Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

[Mike Rane]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

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[PCM]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

Get with the times, Swami.

I'm the one not with the times...not that anyone's surprised by that.

[The Rube]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

Grabbing one of Bertagna's points:



They can't believe the ref called it.

That tells me that the ref isn't being consistent.

No consistency ==> No control ==> No credibility and no professionalism.

Talking with some refs in the past couple seasons, and asking about a couple calls and why they called it as such, I remember one instance where some thought it was a CFB, and others thought it was a simple roughing (it was called roughing). The reason? The victim's head was up, not down.

So, taking from that, along with some of the other reasons they called/didn't call a penalty, something that simple/minute was the difference in a player being ejected or serving two minutes.

Now, repeat those minute differences for 60 minutes, along with the speed of the game, the style of play (a UND/MN series is more physical than say, a Tech/SCSU game), etc, inconsistency becomes more apparent.

I'm not defending the refs 100%, because they do make mistakes, they are human after all, but many (if not most) have legitimate reasons for calling what they call most of the time.

[dggoddard]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

One more mini-rant/observation:

Don't forget that it was on the heels of DU's national championship that the NCAA called for an end to interference and an end to situational officiating. (It was criticism of the NCAA's action that caused Bertagna to write his column.)

So I guess I shouldn't be surprised that a Disciple of Gwoz would prefer "the perception of fairness" to true fairness.

Please explain why "home" teams get one extra power play on average per game. NHL, WCHA, Major Juniors, it doesn't matter. The crowds influence the referees and they make calls accordingly.

You really need to start reading some hockey referee blogs. All the things that Swami talks about are out there. The great referees let the game dictate their style of refereeing and the make adjustments.

When you compared a baseball strike zone to any given hockey play you unwittingly proved Swami's point. A strike zone is a two dimensional situation, while on any given moment on the ice there are two or more players to watch, a puck, multiple sticks, blue lines, goal lines & goal creases to keep track of. Plus every single player out there is trying to "cheat" the rules to the degree that they can get away with it.

From The Hockey Referee Blog

"I am just saying it is human nature, and if you try to combat this by being a 100% "Book" Referee, you will not go very far. "Book" referees are the strict disciplinarians who call everything right by the book. These guys are told they have "no feel" for the game. I agree. A "Book" Referee can be good...but...he will never be great."

[Goon]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

I wonder what the over and under of Gwoz doing a dasher dance this weekend? Maybe we will see Gwoz stroll across the ice this weekend.

Also, I would love to see Todd Anderson ref these weekend's games, it only seems fitting. Gwoz seems to love Anderson’s officiating and when ever the two are together it does play out in some good theater.

If Anderson refs there will be both a dasher dance or two and a stroll across the ice and your classic Donnybrook...

[SiouxTechie]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

I forgot to put in my daily "Go Sioux"

[The Sicatoka]

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dgoddard: Using a blog as a definitive reference? I thought Wikipedia was the gold-standard.

Do refs see everything that happens on the ice? No. Can't. They're human.

But why was a second ref put out onto the college ice? To see more, and not just to observe, analyze, consider, put into context, and ponder the relativity of, but to call.

Once you start letting "relativism" into the officiating, how will we know when it was a "judgement call" or if someone had ten C-notes on it with "Vinny Da Book" down on the corner? (See: N.B.A.)

[Dirty]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

dgoddard: Using a blog as a definitive reference? I thought Wikipedia was the gold-standard.

I don't see a problem with this.

Sioux Split. Gwoz does the Charleston.

[dggoddard]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

dgoddard: Using a blog as a definitive reference? I thought Wikipedia was the gold-standard.

Do refs see everything that happens on the ice? No. Can't. They're human.

But why was a second ref put out onto the college ice? To see more, and not just to observe, analyze, consider, put into context, and ponder the relativity of, but to call.

Once you start letting "relativism" into the officiating, how will we know when it was a "judgement call" or if someone had ten C-notes on it with "Vinny Da Book" down on the corner? (See: N.B.A.)

The second ref should slow down the "make up calls." But lets face it, there are certain times in a game when most fans will say, "The next call will be on Team X" and be right 90% of the time.

All these WCHA refs in the offensive zone sure clogs things up. Refs are getting hit with pucks and running into players all the time this season. Last weekend in Sconnie a DU player on a breakaway was run into by a ref. They should have thrown the ref in the Penalty Box for interference.

DU Sweeps: Sioux supporters adhere to new "Fan Code Of Conduct"

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

I have a solution for too many zebras on the ice, but it involves ... {gasp! <-- that's for dramatic effect} ... technology.

[Dirty]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

DU Sweeps: Sioux supporters adhere to new "Fan Code Of Conduct"

Ha. I don't adhere to the so-called "wearing pants in public rule", so I fail to see why I should adhere to this code of conduct crap.

Sioux Split. Gwoz Sambas.

[Sloe Gin]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

Question: if George takes a spill while he's doing the cha-cha on the ice, if another coach jumps off the bench to help him up, does that coach get kicked out too?

[The Sicatoka]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

Question: if George takes a spill while he's doing the cha-cha on the ice, if another coach jumps off the bench to help him up, does that coach get kicked out too?

Was George dancing alone or with a partner?
With a partner would make the one coming off the bench third one in.

[vizoroo]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

I really hate to do this during the week when DU plays the fighting sue, i.e. say something nice about North Dakota.

But, I just read the article in SI online about the Lamoureux clan. One thing I gleaned was that Mom, Linda, may be the best athlete of them all. Pretty amazing family.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...06/1/index.htm

[du78]

Re: Denver at North Dakota: Big Rivalry, Big Weekend

I hear "Dancing With The Stars" has requested DG's video from last season's march across the ice to see if Gwoz is worthy enough to be on next season. Would be a great way to bring more publicity to DU and college hockey.

DU Game Notes as well as links to UND Game Notes and WCHA Weekly Release.