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Originally posted by SteveO View PostNo plans? "I’m thinking in the next 18 to 24 months, we should have shovels in the ground...."
Source: ASU Devils.com (February, 7, 2016)
Originally posted by Dirty View PostOh the butthurt will just never end, will it? So amusing!Originally posted by St. Clown View PostThe NCHC isn't going to shed either of its Minnesota teams. Both teams were strong all year... neither school would be interested in returning to a struggling WCHA.... DU and UND started the NCHC ... to make them money... woo the schools that are making money for DU and UND....
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostThis is a statement that I find just silly. But don't feel bad, you're not the only person here who has posted something similar.
It is this outrage over the "clandestine" way in which DU and UND acted, and how that somehow "created" the problems.
What would have happened if, after the B1G announces they are forming, DU and UND announced they were thinking of forming a new conference on their own with some yet to be named teams? You think all the remaining teams in the CCHA and WCHA would have said, "yeah, let's get together and put together two new conferences?"
B.S.
There would have been screaming. Lawsuits would have been threatened. It would have been chaos. Impossible to get anything productive accomplished.
I find it funny that everyone seems to think its ok for the B1G schools to choose who they want to be in a conference with, it's ok for Michigan and MSU and Notre Dame and Tech and NMU to decide, multiple times, they no longer want to be associated with one group of teams but want to be associated with another group of teams, its ok for a bunch of teams in the old ECAC to decide they wanted to form another new conference entirely and name it Hockey East, but somehow DU and UND screwed up the entirety of college hockey."The use of common sense and logic will not be tolerated and may result in fine and/or suspension."- Western Professional Hockey League By-laws. 1999-2000.
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The constant criticism of what happened to the WCHA and creation of the Big whatever and NCHC is getting old. It's done and there's nothing any one of us can do about it. I miss old rivalries that Tech was a part of, but they're now in a position to succeed and have legitimate conference championship and NCAA tournament aspirations each year. Hopefully that trend continues and best of luck to ASU wherever you land and call your home rink.
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Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View PostOh the arrogance will just never end, will it? So amusing!
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Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View PostIn other words, in one to two years they should have a plan on how they will get a rink. Ok, I was mistaken, ASU is at least 4-5 years from having a rink. Two years ago was the time to have a plan,before you started the team. Now was the time to be taking action on that plan.
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Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View PostASU has no plans
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Originally posted by SteveO View PostAccording to ASU's Vice President for University Athletics you are wrong. In regards to you questioning the VPs statement and timetable, you should contact him.
Point is: plans change. Are they less likely to change at a large university like ASU? Yes, but cost is a huge factor (see why UAH hasn't built that rink).
GFM
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Originally posted by giwan View PostIf EMU is unwilling to downsize their sports juggernaut how can you justify any other school to do so. Granted no hockey at EMU but they recently were made a mockery of nationally on HBO Sports
Here is an article I saw regarding the cost of college athletics, and basically confirmed what the Real Sports segment conveyed. Two or three dozen programs will make money through their athletics, but over 300 of the 340 or so NCAA member institutions will not.
ASU is not one of the profitable programs. You'll note they've seen substantial increases in their revenue since 2004, but still lost $8.4 million in 2014.
At some point these schools are going to take a hard look at programs, like UND recently did with golf and baseball, and try to stop the bleeding. With tuition and student fees skyrocketing, and student debt reaching impossible levels, something is going to change and the dollars to throw at new hockey rinks is going to disappear.That community is already in the process of dissolution where each man begins to eye his neighbor as a possible enemy, where non-conformity with the accepted creed, political as well as religious, is a mark of disaffection; where denunciation, without specification or backing, takes the place of evidence; where orthodoxy chokes freedom of dissent; where faith in the eventual supremacy of reason has become so timid that we dare not enter our convictions in the open lists, to win or lose.
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Originally posted by SJHovey View PostThat was a really good segment (in fact, the entire show was good).
Here is an article I saw regarding the cost of college athletics, and basically confirmed what the Real Sports segment conveyed. Two or three dozen programs will make money through their athletics, but over 300 of the 340 or so NCAA member institutions will not.
ASU is not one of the profitable programs. You'll note they've seen substantial increases in their revenue since 2004, but still lost $8.4 million in 2014.
At some point these schools are going to take a hard look at programs, like UND recently did with golf and baseball, and try to stop the bleeding. With tuition and student fees skyrocketing, and student debt reaching impossible levels, something is going to change and the dollars to throw at new hockey rinks is going to disappear.
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Originally posted by JohnsonsJerseys View PostOh the arrogance will just never end, will it? So amusing!
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Originally posted by St. Clown View PostThe WCHA is struggling financially...
Even when Tech was a "drain" on the WCHA, as some former members like to claim, Tech spent the money to keep investing in the team / facilities. New seating in the rink, new suites, new HD video board, new ice plant, more money spent on coaches' salaries, etc. Now that they win more than they lose, they're getting their money back on those investments in terms of dollars at the gates and better recruits on the ice. If WCHA programs are so broke as outsiders like to claim... Well, I don't see any of them dropping hockey and getting out of the game...
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Originally posted by geezerTech has the best of everything, even the best jersey nerd.Originally posted by manurespreader...I really enjoyed listening to Ryan Johnson. He sounded intelligent.
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Originally posted by Sean Pickett View PostAren't college athletics supposed to be for the student athlete?
I thought colleges were to educate 100% of enrolled students, not fund athletics programs for 4% of enrolled students.
Why should the vast majority of students get saddled with rising costs/fees to cover athletics so a few can play games?The preceding post may contain trigger words and is not safe-space approved. <-- Virtue signaling.
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