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  • Ralph Baer
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    Saturday update
    Code:
                       Current Holder         Next Defense
    The Belt           Cornell                2021-22
    The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              Minnesota State 03/28/2021
    The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          Minnesota Duluth 04/08/2021
    AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
    B1G Belt           Minnesota              2021-22
    ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
    ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           2021-22
    HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    NCHC Belt          Minnesota Duluth       NCAA Tourney at earliest
    WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    2021-22
    Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
    New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             2021-22
    Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
    Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              Minnesota State 03/28/2021
    New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
    D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    2021-22
    D II P u Alt SO    American International 2021-22
    D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
    Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22
    Corrections are always appreciated.
    The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

    I will remove Mankato from that in a few hours. If anyone else wants to do it, it's fine with me.
    It actually seems simpler, assuming I made no other errors.

    01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
    02/21/2020 Lake Superior State (Belts unified)
    02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
    01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
    02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
    02/21/2021 Bowling Green
    03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
    03/20/2021 Lake Superior State


    01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
    02/21/2020 Belts unified
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 03-27-2021, 02:42 PM.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

    Well, lets see if there are any opinions about that. If i understand that correctly, it would be all current members of the WCHA, B1G, and NCHC, except PSU, OSU, Miami, and WMU. Correct? (My memory on this isn't great.)
    For the sake of clarity, here would be the eligible teams (any program that ever played in the Men's WCHA):
    Alabama Huntsville
    Alaska
    Alaska Anchorage
    Bemidji State
    Bowling Green
    Colorado College
    Denver
    Ferris State
    Lake Superior State
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Michigan Tech
    Minnesota
    Minnesota Duluth
    Minnesota State Mankato
    Nebraska Omaha
    North Dakota
    Northern Michigan
    Notre Dame
    St. Cloud State
    Wisconsin

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by pdt1081 View Post

    Minnesota State?
    I will remove Mankato from that in a few hours. If anyone else wants to do it, it's fine with me.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

    Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

    My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.
    Well, lets see if there are any opinions about that. If i understand that correctly, it would be all current members of the WCHA, B1G, and NCHC, except PSU, OSU, Miami, and WMU. Correct? (My memory on this isn't great.)

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  • pdt1081
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    Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

    I asked if anyone had any opinion on that, and I don't think that I got any. That makes sense to me, but I still look for opinions.

    There also is an old CCHA which since the beginning of last season has gone this way.
    10/18/2019 Bowling Green
    11/23/2019 Lake Superior State
    12/13/2019 Bowling Green
    12/14/2019 Lake Superior State
    01/10/2020 Alaska
    01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT and gets an Alternate Belt
    01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
    02/07/2020 Minnesota State
    03/19/2021 Northern Michigan (Belts unified)
    03/20/2021 Lake Superior State

    I just updated this from the end of last year. Corrections are much appreciated. I would like to unify this with the CCHA whenever it happens. Comments?

    The alternate mentioned above is
    01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
    02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
    01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
    02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
    02/21/2021 Bowling Green
    03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
    03/19/2021 Belts Unified

    I regard this as the old CCHA
    Alaska (Fairbanks)
    Bowling Green
    Ferris
    Lake State
    Miami
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Northern Michigan
    Notre Dame
    Ohio State
    Western Michigan
    Minnesota State?

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  • pdt1081
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

    Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

    My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.
    Before formation of the B1G, or before formation of the original CCHA? Could get complicated.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post

    What do you mean by former WCHA. Do you mean the current members or those before the NCHC was founded? If its current, which means just adding the three UA teams and not counting St. Thomas, IMO it isn't really worth the trouble. If you want to add ND, Denver et al., then one would have to go back to find out where it is now.
    Former WCHA = all members that were a part of the WCHA at any time, including before the formation of the B1G. Notre Dame, Denver, et al. included.

    My thoughts would be that it would retain the WCHA history up through the last WCHA game ever played (LSSU over Northern Michigan). LSSU would have the belt, and then all former members of the former conference would challenge for it.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

    Good question. My thoughts would be to convert it to a Former WCHA Belt, and allow all the former WCHA members compete for it (with LSSU starting off with the belt), and then dust off the old CCHA belt and award it to whoever wins the first game played between CCHA teams next season.
    What do you mean by former WCHA. Do you mean the current members or those before the NCHC was founded? If its current, which means just adding the three UA teams and not counting St. Thomas, IMO it isn't really worth the trouble. If you want to add ND, Denver et al., then one would have to go back to find out where it is now.

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Proud2baLaker View Post
    Will the WCHA belt simply become the CCHA belt? I haven't followed this thread enough to see if this was discussed.
    I asked if anyone had any opinion on that, and I don't think that I got any. That makes sense to me, but I still look for opinions.

