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  • Lemonade
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    Originally posted by TheRevengeance View Post
    I didn't mind Theut and Frye not playing when I thought they were just walk on bodies. It would still be a failure of recruiting, but at least you could understand and accept the narrative that they aren't very good. The fact that their both on scholarship just wiped away any excuse the staff had.
    I am not saying that the poster who said they are all on scholarship but it may be the case that Ruck is on a full, and Theut and Frye are splitting a scholarship. Teams get 18 so its almost unheard of to have 3 goalies all on scholarship. Most schools have two goalie scholarships to divy up among 3 spots. Most have two full and then a walk on.

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  • TheRevengeance
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    I didn't mind Theut and Frye not playing when I thought they were just walk on bodies. It would still be a failure of recruiting, but at least you could understand and accept the narrative that they aren't very good. The fact that their both on scholarship just wiped away any excuse the staff had.

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  • NU_Husky
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    Originally posted by Lemonade View Post
    1000% absolutely valid question. At this point why not give another a goalie a try.
    If GSM is right and all 3 goalies are on some form of scholarship then JM lost his only excuse, which would have been "play the scholarship guy." Which is a poor excuse when you realize scholarship =/= performance. So I'm officially out of reasons/excuses/logic/anything.

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  • Drew S.
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    It's going to be interesting when Maine and Northeastern play at the end of the regular season. It might take 10 goals to win!

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  • Lemonade
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    Originally posted by NU_Husky View Post
    Which makes me wonder why they have two options that they brought in, clearly thinking they can play at the D1 level, but can't sniff the starting gig. Why bring in players onto the roster if you do not think they can play, and when the player in front of them ****s the bed like Ruck has been doing, why don't the backups get a run? we've seen Maine, BU, UNH, Merrimack, to name a few locally, that had goalie rotations and backups get serious minutes during a year. It's not like it's a novel idea
    1000% absolutely valid question. At this point why not give another a goalie a try.

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  • beanstalk
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    Originally posted by Gr8Sk8M8 View Post
    Someone, may have been you, stated that Filipe came in a year too early. That could be correct but then I see him over the last couple of few games and wonder when the "Breakout" is going to happen...I really believe that he's less than a 1/4 beat away from a 3-4 point game...

    Back to last night...

    Gaudette -4
    Schule -3
    Griffin -3
    Gaudette -4
    Davies -5
    You have a typo in there with Gaudette appearing twice. Davies was actually a -4 and the big winner, with a statistically improbable -5, was Cockerill. Would likely have to go back pretty far to find the last -5 posted at NU. But, hey, everybody's blaming it all on Ruck, so I guess it was just pure coincidence that there was a Dman on the ice for all 5 even strength goals scored by the other team and neither of the two even strength goals scored by his own team. Ruck has been bad and should sit for a while, but 17 straight games with the same D corps during a horrible stretch of goals against makes no sense, either. Not saying that the guys sitting in the stands are better, but results matter and if there is no competition for spots in practice, then the compete level in the games will suffer.

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  • Gr8Sk8M8
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    Originally posted by PPGuru View Post
    Just watched the replay of goal #1 to see if I missed something re: Gaudette on that play. After seeing this several times, I still put the onus on Ruck. What I didn't notice live was that Cockerill played it poorly also. As the puck carrier comes over the line with a player trailing to possibly drop the puck to, Davies and Gaudette are in position covering those two. The wing on the far side drives to the net and Cockerill has a choice: go to the that third man or wait and cherry pick the cross ice pass. (Schule is coming back hard to cover the front of the net if Cockerill pursues the far wing.) Cockerill decides to try to pick off the pass and is slow/late in doing so. Ruck, following the play, is late/slow tracking the puck across ice. (Perhaps Ruck thought Cockerill would intercept the pass easily?) When Cockerill fails to stop the pass, Ruck is not in position and the goal is scored from a pretty weak angle. Just my take on it.
    Maybe we see the game differently, which is fine, but imho Gaudette, as centre, has the puck carrier as his assignment coming back into the zone...and while the "stick on hips" might have been a bit of hyperbole, he did nothing to disrupt that puck carrier or that pass...that was my point...someone has to make the puck carrier see less of the ice...

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  • Gr8Sk8M8
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    Originally posted by NU_Husky View Post
    Which makes me wonder why they have two options that they brought in, clearly thinking they can play at the D1 level, but can't sniff the starting gig. Why bring in players onto the roster if you do not think they can play, and when the player in front of them ****s the bed like Ruck has been doing, why don't the backups get a run? we've seen Maine, BU, UNH, Merrimack, to name a few locally, that had goalie rotations and backups get serious minutes during a year. It's not like it's a novel idea
    BTW, now that he's healthy Frye was hurt for a good snick of the season and really was not part of any competition...then again, he flunked out of NDTP...

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  • Gr8Sk8M8
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    Re: Northeastern Huskies 2016-17 -- Great Expectations

    Originally posted by NU_Husky View Post
    Which makes me wonder why they have two options that they brought in, clearly thinking they can play at the D1 level, but can't sniff the starting gig. Why bring in players onto the roster if you do not think they can play, and when the player in front of them ****s the bed like Ruck has been doing, why don't the backups get a run? we've seen Maine, BU, UNH, Merrimack, to name a few locally, that had goalie rotations and backups get serious minutes during a year. It's not like it's a novel idea

    BTW, all three NU goalies are on scholarship of varying degrees.

