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  • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

    Games are played to completion?!

    Blasphemy! That type of thinking has no place in this esteemed tournament.
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    • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

      Originally posted by crossjcek View Post
      I like the wcha's chances this year! Go Tech
      I don't know, the last couple of weekends the Huskies seem to have found some confidence again. Perhaps four soul-crushing losses to Denver & Wisconsin will put an end to that and allow Tech to look forward to the Bottomfeeder Tourney. They've got to be anxious to avenge last year's early exit - they looked way too good in that awful 19-1 first round win over American International.

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      • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

        The committee is experimenting with a new hybrid ranking system known as FARTS (Freddie's Arbitrary Ranking of Teams that Suck). FARTS is a mathematical formula taking into consideration:
        1. Each teams LP (Losing Percentage),
        2. The combined LP of all their opponents,
        3. The combined LP of their opponents opponents,
        4. The combined LP of all their conference members in NON conference play,
        5. The high temperature (celsius) on the day of each team's final game of before the tournament draw, as recorded in the home town of the player who's home town is furthest away from his school.

        These FIVE factors are given a 'share' value assigned by the committee's ouija board. The total of all five shares will add up to 100%. Each of the five factors is them multiplied by the assigned 'share', then the shares are added up to create each team's FARTS.

        The 25 worst FARTS are declared as TWITS (Teams With Inadequate Talent or Skill). Each of the TWITS are then run through a series of comparisons to all the other TWITS. Those comparisons are:
        1. LP against all other TWITS
        2. LP against all common opponents
        3. Losses in head-to-head meetings
        4. Losses that occurred on any day of the week not containing an "R"
        Each team is awarded a comparison 'point' for each comparison lost, with ties being broken by FARTS.

        The resulting ranking BFR (Bottom Feeder Ranking) will decide eligibility for 'at large' bids, and will also be used for seeding.

        As always, this tournament is all for the fans...so feel free to make suggestions. Faithful to the old saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth", the committee believes that everyone ought to have a hand in making this event a total disgrace.
        Du hockey comme dans le temps!

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        • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

          Originally posted by Freddie View Post
          The committee is experimenting with a new hybrid ranking system known as FARTS (Freddie's Arbitrary Ranking of Teams that Suck). FARTS is a mathematical formula taking into consideration:
          1. Each teams LP (Losing Percentage),
          2. The combined LP of all their opponents,
          3. The combined LP of their opponents opponents,
          4. The combined LP of all their conference members in NON conference play,
          5. The high temperature (celsius) on the day of each team's final game of before the tournament draw, as recorded in the home town of the player who's home town is furthest away from his school.

          These FIVE factors are given a 'share' value assigned by the committee's ouija board. The total of all five shares will add up to 100%. Each of the five factors is them multiplied by the assigned 'share', then the shares are added up to create each team's FARTS.

          The 25 worst FARTS are declared as TWITS (Teams With Inadequate Talent or Skill). Each of the TWITS are then run through a series of comparisons to all the other TWITS. Those comparisons are:
          1. LP against all other TWITS
          2. LP against all common opponents
          3. Losses in head-to-head meetings
          4. Losses that occurred on any day of the week not containing an "R"
          Each team is awarded a comparison 'point' for each comparison lost, with ties being broken by FARTS.

          The resulting ranking BFR (Bottom Feeder Ranking) will decide eligibility for 'at large' bids, and will also be used for seeding.

          As always, this tournament is all for the fans...so feel free to make suggestions. Faithful to the old saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth", the committee believes that everyone ought to have a hand in making this event a total disgrace.
          If the committee puts that much effort into determining the field, I'll be extremely disappointed. I think the best method would be to put the names of the bottom 25 teams in RPI (excluding anyone who qualifies for the NCAA Tourney) on a wall, blindfold someone and have them throw darts. The first team hit is the No. 1 overall seed, second hit is No. 2 overall seed, etc. until you get your 16 teams. If there are people standing around who could possibly be struck by stray darts, that would be even better.
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          • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

            Originally posted by Federal League View Post
            If the committee puts that much effort into determining the field, I'll be extremely disappointed. I think the best method would be to put the names of the bottom 25 teams in RPI (excluding anyone who qualifies for the NCAA Tourney) on a wall, blindfold someone and have them throw darts. The first team hit is the No. 1 overall seed, second hit is No. 2 overall seed, etc. until you get your 16 teams. If there are people standing around who could possibly be struck by stray darts, that would be even better.
            Yes. Except I think they should all be thrown at the same time.
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            • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

              The bottom 25 RPI teams should be written on sheets of paper and left in a pasture somewhere. They are seeded in order of which one gets shat on first.

