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  • Originally posted by AMC View Post

    If anything it would be D-III play up, the NCAA ruled that St. Thomas did not need to make an intermediate stop in D-II so they were never a D-II.

    They are D-I provisional, meaning they aren't eligible for the NCAA tournament until 2026. I think for Belt purposes they should be treated as D-I.
    Thanks. There are no D-III schools (Clarkson, SLU, RPI, Union, RIT, CC) on their schedule his year, however should they meet one prior to officially becoming D-I, I would think they are eligible for the D-III Play-Up Belt.

    Any other opinions?
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 11-22-2021, 01:42 PM.
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    • Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

      Thanks. There are no D-III schools (Clarkson, SLU, RPI, Union, RIT, CC) on their schedule his year, however should they meet one prior to officially becoming D-I, I would think they are eligible for the D-III Play-Up Belt.

      Any other opinions?
      This is something we haven't had to face much in D-I hockey because the D-II schools don't need to "transition" upwards if their athletic departments move up (c.f. Merrimack).

      St. Thomas is no longer eligible for a D-III tournament in any sport, so I don't think we can call them D-III play-ups. Wins against them count as wins against a D-I opponent. But they can't participate in the NCAA Tournament. They exist in a bit of a gray area. I'd argue that we treat them as a full D-I for Belt purposes. They can offer athletic scholarships to students in all sports. They are members of a Division I all sports conference (albeit ineligible for the league playoffs).

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      • I think I agree with AMC for the reasons listed.

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        • Tuesday update
          Code:
                             Current Holder         Next Defense
          The Belt           Connecticut            Colgate 11/27/2021
          The Alt Belt       North Dakota           Minnesota 11/26/2021
          AHC Belt           Army                   Bentley 11/26/2021
          B1G Belt           Minnesota              Michigan 12/03/2021
          CCHA Belt          Bemidji State          St. Thomas 12/03/2021
          ECAC Belt          Clarkson               Colgate 12/03/2021
          ECAC Alt SO Belt   Quinnipiac             Rensselaer 12/03/2021
          HEA Belt           Northeastern           Providence 12/03/2021
          NCHC Belt          North Dakota           St. Cloud 12/03/2021
          Ivy Belt           Harvard                Yale 12/03/2021
          Eastern Belt       Connecticut            Colgate 11/27/2021
          Western Belt       North Dakota           Minnesota 11/26/2021
          Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             Yale 01/08/2022
          Massachusetts Belt Northeastern           Massachusetts 01/21/2022
          Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Ferris State 11/26/2021
          Minnesota Belt     Minnesota Duluth       Minnesota State 12/30/2021
          New York Belt      Cornell                St. Lawrence 12/03/2021
          D II Play up Belt  Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
          D II P u Alt SO    Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/03/2021
          D III Play up Belt St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
          Play up Belt       St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
          Corrections are always appreciated.
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          • Thanks AMC and Proud2baLaker. Since 3 posters have agreed that they are D-I for Belt purposes, I will go with that unless someone posts a convincing opinion of something else. Hopefully they won't have the Belt or the CCHA Belt after their last game.
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            • Friday update
              Code:
                                 Current Holder         Next Defense
              The Belt           Connecticut            Colgate 11/27/2021
              The Alt Belt       Minnesota              North Dakota 11/27/2021
              AHC Belt           Bentley                Army 11/27/2021
              B1G Belt           Minnesota              Michigan 12/03/2021
              CCHA Belt          Bemidji State          St. Thomas 12/03/2021
              ECAC Belt          Clarkson               Colgate 12/03/2021
              ECAC Alt SO Belt   Quinnipiac             Rensselaer 12/03/2021
              HEA Belt           Northeastern           Providence 12/03/2021
              NCHC Belt          North Dakota           St. Cloud 12/03/2021
              Ivy Belt           Harvard                Yale 12/03/2021
              Eastern Belt       Connecticut            Colgate 11/27/2021
              Western Belt       Minnesota              North Dakota 11/27/2021
              Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             Yale 01/08/2022
              Massachusetts Belt Northeastern           Massachusetts 01/21/2022
              Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Ferris State 11/27/2021
              Minnesota Belt     Minnesota Duluth       Minnesota State 12/30/2021
              New York Belt      Cornell                St. Lawrence 12/03/2021
              D II Play up Belt  Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
              D II P u Alt SO    Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/03/2021
              D III Play up Belt St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
              Play up Belt       St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
              Corrections are always appreciated.
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              • Congrats to Connecticut on retaining the Belt.
                Code:
                                   Current Holder         Next Defense
                The Belt           Connecticut            Merrimack 12/03/2021
                The Alt Belt       North Dakota           St. Cloud 12/03/2021
                AHC Belt           Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/03/2021
                B1G Belt           Minnesota              Michigan 12/03/2021
                CCHA Belt          Bemidji State          St. Thomas 12/03/2021
                ECAC Belt          Clarkson               Colgate 12/03/2021
                ECAC Alt SO Belt   Quinnipiac             Rensselaer 12/03/2021
                HEA Belt           Northeastern           Providence 12/03/2021
                NCHC Belt          North Dakota           St. Cloud 12/03/2021
                Ivy Belt           Harvard                Yale 12/03/2021
                Eastern Belt       Connecticut            Merrimack 12/03/2021
                Western Belt       North Dakota           St. Cloud 12/03/2021
                Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             Yale 01/08/2022
                Massachusetts Belt Northeastern           Massachusetts 01/21/2022
                Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Michigan 12/29/2021
                Minnesota Belt     Minnesota Duluth       Minnesota State 12/30/2021
                New York Belt      Cornell                St. Lawrence 12/03/2021
                D II Play up Belt  Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
                D II P u Alt SO    Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/03/2021
                D III Play up Belt St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                Play up Belt       St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                Corrections are always appreciated.
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                • Okay. Clarkson has a belt. It's good to see them in the list.
                  Clarkson Men's/Women’s Hockey
                  ECAC RS: Men: 66, 77, 81, 82, 91, 95, 97, 99, 01, 08 Women: 14, 15, 17, 18
                  ECAC Tourney: Men: 66, 91, 93, 99, 07,19 Women: 17, 18, 19
                  NCAA Tourn Appearance: Men: 57, 58, 62, 63, 66, 70, 81, 82, 84, 90, 91, 92, 93, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 07, 08, 18, 19 Women: 10, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19
                  NCAA Frozen 4 Appearance: Men: 57, 58, 62, 63, 66, 70, 91 Women: 14, 16, 17, 18, 19
                  NCAA TITLES: Men: Women: 2014 2017 2018

