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  • #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

    No clever title this time. North Dakota (5-4-2) is coming off a tie (with 3x3 OT winner, if you're into that sort of thing) and loss to new #1 Denver last weekend. The Sioux are winless in their last 6.

    St. Cloud State (6-4-0) most recently swept Colorado College in Colorado Springs and has either swept or been swept every series this year. The four losses were on the road in Mankato and at home against Duluth. They've swept Minnesota, Huntsville, and the aforementioned CC.

    Last year was the first time in over a decade that the two teams did not play four regular season games. The single series was played in St. Cloud with UND winning 4-3 on Friday, followed by a 6-1 SCSU win on Saturday.

    A "Fire Berry" thread was started this morning on SiouxSports. Let's do this.

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    Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

    Make it 8. SCSU win and tie.
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      Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

      North Dakota had problems with the Gophers. Not sure what is going on with them.
      Originally posted by SJHovey
      Pretty sure this post, made on January 3, 2016, when UNO was 14-3-1 and #2 in the pairwise, will go down in USCHO lore as The Curse of Tipsy McStagger.
      Originally posted by Brenthoven
      We mourn for days after a loss, puff out our chests for a week or more after we win. We brave the cold for tailgates, our friends know not to ask about the game after a tough loss, we laugh, we cry, we BLEED hockey, specifically the maroon'n'gold. Many of us have a tattoo waiting in the wings, WHEN (not IF) the Gophers are champions again.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
        North Dakota had problems with the Gophers. Not sure what is going on with them.
        Right now they couldn't score on a broomball net.
        Fly Eagles Fly!!!

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          Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

          Originally posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
          North Dakota had problems with the Gophers. Not sure what is going on with them.
          Right now they're just glad to be over this run of good opposition.

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          • #6
            Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

            Originally posted by icehawk View Post
            Right now they couldn't score on a broomball net.
            We have the goalies to cure what ails you.
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            "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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            • #7
              Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

              Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
              We have the goalies to cure what ails you.
              Driscoll (Fr): 2.92 GAA, .884 SV%
              Smith (Soph transfer): 3.61 GAA, .867 SV%

              The primary difference, as I see it, is the team has simply played better in front of Driscoll up to this point. Also I'm willing to cut him a little slack as a freshman trying to figure out an elevated level of play. Bob started Driscoll both nights last weekend, so I'd say start him on Friday and if he plays well, start him on Saturday. Motzko has never been a big goalie rotation guy, so I hope one of them can start to figure it out and take the reigns full time.

              For what it's worth, Cam Johnson is sitting at 2.45 GAA, .895 SV%.

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                Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                Originally posted by Pump It Up View Post
                Driscoll (Fr): 2.92 GAA, .884 SV%
                Smith (Soph transfer): 3.61 GAA, .867 SV%

                The primary difference, as I see it, is the team has simply played better in front of Driscoll up to this point. Also I'm willing to cut him a little slack as a freshman trying to figure out an elevated level of play. Bob started Driscoll both nights last weekend, so I'd say start him on Friday and if he plays well, start him on Saturday. Motzko has never been a big goalie rotation guy, so I hope one of them can start to figure it out and take the reigns full time.

                For what it's worth, Cam Johnson is sitting at 2.45 GAA, .895 SV%.
                Watching Friday's game, I thought that Driscoll should have kept out two of the goals that he did let in the net. The one goal that I wouldn't assign to Driscoll, IMO, was either just a pretty goal or a D breakdown - take your pick and I could go either way.

                Both of them have shown flashes of becoming good net minders for the Huskies, but they're just not up to snuff yet. They're young and still trying to get accustomed to game play at this level. Until they do mature, though, we shouldn't expect either of them to steal the occasional game for us the way Faragher and Lindgren did over the past few years.
                "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

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                  Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                  Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                  Watching Friday's game, I thought that Driscoll should have kept out two of the goals that he did let in the net. The one goal that I wouldn't assign to Driscoll, IMO, was either just a pretty goal or a D breakdown - take your pick and I could go either way.

                  Both of them have shown flashes of becoming good net minders for the Huskies, but they're just not up to snuff yet. They're young and still trying to get accustomed to game play at this level. Until they do mature, though, we shouldn't expect either of them to steal the occasional game for us the way Faragher and Lindgren did over the past few years.
                  Not holding my breath. The past few goalies have been good pretty much from the moment the got in net. Dunn, Lee, Faragher and Lindgren were all very good from the get-go. I will say that I think the defense has been pretty lackluster, so I don't want to write off the goalies just yet.
                  Originally posted by SJHovey
                  Pretty sure this post, made on January 3, 2016, when UNO was 14-3-1 and #2 in the pairwise, will go down in USCHO lore as The Curse of Tipsy McStagger.
                  Originally posted by Brenthoven
                  We mourn for days after a loss, puff out our chests for a week or more after we win. We brave the cold for tailgates, our friends know not to ask about the game after a tough loss, we laugh, we cry, we BLEED hockey, specifically the maroon'n'gold. Many of us have a tattoo waiting in the wings, WHEN (not IF) the Gophers are champions again.

