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**drshoen** · 07-27-2020, 01:53 PM

My opinion would be to transfer belts upon a win in 3x3 OT, since it's now an NCAA rule. For the sake of completeness, I would keep the current alternates in play until they are combined, but no longer create new alternates. I would still keep alternates for shootouts, for those leagues that use them. My 2 cents...

**sezenack** · 07-27-2020, 02:33 PM

I would stick with alternates. 3v3 is not real hockey and is not used in postseason play for a reason

**vizoroo** · 08-12-2020, 09:06 PM

Since the 3 x 3 is becoming universal, no alternate needed. But the shoot out or sudden death shoot out, Oh my no! (they are fun when you win-thank you Troy Terry.)

**dxmnkd316** · 08-16-2020, 03:09 PM

Unless it becomes universal for every league, keep it separate. Or does this mean that all leagues must use 5v5 for 5 then go to 3v3?

I tend to agree with the premise this is stupid human tricks. But then again, rules change and so must we.

I also tend to agree that unless it’s the same rules in the playoffs, then clearly there’s a distinction between the two in terms of legitimacy.

**Ralph Baer** · 08-16-2020, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by dxmnkd316 View Post

Unless it becomes universal for every league, keep it separate. Or does this mean that all leagues must use 5v5 for 5 then go to 3v3?

I tend to agree with the premise this is stupid human tricks. But then again, rules change and so must we.

I also tend to agree that unless it’s the same rules in the playoffs, then clearly there’s a distinction between the two in terms of legitimacy.

Unless I am mistaken, all leagues will use 3x3 instead of 5x5 after 60 minutes. The shootout after that will only be in some leagues.

**dxmnkd316** · 08-17-2020, 12:16 AM

Oh ffs. Ish.

Well, I guess I see why you want nothing to do with alts for that.

My heart says if it’s not good enough for the playoffs...
my head says, “Jeeze, give it a rest, jerry”

**AMC** · 08-18-2020, 02:42 PM

Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

Unless I am mistaken, all leagues will use 3x3 instead of 5x5 after 60 minutes. The shootout after that will only be in some leagues.

To me, if the results of a 3x3 overtime are entered into the RPI calculations as a win or loss, then we should recognize that is the law of the land. "What does the RPI accept" seems to be a good road map.

To the extent some leagues persist with shootouts or other forms of completing games that the RPI ignores, I think we are safe to either ignore those results or award alternate belts (honestly, I'd be fine with referring to them as ties for the purposes of belts, but to each their own).

**Ralph Baer** · 11-11-2020, 08:32 AM

If anyone wants to take this over, please reply or send me an email to the address on my page. If RPI doesn't play this season, which is getting more and more likely, I will have zero enthusiasm for this. Corrections and additions are, of course, also appreciated.

Unless there are more opinions, pro or con, I am leaning to counting the 3x3 OTs as normal OT since everyone who is playing will be using them. Existing 3x3 Alternate Belts will still be tracked and will disappear when they get unified.

Code:

                   Current Holder         Next Defense
The Belt           Cornell                TBD
The Belt Alt 3x3   Michigan               Arizona State 11/14/20
The Belt Alt SO    Maine                  TBD
AHC Belt           Sacred Heart           Army 11/27/20
B1G Belt           Penn State             Minnesota 11/19/20
B1G Belt Alt 3x3   Michigan               Wisconsin 11/19/20
B1G Belt Alt SO    Minnesota              Penn State 11/19/20
ECAC Belt          Cornell                TBD
HEA Belt           Maine                  TBD
NCHC Belt          Minnesota Duluth       Denver 12/02/20
WCHA Belt          Minnesota State        Bemidji State 11/20/20
Ivy Belt           Cornell                TBD
New England Belt   Boston College         TBD
Connecticut Belt   Sacred Heart           Quinnipiac 11/24/20
Massachusetts Belt Boston College         TBD
Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Lake Superior 11/21/20
Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              TBD
New York Belt      Cornell                TBD
D II Play up Belt  Minnesota State        Bemidji State 11/20/20
D II P u Alt SO    American International Bentley 12/18/20
D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             TBD
Play up Belt       Rensselaer             TBD