    There also is an old CCHA which since the beginning of last season has gone this way.
    10/18/2019 Bowling Green
    11/23/2019 Lake Superior State
    12/13/2019 Bowling Green
    12/14/2019 Lake Superior State
    01/10/2020 Alaska
    01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT and gets an Alternate Belt
    01/25/2020 Northern Michigan
    02/07/2020 Minnesota State
    03/19/2021 Northern Michigan (Belts unified)
    03/20/2021 Lake Superior State

    I just updated this from the end of last year. Corrections are much appreciated. I would like to unify this with the CCHA whenever it happens. Comments?

    The alternate mentioned above is
    01/11/2020 Lake Superior State defeated Alaska in 3x3 OT Alternate Belt
    02/22/2020 Northern Michigan
    01/08/2021 Lake Superior State
    02/07/2021 Northern Michigan
    02/21/2021 Bowling Green
    03/14/2021 Northern Michigan
    03/19/2021 Belts Unified

    I regard this as the old CCHA
    Alaska (Fairbanks)
    Bowling Green
    Ferris
    Lake State
    Miami
    Michigan
    Michigan State
    Northern Michigan
    Notre Dame
    Ohio State
    Western Michigan

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Originally posted by Fighting Sioux 23 View Post

    NCHC Belt on the line this afternoon, as North Dakota takes on Minnesota Duluth.
    Thanks

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Proud2baLaker View Post
    Will the WCHA belt simply become the CCHA belt? I haven't followed this thread enough to see if this was discussed.
    Good question. My thoughts would be to convert it to a Former WCHA Belt, and allow all the former WCHA members compete for it (with LSSU starting off with the belt), and then dust off the old CCHA belt and award it to whoever wins the first game played between CCHA teams next season.

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  • Proud2baLaker
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    Will the WCHA belt simply become the CCHA belt? I haven't followed this thread enough to see if this was discussed.

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  • Fighting Sioux 23
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    Originally posted by Ralph Baer View Post
    Friday update
    Code:
     Current Holder Next Defense
    The Belt Cornell 2021-22
    The Belt Alt 3x3 Minnesota Nebraska Omaha 03/27/2021
    The Belt Alt SO Massachusetts Bemidji State 03/27/2021
    AHC Belt American International 2021-22
    B1G Belt Minnesota 2021-22
    ECAC Belt Cornell 2021-22
    ECAC Alt Belt St. Lawrence 2021-22
    HEA Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
    NCHC Belt North Dakota NCAA Tourney at earliest
    WCHA Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22
    Ivy Belt Cornell 2021-22
    New England Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Connecticut Belt Quinnipiac 2021-22
    Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Michigan Belt Michigan Tech 2021-22
    Minnesota Belt Minnesota NCAA Tourney at earliest
    New York Belt Cornell 2021-22
    D II Play up Belt Lake Superior State 2021-22
    D II P u Alt SO American International 2021-22
    D III Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
    Play up Belt Rensselaer 2021-22
    Corrections are always appreciated.
    The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
    NCHC Belt on the line this afternoon, as North Dakota takes on Minnesota Duluth.

    Also, and I apologize if this has been asked before, but what is the most number of belts played for in any one particular game? We could have a 6-belt melee in the National Title game if its Boston College v. Massachusetts, with the following on the line:

    The Belt Alternate (newly created for the NCAA Tournament Champion)
    The Belt Alt 3x3 (obviously would ultimately be merged) - would be in BC's possession heading into title game
    The Belt Alt SO (also ultimately merged) - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
    HEA Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
    Massachusetts Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game
    New England Belt - would be in Massachusetts' possession heading into title game

    Hopefully it doesn't come to this, but I was curious. ; )

    Further, what is the criterion for tracking a state belt? At least x number of teams? Someone cares enough to have done the research to track it down?

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  • Ralph Baer
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    Friday update
    Code:
                       Current Holder         Next Defense
    The Belt           Cornell                2021-22
    The Belt Alt 3x3   Minnesota              Nebraska Omaha 03/27/2021
    The Belt Alt SO    Massachusetts          Bemidji State 03/27/2021
    AHC Belt           American International 2021-22
    B1G Belt           Minnesota              2021-22
    ECAC Belt          Cornell                2021-22
    ECAC Alt Belt      St. Lawrence           2021-22
    HEA Belt           Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    NCHC Belt          North Dakota           Minnesota Duluth 03/27/2021
    WCHA Belt          Lake Superior State    2021-22
    Ivy Belt           Cornell                2021-22
    New England Belt   Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Connecticut Belt   Quinnipiac             2021-22
    Massachusetts Belt Massachusetts          NCAA Tourney at earliest
    Michigan Belt      Michigan Tech          2021-22
    Minnesota Belt     Minnesota              NCAA Tourney at earliest
    New York Belt      Cornell                2021-22
    D II Play up Belt  Lake Superior State    2021-22
    D II P u Alt SO    American International 2021-22
    D III Play up Belt Rensselaer             2021-22
    Play up Belt       Rensselaer             2021-22
    Corrections are always appreciated.
    The winner of the NCAA tourney will get an alternate Belt because Cornell won't be defending. The existing alternates will be absorbed into it.
    Last edited by Ralph Baer; 03-27-2021, 09:47 AM.

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