Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

?? The home run derby is a separate tournament then the CWS tournament but It is an individual competition between all the D1 teams that make the cut. So how does it not count? Because you don't want it to?

I looked and I didn't see a NCAA championship listed for home run derby. Here are the sports I did see that the NCAA sponsors championships in:

Division I Fall Sports
Cross Country (M/W)
Field Hockey
Football
Soccer (M)
Soccer (W)
Volleyball (W)
National Collegiate Water Polo (M)

Division I Winter Sports
Basketball (M)
Basketball (W)
National Collegiate Bowling
National Collegiate Fencing
National Collegiate Gymnastics (M)
National Collegiate Gymnastics (W)
Ice Hockey (M)
National Collegiate Ice Hockey (W)
National Collegiate Rifle (M/W)
National Collegiate Skiing (M/W)
Swimming and Diving (M/W)
Indoor Track and Field (M/W)
Wrestling

Division I Spring Sports
Baseball
Golf (M)
Golf (W)
Lacrosse (M)
Lacrosse (W)
Rowing
Softball
Tennis (M/W)
Outdoor Track and Field (M/W)
National Collegiate Beach Volleyball (W)
National Collegiate Volleyball (M)
National Collegiate Water Polo (W)

I also looked for home run derby on the UND athletics website but was unable to find it listed. The sports UND listed as sponsoring are:
Baseball (M)
Basketball (M/W)
Cross Country (M/W)
Football
Golf (M/W)
Hockey (M/W)
Soccer (W)
Softball (W)
Swimming & Diving (M/W)
Tennis (M/W)
Track & Field (M/W)
Volleyball (W)

So it's not me that doesn't count it as a sport, its UND and the NCAA that don't count it as a sport.

Sean

[Dirty]

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just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida

So you are saying UND's hockey players aren't from Canada? They are actually from Florida? You'll be kicked out of Gopher fandom for saying such a thing.

[Sioux-perDrunk]

just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida

I said he was a UND kid so where in that did you think I said he was from ND?

[Sioux-perDrunk]

I have no idea what Happy thinks, but I don't think a home run derby championship counts for anything at any level. Baseball is a team sport and winning a home run derby does nothing to help a team win the championship. Winning an individual title in sports that have both team and individual competition, i.e., golf, tennis, swimming, wrestling, etc., does count, but in those sports you need the individuals to win to help the team win.

Sean

?? The home run derby is a separate tournament then the CWS tournament but It is an individual competition between all the D1 teams that make the cut. So how does it not count? Because you don't want it to?

[pokechecker]

Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?

just like your hockey players, Campbell is not from South Manitoba, he is from Florida

[Sean Pickett]

Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?

I have no idea what Happy thinks, but I don't think a home run derby championship counts for anything at any level. Baseball is a team sport and winning a home run derby does nothing to help a team win the championship. Winning an individual title in sports that have both team and individual competition, i.e., golf, tennis, swimming, wrestling, etc., does count, but in those sports you need the individuals to win to help the team win.

Sean

[Sioux-perDrunk]

Nope.

I'm curious to what you mean by nope. Nope as in you don't think a und kid won it or nope that it doesn't count?

[Happy]

Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

A UND kid was the D1 baseball home run derby Champion last year. So technically you are wrong.

Nope.

[SJHovey]

Re: Article on advantages Big 10 Hockey has over other schools.

The thing to remember is this. As Donald Trump has demonstrated, no matter how incompetent you may be, exhorbitant sums of money will still cause you to have some success. B1G hockey will ultimately be successful in spite of themselves simply because of all the money thrown at them for football and basketball.

[Rhett Hot]

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Wow. Where to start....
This piece is truly art. Whomever wrote this should probably be reminded his/her rear end is not a hat.

The bi6 is a joke. Sure they may be feared, or at the very least respected in football and bouncy ball, but bthc is the laughing stock of D-1 hockey. Heck, they probably rank 5th/6 in conferences

[Patman]

But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.

Well, game results go differently then we have a different convo. Fact is for better/worse the Big10 underperformed at a critical change point in the scene.

I think that the Big10's egg laying has been a benefit to the rest.

[TalonsUpPuckDown]

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But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.

While you left out/forgot about the MAC (BG, Western Michigan, Miami State), your gnat point is still valid.

[Sioux-perDrunk]

I was just thinking how a powerful league like the Big Ten could probably push the NCAA around, instead of having them dictate things like names, mascots, and such. You guys might be able to recruit enough old Canadians to win at hockey, but you will never win a championship in the top NCAA division in any other sport, ever.

A UND kid was the D1 baseball home run derby Champion last year. So technically you are wrong.

[joecct]

The word they were looking for was "The Feeble Big Ten Hockey Conference".

But face it. When the BTHC was announced, everyone thought it would be the 10 ton gorilla in college hockey - hence the NCHC.

The on ice product leaves a bit to be desired, but off the ice, tbe B1G can force college hockey in any way it pleases.

They need a counter and the only other multisport D1 conference is the Ivy League and they don't have enough voting power to stop a horde of gnats.

[John J. MacInnes]

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"The Fabled Big Ten Hockey Conference"?? Fabled is not one of the adjectives that comes to mind when thinking about Big 10 hockey.

The word they were looking for was "The Feeble Big Ten Hockey Conference".