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                    Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                    Originally posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
                    Not holding my breath. The past few goalies have been good pretty much from the moment the got in net. Dunn, Lee, Faragher and Lindgren were all very good from the get-go. I will say that I think the defense has been pretty lackluster, so I don't want to write off the goalies just yet.
                    The D needs to tighten up, but there are three guys that I like - Cholowsky, Ahcan and Nevaleinen. After that, they could all use some work. Widman, I know from where I was sitting during the Ferris game last year, right behind FSU's bench, was being called out by FSU's forwards as the guy to exploit. The words "He sucks" were repeated. Often. And then they proved it.
                    "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                    "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                    "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                      The D needs to tighten up, but there are three guys that I like - Cholowsky, Ahcan and Nevaleinen. After that, they could all use some work. Widman, I know from where I was sitting during the Ferris game last year, right behind FSU's bench, was being called out by FSU's forwards as the guy to exploit. The words "He sucks" were repeated. Often. And then they proved it.
                      Widman is not as bad as you make him out to be and I'd put Schuldt and Borgen over the three you mentioned.
                      They are a work in progress but anyone who expected any different after what we lost was fooling themselves.
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                        Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                        Originally posted by Tipsy McStagger View Post
                        Not holding my breath. The past few goalies have been good pretty much from the moment the got in net. Dunn, Lee, Faragher and Lindgren were all very good from the get-go. I will say that I think the defense has been pretty lackluster, so I don't want to write off the goalies just yet.
                        I don't think that is true at all. Dunn was never good. Lee wasn't able to win the job outright from Dunn as a freshman. Faragher was what we was all the way through, though he was two years older as a freshman than Driscoll. Lindgren only started five games as a freshman and was pretty meh.

                        There's only two other goalies in the NCAA that are young enough to still be drafted, but haven't been besides Driscoll, and neither of them are very good either. It's tough to play goalie at that young of an age. I'm not saying he will turn it around, because that is tough to do too, but it is still early.
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                          Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                          Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                          Widman is not as bad as you make him out to be and I'd put Schuldt and Borgen over the three you mentioned.
                          They are a work in progress but anyone who expected any different after what we lost was fooling themselves.
                          Widman is as bad as I said. He just is. Hell, Ferris State specifically exploited him for an entire game. I watched them pull his jock down around his ankles, causing him to trip while they beat Lindgren (who was having a bad game, sure). That was how FSU scored its first goal. Watching SCSU last weekend, there was Widman again tripping over his own feet, and this time he wasn't even being pressured.

                          Borgen is solid, but not good, and he's not really improving anymore. I should have given Schuldt more credit. That was a miss on my part.
                          "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                          "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                          "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by St. Clown View Post
                            Widman is as bad as I said. He just is. Hell, Ferris State specifically exploited him for an entire game. I watched them pull his jock down around his ankles, causing him to trip while they beat Lindgren (who was having a bad game, sure). That was how FSU scored its first goal. Watching SCSU last weekend, there was Widman again tripping over his own feet, and this time he wasn't even being pressured.
                            -
                            That was the only goal he was on for in the game too.
                            If FSU was exploiting him, they didn't do that good a job at it, no matter what they said on the bench.
                            Schuldt and Prow were burned more often than he was.
                            Widman is a guy who is at his best when he is not noticed...yes he will make mistakes but I don't know of a dman who doesn't.
                            The D and goaltending will get better as the year progresses and that's all we can really ask for.
                            "If you leave ignorance and stupidity alone, ignorance and stupidity will think it's ok."
                            -Gallagher

                            R.I.P.
                            Grandpa G. ~ Feb 11, 1918-Oct. 6, 1999
                            Grandma ~ Jan 2004
                            Dad ~ Nov. 4, 1958-April 21, 2008
                            Grandpa S. ~ June 21, 1932-November 11, 2013

                            SCSU 2015-16 scoring by class through 40 games
                            Seniors: 210 points (71G, 139A) from 5 players
                            Juniors: 39 points (8G, 31A) from 4 players
                            Sophomores: 99 points (49G, 50A) from 5 players
                            Freshmen: 129 points (43G, 86A) from 8 players

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                              Re: #8 North Dakota @ #12 St. Cloud State - November 18-19

                              Originally posted by First Time, Long Time View Post
                              That was the only goal he was on for in the game too.
                              If FSU was exploiting him, they didn't do that good a job at it, no matter what they said on the bench.
                              Schuldt and Prow were burned more often than he was.
                              Widman is a guy who is at his best when he is not noticed...yes he will make mistakes but I don't know of a dman who doesn't.
                              The D and goaltending will get better as the year progresses and that's all we can really ask for.
                              Are you Frank Drebin?
                              "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." George Orwell, 1984

                              "One does not simply walk into Mordor. Its Black Gates are guarded by more than just Orcs. There is evil there that does not sleep, and the Great Eye is ever watchful. It is a barren wasteland, riddled with fire and ash and dust, the very air you breathe is a poisonous fume." Boromir

                              "Good news! We have a delivery." Professor Farnsworth

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