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Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post
This makes sense. Have a "Western Belt" (for the NCHC/B1G/CCHA and any independents west of the Alleghanies (currently, ASU/UAH/UAA/UAF)) and an "Eastern Belt" (for Hockey East/ECAC/Atlantic and any independents east of the Alleghanies(currently, LIU)). Scrap the New England Belt.Last edited by Ralph Baer; 03-28-2021, 12:35 PM.
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Sunday update
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell 2021-22 The Belt Alt 3x3 Minnesota State St. Cloud State 04/08/2021 The Belt Alt SO Massachusetts Minnesota Duluth 04/08/2021 AHC Belt American International 2021-22 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 ECAC Belt Cornell 2021-22 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22 HEA Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth NCAA Tourney at earliest WCHA Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 Ivy Belt Cornell 2021-22 New England Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22 Minnesota Belt Minnesota State St. Cloud State 04/08/2021 New York Belt Cornell 2021-22 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 D II P u Alt SO American International 2021-22 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22 Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
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Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
I can go for that if you include the six leagues completely as you have them. That is even though AF is in the west, it is eligible for the Eastern Belt. I would start them next year with the national championship team getting the appropriate Belt and the last team standing from the other region getting the other one. There is a question if UAH is really a western team if it is an independent.
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Thursday update
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell 2021-22 The Belt Alt 3x3 St. Cloud State Massachusetts 04/10/2021 The Belt Alt SO Massachusetts St. Cloud State 04/10/2021 AHC Belt American International 2021-22 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 ECAC Belt Cornell 2021-22 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22 HEA Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth NCAA Tourney at earliest Ivy Belt Cornell 2021-22 Eastern Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Western Belt St. Cloud State 2021-22 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud State 2021-22 New York Belt Cornell 2021-22 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 D II P u Alt SO American International 2021-22 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22 Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
I have started Eastern and Western Belts as discussed. The Eastern Belt replaces the New England Belt. I have also renamed the WCHA as the CCHA Belt. It absorbs the old CCHA Belt which LSSU also had.Last edited by Ralph Baer; 04-09-2021, 02:59 AM.
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Saturday update
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell 2021-22 The Alt Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 AHC Belt American International 2021-22 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 ECAC Belt Cornell 2021-22 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22 HEA Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth 2021-22 Ivy Belt Cornell 2021-22 Eastern Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Western Belt St. Cloud 2021-22 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts 2021-22 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud 2021-22 New York Belt Cornell 2021-22 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22 D II P u Alt SO American International 2021-22 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22 Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
The two Alternate Belts have become one.
I have started Eastern and Western Belts as discussed. The Eastern Belt replaces the New England Belt. I have also renamed the WCHA as the CCHA Belt. It absorbed the old CCHA Belt which LSSU also had.
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I have filled in the next opponent, when known, from the schedule spread sheet. Any corrections?
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell Alaska 10/29/2021 The Alt Belt Massachusetts Minnesota State 10/02/2021 AHC Belt American International Army 10/21/2021 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State St. Thomas 10/15/2021 ECAC Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22 HEA Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth 2021-22 Ivy Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 Eastern Belt Massachusetts American International 10/15/2021 Western Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 New York Belt Cornell Union 11/12/2021 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State Michigan Tech 11/05/2021 D II P u Alt SO American International Bentley 11/19/2021 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021 Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021
Last edited by Ralph Baer; 07-21-2021, 10:42 AM.
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I think that i have everything except for Minnesota's next league game. I certainly appreciate any corrections.
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell Alaska 10/29/2021 The Alt Belt Massachusetts Minnesota State 10/02/2021 AHC Belt American International Army 10/21/2021 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State St. Thomas 10/15/2021 ECAC Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence Rensselaer 11/05/2021 HEA Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth Western Michigan 11/05/2021 Ivy Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 Eastern Belt Massachusetts American International 10/15/2021 Western Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac Yale 11/05/2021 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech Lake Superior State 11/05/2021 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 New York Belt Cornell Union 11/12/2021 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State Michigan Tech 11/05/2021 D II P u Alt SO American International Bentley 11/19/2021 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021 Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021
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Originally posted by Ralph Baer View PostI have filled in the next opponent, when known, from the schedule spread sheet. Any corrections?
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell Alaska 10/29/2021 The Alt Belt Massachusetts Minnesota State 10/02/2021 AHC Belt American International Army 10/21/2021 B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State St. Thomas 10/15/2021 ECAC Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22 HEA Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth 2021-22 Ivy Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 Eastern Belt Massachusetts American International 10/15/2021 Western Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 New York Belt Cornell Union 11/12/2021 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State Michigan Tech 11/05/2021 D II P u Alt SO American International Bentley 11/19/2021 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021 Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021
1. the CCHA is a "new" league, or
2. the CCHA is restarting with Mason Cup champion Notre Dame no longer in the league and therefore vacating the title,
the title would be vacant and the teams that play each other first would decide who starts with the belt. St. Thomas and NMU play the weekend of October 8-9, and that is the only conference matchup of the week.
But I concede that LSSU should keep the WCHA title in perpetuity
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Originally posted by potternmu View Post
I would argue that since
1. the CCHA is a "new" league, or
2. the CCHA is restarting with Mason Cup champion Notre Dame no longer in the league and therefore vacating the title,
the title would be vacant and the teams that play each other first would decide who starts with the belt. St. Thomas and NMU play the weekend of October 8-9, and that is the only conference matchup of the week.
But I concede that LSSU should keep the WCHA title in perpetuity
The fact that LSSU had both the WCHA Belt and the continuation of the old CCHA Belt which was contested by the teams who were in the CCHA when it folded resulted in the suggestion to give them the new CCHA Belt. You are correct that Notre Dame held the old CCHA Belt when the league folded.
What I didn't want to do is have a new CCHA Belt and also a WCHA Belt contested by the still-existing teams that were in that league last season. What I did removed that.
If others want to chime in on this some more, we can change things until the new season starts.
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With the B1G conference schedule released, all the next games are known. Any corrections?
Code:Current Holder Next Defense The Belt Cornell Alaska 10/29/2021 The Alt Belt Massachusetts Minnesota State 10/02/2021 AHC Belt American International Army 10/21/2021 B1G Belt Minnesota Notre Dame 10/29/2021 CCHA Belt Lake Superior State St. Thomas 10/15/2021 ECAC Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence Rensselaer 11/05/2021 HEA Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 NCHC Belt Minnesota Duluth Western Michigan 11/05/2021 Ivy Belt Cornell Harvard 11/05/2021 Eastern Belt Massachusetts American International 10/15/2021 Western Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac Yale 11/05/2021 Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts Merrimack 10/29/2021 Michigan Belt Michigan Tech Lake Superior State 11/05/2021 Minnesota Belt St. Cloud St. Thomas 10/02/2021 New York Belt Cornell Union 11/12/2021 D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State Michigan Tech 11/05/2021 D II P u Alt SO American International Bentley 11/19/2021 D III Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021 Play up Belt Rensselaer Union 10/29/2021
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Originally posted by John J. MacInnes View PostThis may require some research, but do you know offhand what school has the record of holding the most belts at one time and how many they held? Cornell and UMass with four right now is pretty impressive, especially at the same time as the other.
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