alright...now to the top half, starting with #30-26:

#30 - Northeastern Huskies
Points: 33.4983
Conference: Hockey East
2017-2018 Record: 23-10-5 Overall; 15-6-3 Conference (2nd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East Semifinals; NCAA Northeast Regional Semifinalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 3.1711 Points (Rank: 8)
5-year Total: 7.5173 Points (Rank: 12)

#29 - Ferris State Bulldogs
Points: 36.5212
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 14-23-1 Overall; 11-16-1 Conference (6th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1421 Points (Rank: 31)
5-year Total: 3.8765 Points (Rank: 23)

#28 - Dartmouth Big Green
Points: 40.7458
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 16-17-2 Overall; 11-10-1 Conference (T5th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1914 Points (Rank: 26)
5-year Total: 1.0985 Points (Rank: 38)

#27 - Quinnipiac Bobcats
Points: 44.5887
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 16-18-4 Overall; 9-11-2 Conference (9th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4978 Points (Rank: 59)
5-year Total: 19.3869 Points (Rank: 8)

#26 - Miami Redhawks
Points: 49.3171
Conference: NCHC
2017-2018 Record: 12-20-5 Overall; 6-14-4 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in NCHC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1506 Points (Rank: 30)
5-year Total: 2.62 Points (Rank: 27)

[gfmorris]

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#27 - Quinnipiac Bobcats
Points: 44.5887
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 16-18-4 Overall; 9-11-2 Conference (9th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4978 Points (Rank: 59)
5-year Total: 19.3869 Points (Rank: 8)

Being second-worst nationally in your points margin while still being 8th overall over five years is a really neat trick.

GFM

[MarkEagleUSA]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

Being second-worst nationally in your points margin while still being 8th overall over five years is a really neat trick.

GFM

You could say we had the suck last season...

[Ralph Baer]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

You could say we had the suck last season...

I wonder if RPI was #60 last year. We certainly sucked more than you did, as did SLU.

[LynahFan]

You could say we had the suck last season...

16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.

Just the second worst point change from last season...not necessarily the second worst performance in the country. It's also possible that I mis-entered the data in a previous season that was not caught until this season (or, that I mis-entered the data this season, which will be caught next season). I really prefer the longer trends (5-year, and next year I will be able to start doing a 10-year trend) to show how a program ranks over a period of time...but I include the one-year change for people who like to see the more immediate impacts of a season.

Also, teams that have more points are more susceptible to larger negative seasons. For example, if both Denver and Arizona State went 0-36, DU would lose a lot more points than the Sun Devils.

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

#25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Points: 62.6519
Conference: Big Ten
2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

#24 - Union Dutchmen
Points: 64.1448
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

#23 - St. Lawrence Saints
Points: 68.4998
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

#22 - Yale Bulldogs
Points: 76.2993
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

#21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
Points: 82.0473
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)

[MissThundercat]

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And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

#25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
Points: 62.6519
Conference: Big Ten
2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

#24 - Union Dutchmen
Points: 64.1448
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

#23 - St. Lawrence Saints
Points: 68.4998
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

#22 - Yale Bulldogs
Points: 76.2993
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

#21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
Points: 82.0473
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)

Wonder how much an NCAA tournament berth and WCHA championship next year would bump NMU up..

[D2D]

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Wonder how much an NCAA tournament berth and WCHA championship next year would bump NMU up..

Notre Dame has the greatest potential for moving up, IMO.

[Ralph Baer]

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SLU was #60 and QU #59, and I thought that it was impossible to do worse than RPI last year. I wonder if the ECAC swept the bottom 3.

[Snively65]

SLU was #60 and QU #59, and I thought that it was impossible to do worse than RPI last year. I wonder if the ECAC swept the bottom 3.

Should find out soon?

[Fighting Sioux 23]

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And we begin the final third, here are #20-16:

#20 - Bowling Green Falcons
Points: 82.4437
Conference: WCHA
2017-2018 Record: 23-12-6 Overall; 17-6-5 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Semifinals; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.9886 Points (Rank: 17)
5-year Total: 1.9733 Points (Rank: 29)

#19 - Providence Friars
Points: 86.2489
Conference: Hockey East
2017-2018 Record: 24-12-4 Overall; 13-7-4 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East Championship; NCAA East Regional Finalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 3.1415 Points (Rank: 9)
5-year Total: 37.5636 Points (Rank: 5)

#18 - New Hampshire Wildcats
Points: 88.4274
Conference: Hockey East
2017-2018 Record: 10-20-6 Overall; 5-14-5 Conference (11th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.2944 Points (Rank: 53)
5-year Total: 4.8323 Points (Rank: 20)

#17 - Rensselaer Engineers
Points: 100.2667
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 6-27-4 Overall; 4-16-2 Conference (11th)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4563 Points (Rank: 58)
5-year Total: -4.1054 Points (Rank: 60*)

#16 - Clarkson Golden Knights
Points: 131.0266
Conference: ECAC
2017-2018 Record: 23-11-6 Overall; 12-5-5 Conference (3rd)
2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Championship; NCAA East Regional Semifinalist
Point Difference from 2016-2017: 1.8115 Points (Rank: 12)
5-year Total: 3.0071 Points (Rank: 25)

*There was a data entry correction following the 2014-2015 season for RPI (I believe I had transposed their NCAA Tournament win-loss-tie record) that resulted in about a 3-4 point loss. The Engineers are still probably down a bit over the past 5 seasons, but more likely along the lines of a -1 to -1.5...which would still probably put them in the bottom 2-3 in the country.

[Ralph Baer]

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*There was a data entry correction following the 2014-2015 season for RPI (I believe I had transposed their NCAA Tournament win-loss-tie record) that resulted in about a 3-4 point loss. The Engineers are still probably down a bit over the past 5 seasons, but more likely along the lines of a -1 to -1.5...which would still probably put them in the bottom 2-3 in the country.

As usual, I am confused. RPI's historic NCAA Tournament record is in the red, so if you transpose it, I would expect them to get more, not fewer points.