UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!

[wildcatdc]

And, of course, I realize it's apples to oranges...but regarding the attendance at MSG at least, it's not surprising that it was a sea of red (of course, when we played them it was a sea of red, too ) - that's just a little humor, because both teams are red (although technically we are scarlet). But (and some may not like this - but what else is new?) the typical Cornell fan it could be safely assumed has more "disposable income" than the UNH fan. I was lucky because we stayed with my wife's aunt (or as they say down there, "ant") in New Jersey. But when you consider the tickets, transportation, meals and accommodations, you're looking at $500 easy. I'm guessing that's not even going to register on the average Cornell fan's radar if he/she is truly interested in attending. And I'm also guessing that the average UNH fan would have to at least "think" about it...

Seriously?

What a tool.

[scoreboard]

Seriously?

What a tool.

Take what he said with a grain of salt. He stated that UNH fans can't afford to go to NYC but also said when he came to NYC for a game he stayed at an aunt's house in Jersey.... Ugh

[chickod]

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How charming of you elistists to point out how you have more disposable income than UNH fans.

Not sure what the vitriol is for. I am certainly no elitist. My point was that Cornell is an IVY LEAGUE school. THEY are the elitists. I went to BU...maybe you missed that. Tuition was $3000 when I attended.

[chickod]

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Take what he said with a grain of salt. He stated that UNH fans can't afford to go to NYC but also said when he came to NYC for a game he stayed at an aunt's house in Jersey.... Ugh

It wasn't a condescending remark. I would have loved to have been able to say last weekend, "Sure, honey, let's just cash in one of our stocks and fly out to San Francisco for that Pats/49ers game. We can stay at the Fairmont ($600/night) and grab dinner at the Saison and perhaps stay an extra night." Total tab: about $5000.

I CAN'T DO THAT EITHER. That was my point. That's why we only went to two of the FIVE MSG games. I was just pointing out that a school like Cornell is always going to have more fans at a "special" event like that, because they all come out of the woodwork. Half of the people that were sitting around us hardly had a clue about hockey - they were there because of the "event."

Why would I come on here and purposely insult UNH fans? Jesus...

[Chuck Murray]

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Sometimes I wonder what planet I'm living on these days ... really I do.

Too many times, too many of us seem determined to be offended by something/anything.

I love this place, really like all you folks (yeah, even when we disagree) ... can we please leave the social justice warrior starter kits for the gentle snowflakes among us, and just speak freely like adults once in awhile? The "I'm offended by ___ - gotcha" bullcrap gets tiring after awhile, it really does.

I read chickod's comments and bypassed it as just an observation. After seeing the reaction, I asked my two daughters (recent UNH grads) to read his post, and neither was offended. I didn't think they would be. Enough already, please.

[walrus]

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As a Maine fan I wouldn't spend a 100 bucks to see Maine and Brown play, I could afford to go but in terms of entertainment value it wasn't worth 50 cents. Maybe UNH fans are smarter than Cornell fans . BTW I have multiple Cornell grads in my immediate family so chill

[wildcatdc]

Sometimes I wonder what planet I'm living on these days ... really I do.

Too many times, too many of us seem determined to be offended by something/anything.

I love this place, really like all you folks (yeah, even when we disagree) ... can we please leave the social justice warrior starter kits for the gentle snowflakes among us, and just speak freely like adults once in awhile? The "I'm offended by ___ - gotcha" bullcrap gets tiring after awhile, it really does.

I read chickod's comments and bypassed it as just an observation. After seeing the reaction, I asked my two daughters (recent UNH grads) to read his post, and neither was offended. I didn't think they would be. Enough already, please.

Off the soapbox, please. I took zero offense to chickod's post. I just found it incredibly ignorant. The are myriad reasons to which he could have ascribed the lopsided attendance:

1. The concentration of Cornell grads in the NYC area
2. The fact that this has become quite the tradition for Cornell, playing there 8 times since 2007. Their coach said something to the effect of "it's much more than a game". It's a big deal for Cornell.
3. The fact that it's a 3+ hour drive to NYC from most parts of NH on a weekend where the tendency is to have people come TO you for the holiday.
4. The fact that we haven't traveled well in years, commensurate with our falling fortunes on the ice (as SB mentions).

But instead he went the FSteve circa 2003 route. Not offensive, just clumsy. Pretty sure people aren't looking to revisit the W-2 wars of yesteryear.

If someone like chickod is going to make a dumb comment, people can and will respond. Nothing screams SJW more than trying to guide the discourse. Let 'em say what they want - don't take offense! 😄

[Chuck Murray]

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Off the soapbox, please. I took zero offense to chickod's post. I just found it incredibly ignorant. The are myriad reasons to which he could have ascribed the lopsided attendance:

1. The concentration of Cornell grads in the NYC area
2. The fact that this has become quite the tradition for Cornell, playing there 8 times since 2007. Their coach said something to the effect of "it's much more than a game". It's a big deal for Cornell.
3. The fact that it's a 3+ hour drive to NYC from most parts of NH on a weekend where the tendency is to have people come TO you for the holiday.
4. The fact that we haven't traveled well in years, commensurate with our falling fortunes on the ice (as SB mentions).