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                  • Friday update. I left UConn's game today in, but it probably is postponed.
                    Code:
                                       Current Holder         Next Defense
                    The Belt           Connecticut            Merrimack 12/04/2021
                    The Alt Belt       St. Cloud              North Dakota 12/04/2021
                    AHC Belt           Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/04/2021
                    B1G Belt           Minnesota              Michigan 12/04/2021
                    CCHA Belt          Bemidji State          St. Thomas 12/04/2021
                    ECAC Belt          Clarkson               Cornell 12/04/2021
                    ECAC Alt SO Belt   Quinnipiac             Union 12/04/2021
                    HEA Belt           Northeastern           Providence 12/04/2021
                    NCHC Belt          St. Cloud              North Dakota 12/04/2021
                    Ivy Belt           Brown                  Dartmouth 12/04/2021
                    Eastern Belt       Connecticut            Merrimack 12/04/2021
                    Western Belt       St. Cloud              North Dakota 12/04/2021
                    Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             Yale 01/08/2022
                    Massachusetts Belt Northeastern           Massachusetts 01/21/2022
                    Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Michigan 12/29/2021
                    Minnesota Belt     Minnesota Duluth       Minnesota State 12/30/2021
                    New York Belt      Cornell                Clarkson 12/04/2021
                    D II Play up Belt  Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
                    D II P u Alt SO    Bentley                Mercyhurst 12/04/2021
                    D III Play up Belt St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                    Play up Belt       St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                    Corrections are always appreciated.
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                    • Saturday update. First ever NY Alt Belt.

                      Code:
                                         Current Holder         Next Defense
                      The Belt           Connecticut            American International 12/09/2021
                      The Alt Belt       North Dakota           Colorado College 12/10/2021
                      AHC Belt           Bentley                Massachusetts Lowell 01/05/2022
                      B1G Belt           Michigan               Ohip State 12/10/2021
                      CCHA Belt          Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
                      ECAC Belt          Clarkson               Rensselaer 01/14/2022
                      ECAC Alt SO Belt   Quinnipiac             Princeton 01/02/2022
                      HEA Belt           Northeastern           Vermont 01/14/2021
                      NCHC Belt          North Dakota           Colorado College 12/10/2021
                      Ivy Belt           Brown                  Yale 12/10/2021
                      Eastern Belt       Connecticut            American International 12/09/2021
                      Western Belt       North Dakota           Colorado College 12/10/2021
                      Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             Yale 01/08/2022
                      Massachusetts Belt Northeastern           Massachusetts 01/21/2022
                      Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          Michigan 12/29/2021
                      Minnesota Belt     Minnesota Duluth       Minnesota State 12/30/2021
                      New York Belt      Cornell                Colgate 02/04/2022
                      NY Alt SO Belt     Clarkson               Canisius 01/03/2022
                      D II Play up Belt  Bemidji State          Minnesota State 12/10/2021
                      D II P u Alt SO    Bentley                AHA playoffs at earliest
                      D III Play up Belt St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                      Play up Belt       St. Lawrence           Union 01/14/2022
                      Corrections are always appreciated.
                      Last edited by Ralph Baer; Today, 04:07 AM.
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