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              • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                Originally posted by Federal League View Post
                If the committee puts that much effort into determining the field, I'll be extremely disappointed. I think the best method would be to put the names of the bottom 25 teams in RPI (excluding anyone who qualifies for the NCAA Tourney) on a wall, blindfold someone and have them throw darts. The first team hit is the No. 1 overall seed, second hit is No. 2 overall seed, etc. until you get your 16 teams. If there are people standing around who could possibly be struck by stray darts, that would be even better.
                Disagree. I think this is where the Futile Four can outshine the NCAA.....


                ... Use KRACH
                Originally posted by nmupiccdiva
                ...anyone that can start a meme like that is welcome and will fit in just fine around here.

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                • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                  Originally posted by Terrier520 View Post
                  ... Use KRACH
                  Instead of VORP?
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                  • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                    Originally posted by Terrier520 View Post
                    Disagree. I think this is where the Futile Four can outshine the NCAA.....


                    ... Use KRACH
                    KRACH makes too much sense. This tourney only uses CRACK.
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                    • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                      Forget any kind of ranking system, it makes way too much sense. Use straight up records, then we wouldn't get a whole bunch of AHA teams either.
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                      • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                        It seems to me that to be true to the spirit of the Futile Four the selection process should be as complicated, drawn out, painful and insane as possible. Teams shouldnt even know if they are in the tournament and what seed they are and where they will be playing until the last possible second.

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                        • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                          Originally posted by Proud2baLaker View Post
                          It seems to me that to be true to the spirit of the Futile Four the selection process should be as complicated, drawn out, painful and insane as possible. Teams shouldnt even know if they are in the tournament and what seed they are and where they will be playing until the last possible second.
                          Definitely. Bring on the blind choice round robins!

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                          • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                            Originally posted by Proud2baLaker View Post
                            It seems to me that to be true to the spirit of the Futile Four the selection process should be as complicated, drawn out, painful and insane as possible. Teams shouldnt even know if they are in the tournament and what seed they are and where they will be playing until the last possible second.
                            I expect all my decisions to be transmitted by messenger pigeon. So, we'll do it this way... we weight the teams by record and then give the teams with the worst record to the pigeons with the largest wingspan/weight ratio. The first 16 birds to arrive make up the field.
                            Last edited by Patman; 02-11-2010, 08:24 PM. Reason: passenger pigeons are still extinct and good eating
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                            • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                              Originally posted by Patman View Post
                              I expect all my decisions to be transmitted by messenger pigeon. So, we'll do it this way... we weight the teams by record and then give the teams with the worst record to the pigeons with the largest wingspan/weight ratio. The first 16 birds to arrive make up the field.
                              Lets make it even more complicated by using one-eyed birds with no sense of direction. And have them carry the the information in coconuts tied to their legs...or they could grip it by the husk.

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                              • Re: Bottom Feeders Bracket/Futile Four 2010

                                Couple thoughts...

                                You could use chickens pecking for grain on a sheet of paper to select teams.

                                Look at the overall records of teams, 16 lowest get in. This allows for a few fewer AHA teams.

                                Bring on the complicated KRATCH and CRUNCH (Chef's Ranking Underachiving Non-Competitive Hockey) systems. The advantage of CRUNCH is it does not depend upon temperature of some rural Canadian outpost, rather it depends on snowfall. This is a much more neutral mark, which depends on long term performance. Just as a 15 team can beat a 2, some days it can get hotter than others. Snowfall requires consistent performance over several weeks.
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