But instead he went the FSteve circa 2003 route. Not offensive, just clumsy. Pretty sure people aren't looking to revisit the W-2 wars of yesteryear.

If someone like chickod is going to make a dumb comment, people can and will respond. Nothing screams SJW more than trying to guide the discourse. Let 'em say what they want - don't take offense! 😄

Fair points all. Much more content and logic than your preceding post.

[wildcatdc]

Fair points all. Much more content and logic than your preceding post.

Fair point yourself!! 😄

[E.J. Smith]

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Cats off to a great start in the FCS 1st Round. Up 35-7 over Lehigh with a little under 4 minutes in the 1st half.

For those of you fascinated by D2, I've included a link as they appear to be getting to their final four today.

http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/football/d2

Still butt hurt I see.

[wildcatdc]

Still butt hurt I see.

Wow, look at E.J. using his big boy words!! Little cranky because the football team had a great showing in the new stadium??

I don't expect us to get past JMU, but yep, I'm pretty pleased to see us advance in the FCS playoffs, as the vast majority of UNH supporters would be.

Who are you pulling for in the D2 playoffs? You can choose from:

Shepherd
North Alabama
North Greenville
California (California of Pennsylvania, that is)

Thanks for checking in.

[E.J. Smith]

Re: UNH Wildcats 2016-17 -- We're Going to Have a Hockey Season Here!!

Wow, look at E.J. using his big boy words!! Little cranky because the football team had a great showing in the new stadium??

I don't expect us to get past JMU, but yep, I'm pretty pleased to see us advance in the FCS playoffs, as the vast majority of UNH supporters would be.

Who are you pulling for in the D2 playoffs? You can choose from:

Shepherd
North Alabama
North Greenville
California (California of Pennsylvania, that is)

Thanks for checking in.

Yup, still butt hurt.

And you're even wrong about JMU, the Cats will handle them easily, it's Alabama that I'm worri...oh right, that's the "other" Division 1.

[wildcatdc]

Yup, still butt hurt.

And you're even wrong about JMU, the Cats will handle them easily, it's Alabama that I'm worri...oh right, that's the "other" Division 1.

Whew, that's some STRONG sauce!! I guess that's the best you can come with, so I'll let you have the last word.

Moving on....

[Chuck Murray]

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When you're playing in the second tier of a certain league/competition, it's fair to refer to it as D-2, no?

In English football (soccer), over the last 20+ years it's gone from this ...

* First Division
* Second Division
* Third Division
* Fourth Division

... to this ...

* Premier League
* League Championship
* League One
* League Two

... but basically it's still 92 clubs spread across the top 4 tiers of the competition.

What is now the "FCS" used to be Division Two, with most of the same schools. Not that complicated.

[wildcatdc]

When you're playing in the second tier of a certain league/competition, it's fair to refer to it as D-2, no?

In English football (soccer), over the last 20+ years it's gone from this ...

* First Division
* Second Division
* Third Division
* Fourth Division

... to this ...

* Premier League
* League Championship
* League One
* League Two

... but basically it's still 92 clubs spread across the top 4 tiers of the competition.

What is now the "FCS" used to be Division Two, with most of the same schools. Not that complicated.

Chuck, I've found you to be a smart guy, quite knowledgeable about sports history, but you are dead wrong on this one. Let me explain...

Until 1973, the NCAA was split into two divisions... University, and College. In 1973, the numerical system was introduced. University division teams went to Division 1. College division teams went to Division 2 if they wanted to offer scholarships, or wanted to play teams that did. Division 3 was reserved for College division members who did NOT want to offer scholarships.

In 1978, Division 1 was then further split into Division 1-A (now FBS), and Division 1-AA (now FCS). (There was actually a "Division 1" as well for D-1 teams that did not play football.)

So no, Division 2 did not become Division 1-AA or FCS. Period.

I will challenge you to answer following questions honestly:

1. If you call ESPN and ask them to guide you to the NCAA Division 2 football championship game, to where will the direct you?

2. Google NCAA Diviaion 2 Football Playoffs and find UNH. Did you find it?

3. Check the USA Today football rankings (in paper or online) and see if UNH appears as a Division 2 team.

4. Go to the NCAA website and search for NCAA Division 2 member schools. Find us?

We both know the answers to these questions. We also know that you are using the D2 jab to poke at Marty and the athletic department.

Is UNH at the second level of college football? Indubitably. Are they in Division 2. Nope.

If you want to keep up the jabbing, go for it. I think the more mature route would be to appreciate the success they are having in the FCS. At least the above facts should clear things up for the crew here (as if it wasn't clear before).

You're right - not complicated.