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  • Gr8Sk8M8
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    Originally posted by Lemonade View Post
    Primeau should be the answer - maybe a year too late though.
    Someone, may have been you, stated that Filipe came in a year too early. That could be correct but then I see him over the last couple of few games and wonder when the "Breakout" is going to happen...I really believe that he's less than a 1/4 beat away from a 3-4 point game...

    Back to last night...

    Gaudette -4
    Schule -3
    Griffin -3
    Gaudette -4
    Davies -5

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  • NU_Husky
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    Originally posted by Lemonade View Post
    As posters mentioned - most coaches arent adequate recruiters nor proper evaluators of goaltenders. Most coaches werent goalies and arent certain what to look for - and to be honest its a hard position to project. It appears that Primeau coming in next year is the solution. Coaches know they cant screw up the goalie slot on their team - they usually only carry 2 with the 3rd being a non-scholarship player. You cant afford to miss on a goalie like you can on a forward or dman. The young blue chip goalies are few and far between but are scooped up early in the recruiting process the rest of the goalies is a huge waiting game as the pool gets cloudy. Primeau should be the answer - maybe a year too late though.
    Which makes me wonder why they have two options that they brought in, clearly thinking they can play at the D1 level, but can't sniff the starting gig. Why bring in players onto the roster if you do not think they can play, and when the player in front of them ****s the bed like Ruck has been doing, why don't the backups get a run? we've seen Maine, BU, UNH, Merrimack, to name a few locally, that had goalie rotations and backups get serious minutes during a year. It's not like it's a novel idea

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  • PPGuru
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    Originally posted by Gr8Sk8M8 View Post
    As bad as Ruck was...goal # 1 and goal #3 are both on the defense with an assist on goal #1 to Gaudette...you have ZAR giving up a hand or arm to block a shot...you have Stevens throwing his body around on bodies and in front of pucks...and UNH scores on, essentially, a 2 on 3 cross-ice pass through three wickets because #8 watches the play with stick on hips and the defense is in LaLa Land...
    Just watched the replay of goal #1 to see if I missed something re: Gaudette on that play. After seeing this several times, I still put the onus on Ruck. What I didn't notice live was that Cockerill played it poorly also. As the puck carrier comes over the line with a player trailing to possibly drop the puck to, Davies and Gaudette are in position covering those two. The wing on the far side drives to the net and Cockerill has a choice: go to the that third man or wait and cherry pick the cross ice pass. (Schule is coming back hard to cover the front of the net if Cockerill pursues the far wing.) Cockerill decides to try to pick off the pass and is slow/late in doing so. Ruck, following the play, is late/slow tracking the puck across ice. (Perhaps Ruck thought Cockerill would intercept the pass easily?) When Cockerill fails to stop the pass, Ruck is not in position and the goal is scored from a pretty weak angle. Just my take on it.

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  • Lemonade
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    Originally posted by Gr8Sk8M8 View Post
    It certainly is a big hole in their recruiting. Their attitude about it ("We don't depend on our goaltending to win games") is somewhat troubling.

    Out front, this is arguably one of the best teams that they've ever put on the ice. Jerry Keefe deserves every accolade for bringing these guys in over the likes of Notre Dame, Maine and Providence and getting to the front of the line when ZAR decomm'd from Brown. Charlie Williams was a late commit...Lukas Haffner...late commit...Eamon McAdams...late commit to a new program...Nick Ellis ripe for the plucking prior to when Gilles switched...Kyle Hayton...late commit...each and every one of those goalies was a starter for a USHL team that NU was a regular presence in scouting...with the exception of Hayton, not one of them was ever approached.
    As posters mentioned - most coaches arent adequate recruiters nor proper evaluators of goaltenders. Most coaches werent goalies and arent certain what to look for - and to be honest its a hard position to project. It appears that Primeau coming in next year is the solution. Coaches know they cant screw up the goalie slot on their team - they usually only carry 2 with the 3rd being a non-scholarship player. You cant afford to miss on a goalie like you can on a forward or dman. The young blue chip goalies are few and far between but are scooped up early in the recruiting process the rest of the goalies is a huge waiting game as the pool gets cloudy. Primeau should be the answer - maybe a year too late though.

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  • Gr8Sk8M8
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    Originally posted by NU_Husky View Post
    Another poster mentioned this last night after we ran Ruck's updated numbers. Remember when Roy was saving 84% overall last year and we were freaking out, begging for him to be replaced?
    It certainly is a big hole in their recruiting. Their attitude about it ("We don't depend on our goaltending to win games") is somewhat troubling.

    Out front, this is arguably one of the best teams that they've ever put on the ice. Jerry Keefe deserves every accolade for bringing these guys in over the likes of Notre Dame, Maine and Providence and getting to the front of the line when ZAR decomm'd from Brown. Charlie Williams was a late commit...Lukas Haffner...late commit...Eamon McAdams...late commit to a new program...Nick Ellis ripe for the plucking prior to when Gilles switched...Kyle Hayton...late commit...each and every one of those goalies was a starter for a USHL team that NU was a regular presence in scouting...with the exception of Hayton, not one of them was ever approached.

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  • NU_Husky
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    Another poster mentioned this last night after we ran Ruck's updated numbers. Remember when Roy was saving 84% overall last year and we were freaking out, begging for him to be replaced?

    Ruck is at 86.6% in HEA play, 88.4% overall, and does not have a single demographic that he is above 90% against now. We didn't think Ruck could [B]possibly[B] be as bad as Roy was last year, statistically. We were wrong, Jim was wrong, voters in preseason polls were wrong. Ruck is trending downwards with no real hope of reversal. He has allowed 2 goals or fewer ONCE in HEA play this year. And that one time, it was 2 goals exactly. And we lost 2-1.

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