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  • Ralph Baer
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    SLU was #60 and QU #59, and I thought that it was impossible to do worse than RPI last year. I wonder if the ECAC swept the bottom 3.

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  • D2D
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by MissThundercat View Post
    Wonder how much an NCAA tournament berth and WCHA championship next year would bump NMU up..
    Notre Dame has the greatest potential for moving up, IMO.

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  • MissThundercat
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

    #25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
    Points: 62.6519
    Conference: Big Ten
    2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
    2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
    5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

    #24 - Union Dutchmen
    Points: 64.1448
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
    5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

    #23 - St. Lawrence Saints
    Points: 68.4998
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
    5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

    #22 - Yale Bulldogs
    Points: 76.2993
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
    5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

    #21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
    Points: 82.0473
    Conference: WCHA
    2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
    5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)
    Wonder how much an NCAA tournament berth and WCHA championship next year would bump NMU up..

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    And rounding out the middle-third, #25-21:

    #25 - Notre Dame Fighting Irish
    Points: 62.6519
    Conference: Big Ten
    2017-2018 Record: 28-10-2 Overall; 17-6-1 Conference (1st)
    2017-2018 Results: Big Ten Regular Season Champion; Big Ten Tournament Champions; NCAA National Runner-up
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 16.9766 Points (Rank: 2)
    5-year Total: 22.487 Points (Rank: 7)

    #24 - Union Dutchmen
    Points: 64.1448
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 21-15-2 Overall; 16-5-1 Conference (2nd)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.5349 Points (Rank: 22)
    5-year Total: 6.8456 Points (Rank: 14)

    #23 - St. Lawrence Saints
    Points: 68.4998
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 8-27-2 Overall; 3-18-1 Conference (12th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.6494 Points (Rank: 60)
    5-year Total: 1.1534 Points (Rank: 35)

    #22 - Yale Bulldogs
    Points: 76.2993
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 15-15-1 Overall; 10-11-1 Conference (8th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC First Round; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1857 Points (Rank: 27)
    5-year Total: 2.1581 Points (Rank: 28)

    #21 - Northern Michigan Wildcats
    Points: 82.0473
    Conference: WCHA
    2017-2018 Record: 25-15-3 Overall; 19-7-2 Conference (8th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Championship; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.8686 Points (Rank: 18)
    5-year Total: 1.1375 Points (Rank: 37)

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by LynahFan View Post
    16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.
    Just the second worst point change from last season...not necessarily the second worst performance in the country. It's also possible that I mis-entered the data in a previous season that was not caught until this season (or, that I mis-entered the data this season, which will be caught next season). I really prefer the longer trends (5-year, and next year I will be able to start doing a 10-year trend) to show how a program ranks over a period of time...but I include the one-year change for people who like to see the more immediate impacts of a season.

    Also, teams that have more points are more susceptible to larger negative seasons. For example, if both Denver and Arizona State went 0-36, DU would lose a lot more points than the Sun Devils.

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  • LynahFan
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    Originally posted by MarkEagleUSA View Post
    You could say we had the suck last season...
    16-8-4 isn't so terrible. There must have been dozens of teams with worse records. I haven't reviewed the methodology here in a while - I'm genuinely curious how this could be considered the 2nd worst performance in the entire NCAA.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by MarkEagleUSA View Post
    You could say we had the suck last season...
    I wonder if RPI was #60 last year. We certainly sucked more than you did, as did SLU.

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  • MarkEagleUSA
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by gfmorris View Post
    Being second-worst nationally in your points margin while still being 8th overall over five years is a really neat trick.

    GFM
    You could say we had the suck last season...

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  • gfmorris
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
    #27 - Quinnipiac Bobcats
    Points: 44.5887
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 16-18-4 Overall; 9-11-2 Conference (9th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4978 Points (Rank: 59)
    5-year Total: 19.3869 Points (Rank: 8)
    Being second-worst nationally in your points margin while still being 8th overall over five years is a really neat trick.

    GFM

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Alright...now to the top half, starting with #30-26:

    #30 - Northeastern Huskies
    Points: 33.4983
    Conference: Hockey East
    2017-2018 Record: 23-10-5 Overall; 15-6-3 Conference (2nd)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in Hockey East Semifinals; NCAA Northeast Regional Semifinalist
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 3.1711 Points (Rank: 8)
    5-year Total: 7.5173 Points (Rank: 12)

    #29 - Ferris State Bulldogs
    Points: 36.5212
    Conference: WCHA
    2017-2018 Record: 14-23-1 Overall; 11-16-1 Conference (6th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in WCHA Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1421 Points (Rank: 31)
    5-year Total: 3.8765 Points (Rank: 23)

    #28 - Dartmouth Big Green
    Points: 40.7458
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 16-17-2 Overall; 11-10-1 Conference (T5th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1914 Points (Rank: 26)
    5-year Total: 1.0985 Points (Rank: 38)

    #27 - Quinnipiac Bobcats
    Points: 44.5887
    Conference: ECAC
    2017-2018 Record: 16-18-4 Overall; 9-11-2 Conference (9th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in ECAC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: -0.4978 Points (Rank: 59)
    5-year Total: 19.3869 Points (Rank: 8)

    #26 - Miami Redhawks
    Points: 49.3171
    Conference: NCHC
    2017-2018 Record: 12-20-5 Overall; 6-14-4 Conference (8th)
    2017-2018 Results: Lost in NCHC Quarterfinal; Missed NCAA Tournament
    Point Difference from 2016-2017: 0.1506 Points (Rank: 30)
    5-year Total: 2.62 Points (Rank: 27)

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  • Happy
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    Originally posted by MTUHuskies View Post
    Was I happy when Marv Peterson took the job at Tech? Yes.

    Was I happy with the program's turnaround when he was there? Yes

    Was I disappointed when Marv left to go back to Skunktown? Yes

    Was I happy with the hiring of Joe Shawhan to replace Marv? At the time I didn't know what to expect. Now I am very happy with Dr. Sanregret's choice.

    Do I think the program is better poised to have success in the future with Joe instead of Marv? Yes

    And finally, am I mad that Marv left? Absolutely not.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

    I am Happy, and I approve this message. At least you guys don't have those horrible ugly helmets.

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  • First Time, Long Time
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    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.
    Go measure your dick elsewhere.

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  • UMICH
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by MTUHuskies View Post
    Was I happy when Marv Peterson took the job at Tech? Yes.

    Was I happy with the program's turnaround when he was there? Yes

    Was I disappointed when Marv left to go back to Skunktown? Yes

    Was I happy with the hiring of Joe Shawhan to replace Marv? At the time I didn't know what to expect. Now I am very happy with Dr. Sanregret's choice.

    Do I think the program is better poised to have success in the future with Joe instead of Marv? Yes

    And finally, am I mad that Marv left? Absolutely not.

    Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk
    Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

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  • HHound
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    Re: The Greatest Programs of All-Time: #1 - #60

    Originally posted by mookie1995 View Post
    bentley should be much higher due to all the wins they have over northeastern (best team since sliced bread!!)
    Most of those wins and ties took place in the JAR - not much room to operate. Now that they have a real rink, they are off our schedule. Do the terriers dare to take the on in Waltham??

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  • Slap Shot
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    With PSU 24th ranked the past 5 years and OSU 15th it will be interesting to see if they will maintain the momentum and keep trending up the next few years.

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