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  • #31
    Originally posted by John J. MacInnes View Post
    The word they were looking for was "The Feeble Big Ten Hockey Conference".
    But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

    The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

    They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.
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    • #32
      Originally posted by Happy View Post
      I was just thinking how a powerful league like the Big Ten could probably push the NCAA around, instead of having them dictate things like names, mascots, and such. You guys might be able to recruit enough old Canadians to win at hockey, but you will never win a championship in the top NCAA division in any other sport, ever.
      A UND kid was the D1 baseball home run derby Champion last year. So technically you are wrong.

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      • #33
        Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

        Originally posted by joecct View Post
        But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

        The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

        They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.
        While you left out/forgot about the MAC (BG, Western Michigan, Miami State), your gnat point is still valid.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by joecct View Post
          But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

          The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

          They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.
          Well, game results go differently then we have a different convo. Fact is for better/worse the Big10 underperformed at a critical change point in the scene.

          I think that the Big10's egg laying has been a benefit to the rest.
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          • #35
            Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

            Wow. Where to start....
            This piece is truly art. Whomever wrote this should probably be reminded his/her rear end is not a hat.

            The bi6 is a joke. Sure they may be feared, or at the very least respected in football and bouncy ball, but bthc is the laughing stock of D-1 hockey. Heck, they probably rank 5th/6 in conferences

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            • #36
              Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

              The thing to remember is this. As Donald Trump has demonstrated, no matter how incompetent you may be, exhorbitant sums of money will still cause you to have some success. B1G hockey will ultimately be successful in spite of themselves simply because of all the money thrown at them for football and basketball.
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              • #37
                Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

                Originally posted by Sioux-perDrunk View Post
                A UND kid was the D1 baseball home run derby Champion last year. So technically you are wrong.
                Nope.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Happy View Post
                  Nope.
                  I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?

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                  • #39
                    Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

                    Originally posted by Sioux-perDrunk View Post
                    I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?
                    I have no idea what Happy thinks, but I don't think a home run derby championship counts for anything at any level. Baseball is a team sport and winning a home run derby does nothing to help a team win the championship. Winning an individual title in sports that have both team and individual competition, i.e., golf, tennis, swimming, wrestling, etc., does count, but in those sports you need the individuals to win to help the team win.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

                      Originally posted by Sioux-perDrunk View Post
                      I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?
                      just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Sean Pickett View Post
                        I have no idea what Happy thinks, but I don't think a home run derby championship counts for anything at any level. Baseball is a team sport and winning a home run derby does nothing to help a team win the championship. Winning an individual title in sports that have both team and individual competition, i.e., golf, tennis, swimming, wrestling, etc., does count, but in those sports you need the individuals to win to help the team win.

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                        ?? The home run derby is a separate tournament then the CWS tournament but It is an individual competition between all the D1 teams that make the cut. So how does it not count? Because you don't want it to?

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by pokechecker View Post
                          just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida
                          I said he was a UND kid so where in that did you think I said he was from ND?

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                          • #43
                            Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

                            Originally posted by pokechecker View Post
                            just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida
                            So you are saying UND's hockey players aren't from Canada? They are actually from Florida? You'll be kicked out of Gopher fandom for saying such a thing.
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                            • #44
                              Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

                              Originally posted by Sioux-perDrunk View Post
                              ?? The home run derby is a separate tournament then the CWS tournament but It is an individual competition between all the D1 teams that make the cut. So how does it not count? Because you don't want it to?
                              I looked and I didn't see a NCAA championship listed for home run derby. Here are the sports I did see that the NCAA sponsors championships in:

                              Division I Fall Sports
                              Cross Country (M/W)
                              Field Hockey
                              Football
                              Soccer (M)
                              Soccer (W)
                              Volleyball (W)
                              National Collegiate Water Polo (M)

                              Division I Winter Sports
                              Basketball (M)
                              Basketball (W)
                              National Collegiate Bowling
                              National Collegiate Fencing
                              National Collegiate Gymnastics (M)
                              National Collegiate Gymnastics (W)
                              Ice Hockey (M)
                              National Collegiate Ice Hockey (W)
                              National Collegiate Rifle (M/W)
                              National Collegiate Skiing (M/W)
                              Swimming and Diving (M/W)
                              Indoor Track and Field (M/W)
                              Wrestling

                              Division I Spring Sports
                              Baseball
                              Golf (M)
                              Golf (W)
                              Lacrosse (M)
                              Lacrosse (W)
                              Rowing
                              Softball
                              Tennis (M/W)
                              Outdoor Track and Field (M/W)
                              National Collegiate Beach Volleyball (W)
                              National Collegiate Volleyball (M)
                              National Collegiate Water Polo (W)

                              I also looked for home run derby on the UND athletics website but was unable to find it listed. The sports UND listed as sponsoring are:
                              Baseball (M)
                              Basketball (M/W)
                              Cross Country (M/W)
                              Football
                              Golf (M/W)
                              Hockey (M/W)
                              Soccer (W)
                              Softball (W)
                              Swimming & Diving (M/W)
                              Tennis (M/W)
                              Track & Field (M/W)
                              Volleyball (W)

                              So it's not me that doesn't count it as a sport, its UND and the NCAA that don't count it as a sport.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Sean Pickett View Post
                                So it's not me that doesn't count it as a sport, its UND and the NCAA that don't count it as a sport.

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