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  • davyd83
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    Originally posted by AKSWF View Post
    Don't break the mold I guess.
    What is the mold?

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  • AKSWF
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by Squarebanks View Post
    Dave Shyiak the leading candidate at NMU?
    Originally posted by John J. MacInnes View Post
    Pretty widely accepted​ as fact. He has rehabbed his image a bit with WMU, and always has a feel-good factor at Northern.
    Don't break the mold I guess.

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  • gfmorris
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by beaverhockeyfan View Post
    Congrats to Beaver Senior Brendan Harms on being named the 2017 Senior CLASS Award winner!

    http://www.bsubeavers.com/mhockey/ne...r-class-award/
    That's awesome.

    GFM

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  • John J. MacInnes
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    Originally posted by Squarebanks View Post
    Dave Shyiak the leading candidate at NMU?
    Pretty widely accepted​ as fact. He has rehabbed his image a bit with WMU, and always has a feel-good factor at Northern.

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  • Squarebanks
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Dave Shyiak the leading candidate at NMU?

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  • beaverhockeyfan
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Congrats to Beaver Senior Brendan Harms on being named the 2017 Senior CLASS Award winner!

    http://www.bsubeavers.com/mhockey/ne...r-class-award/
    Last edited by beaverhockeyfan; 04-07-2017, 02:23 PM.

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by aparch View Post
    CCHA had two different stints with 11 teams: 1996-1999 and 2010-2013. They also went 1984-1992 with nine teams.

    From what I have looked up, for the 1996-1999 years, the CCHA played a mix of full weekend series and split weekends so each team played 30 league games.

    Obviously the WCHA isn't going to increase to 30 league games.

    The schedule is going to be unbalanced no matter what. Who gives a sh**? Not unless we cut to eight teams like the NCHC and play each other four times a year.
    The NCHC doesn't even do that...they play 24 games...the issue with the 11 team schedule is the unbalanced nature of the extra designated rival. In my example, if one of UAA, UA_, ASU does well in their 8 games against the other two, there is a clear advantage there...thankfully for the other 8 teams, I didn't break any of them into a complete set where all their rivals are with each other...Thats where the issue comes. All the other teams to have one perceived good team and one perceived bad team...and if we stick to 8 teams making playoffs, that unbalance could be perceived as unfair in determining who wins home ice, who gets to go on the road and who stays home because someone got to play the bad teams way more than the good ones, etc. It just gets exaggerated when you add more teams and less of the schedule is about rotating.

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  • aparch
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    Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
    The WCHA won't go to single game series for one simple reason - travel costs. You can get away with split weeks out East (play team X Friday, play team Y Saturday) because the teams are what, six city blocks apart? If someone is making a trip to play team X in the WCHA, they are going to play two games before they leave town. Having 11 teams just gives you a really unbalanced schedule or an extremely long rotation before everything is "fair" from a scheduling stand point.
    Ryan J
    CCHA had two different stints with 11 teams: 1996-1999 and 2010-2013. They also went 1984-1992 with nine teams.

    From what I have looked up, for the 1996-1999 years, the CCHA played a mix of full weekend series and split weekends so each team played 30 league games.

    Obviously the WCHA isn't going to increase to 30 league games.

    The schedule is going to be unbalanced no matter what. Who gives a sh**? Not unless we cut to eight teams like the NCHC and play each other four times a year.

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  • Shirtless Guy
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View Post
    The WCHA won't go to single game series for one simple reason - travel costs. You can get away with split weeks out East (play team X Friday, play team Y Saturday) because the teams are what, six city blocks apart? If someone is making a trip to play team X in the WCHA, they are going to play two games before they leave town. Having 11 teams just gives you a really unbalanced schedule or an extremely long rotation before everything is "fair" from a scheduling stand point.
    Ryan J
    It would be unbalanced, but I remember working our a rotation years ago when there was talk of adding BSU to the old 10-team WCHA.

    Each team would have two designated rivals that they play 4x each year and the rest of the schedule would rotate over 8 years, versus the 4 years now...

    For an 11-team WCHA with current teams these would make sense for rivals:

    ASU: UAA, UA_
    UAA: UA_, ASU
    UA_: UAA, ASU
    UAH: BGSU, BSU
    BGSU: UAH, FSU
    BSU: MSU, UAH
    FSU: BGSU, LSSU
    LSSU: NMU, FSU
    MSU: BSU, MTU
    MTU: NMU, MSU
    NMU: MTU, LSSU
    Last edited by Shirtless Guy; 04-07-2017, 01:42 PM.

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  • JohnsonsJerseys
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by Revs89.2 View Post
    If this were to happen and you are an 11 team league, it opens many additional opportunities. Are there 3-game series and some 2? A bunch of 4's (home and home) and a mix of 2 games series? Do the playoffs stay at 8? Although I guess the Alaska situation plays into it as well. Naples will be interesting to see what comes out of there.
    The WCHA won't go to single game series for one simple reason - travel costs. You can get away with split weeks out East (play team X Friday, play team Y Saturday) because the teams are what, six city blocks apart? If someone is making a trip to play team X in the WCHA, they are going to play two games before they leave town. Having 11 teams just gives you a really unbalanced schedule or an extremely long rotation before everything is "fair" from a scheduling stand point.
    Ryan J

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  • JohnsonsJerseys
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    I don't see ASU getting into a conference until they are moving dirt at their new rink site. Since there isn't even a valid proposal on the table anymore, I don't see ASU being a conference member in the next two seasons. Best they could hope for at this point is some sort of non-conference scheduling agreement.
    Ryan J

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  • gfmorris
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    As the fan of a team in a former league with a 20-game league schedule, I think going below 28 is a fool's game that you'll lose every time. Even the B1G having a small schedule just hasn't opened up the NC slate. But then I should keep putting fingers to a keyboard on 24 first...

    GFM

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  • beaverhockeyfan
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    I am kind of torn on the whole 24 game schedule. Part of me would love to see it just because it would open up some dates to try and get SCSU and Minnesota on the Beavers' schedule. You could then "revive" the North Star College Cup and just have it as a round robin schedule with Bemidji, Mankato, Minnesota, Minnesota-Duluth and St. Cloud. Of course the two games that count between Bemidji and Mankato would have to be stated ahead of time, but I think that would be interesting.

    The down side of a 24 game schedule is still the fact you have to find willing dance partners. As stated by others, would WCHA teams get locked into 2 for 1 deals? Would we just see a bunch of non-conference games between conference opponents? I don't think any of the fans want to see that and those types of games would do very little for the Pairwise Rankings.

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  • Revs89.2
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    Re: WCHA offseason thread 2017.

    Originally posted by RapidsCity View Post
    I love the playoff with teams being eliminated. No participation ribbons here!
    I agree and like the new on-campus formats. MTU looked great during the championship game.

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  • RapidsCity
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    Originally posted by giwan View Post
    Playoff should stay at 8, you get home ice, you want in earn it. The mix of games can vary as need be
    I love the playoff with teams being eliminated. No participation ribbons here!

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