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    Jayson Moy's bracketology

    I differ on the B1G champion. Since I deal only with PairWise I assume Michigan will win and put the cut line at 15. Since Minnesota is hosting it makes a huge difference for North Dakota.

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      As I mentioned a few posts ago ticapnews, THG is proud to announce our very own pairwise predictor. More features to come, but for now, you can predict results for everything this weekend and it will auto fill the rest as you go, including 3rd games in series if necessary and semifinal, third place, championship matchups for all conference tournaments!

      Check it out:
      http://techhockeyguide.com/news/2016/3/10/introducing
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      • Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
        As I mentioned a few posts ago ticapnews, THG is proud to announce our very own pairwise predictors. More features to come, but for new, you can predict results for everything this weekend and it will auto fill the rest as you go, including 3rd games in series if necessary and semifinal, third place, championship matchups for all conference tournaments!

        Check it out:
        http://techhockeyguide.com/news/2016/3/10/introducing
        Sweet! I'll check it out in the morning!

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        • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

          http://www.uscho.com/bracketology/20...as-no-1-seeds/

          Bracketology Blog

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          • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

            Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
            As I mentioned a few posts ago ticapnews, THG is proud to announce our very own pairwise predictor. More features to come, but for now, you can predict results for everything this weekend and it will auto fill the rest as you go, including 3rd games in series if necessary and semifinal, third place, championship matchups for all conference tournaments!

            Check it out:
            http://techhockeyguide.com/news/2016/3/10/introducing
            So far, I would take from this that the CHN simulation still has bugs in it... or this has bugs in it... or both... I'm leaning tothe idea CHN has bugs... Mankato to a 3rd place in PWR would require a lot of ground to cover in terms of RPI.
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              Originally posted by Patman View Post
              So far, I would take from this that the CHN simulation still has bugs in it... or this has bugs in it... or both... I'm leaning tothe idea CHN has bugs... Mankato to a 3rd place in PWR would require a lot of ground to cover in terms of RPI.
              yeah, that 0% there doesn't make any sense, no way Minnesota State gets to 3rd but can't get to 4-12...not sure about that one.
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                Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                yeah, that 0% there doesn't make any sense, no way Minnesota State gets to 3rd but can't get to 4-12...not sure about that one.
                in theory one could just get a long tail pull... as I said before... but not enough can actually happen for it to occur once you get in the weeds.

                Let's put it this way, I'd check it if I were them even without pushing from others.
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                • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                  Originally posted by Patman View Post
                  in theory would could just get a long tail pull... as I said before... but not enough can actually happen for it to occur once you get in the weeds.

                  Let's put it this way, I'd check it if I were them even without pushing from others.
                  yeah, its one thing to have the 0% by MTU for getting to 10th, even though I can't seem to get there.
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                  • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                    Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                    yeah, its one thing to have the 0% by MTU for getting to 10th, even though I can't seem to get there.
                    trust and programming are two things that don't belong together
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                    • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                      Originally posted by Patman View Post
                      trust and programming are two things that don't belong together
                      it doesn't mean it isn't possible...it takes just the right outcomes to maximize MTU's RPI while hurting the right teams. I tried to calculate who MTU wants to win every game based on their schedule, but that's tough too...haven't quite gotten it right yet.
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                      • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                        I was just playing with the new PairWise Predictor and the first scenario I put in yielded an interesting result. All 6 conference autobids went to teams in the top 16, meaning no cut line for the first time in history. To do this I had all #1 seeds except Minnesota win the conference playoffs. It also works if Minnesota wins the B1G and Omaha and Cornell both get swept in the first round.

                        ETA: Also if Penn State wins the B1G. Basically, if RMU wins the AHA autobid and Michigan Tech the WCHA autobid then if any of the high seeds in the other four conferences win then there will be no cut line.
                        Last edited by ticapnews; 03-11-2016, 09:47 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by Shirtless Guy View Post
                          it doesn't mean it isn't possible...it takes just the right outcomes to maximize MTU's RPI while hurting the right teams. I tried to calculate who MTU wants to win every game based on their schedule, but that's tough too...haven't quite gotten it right yet.
                          And I'm saying once one tests for bugs they should test again
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                          • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                            In:
                            North Dakota
                            St Cloud
                            Denver
                            Boston College
                            Providence
                            Boston University
                            Quinnipiac

                            Everyone else can still be eliminated and has more work to do.

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                            • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                              Eliminated:
                              Alabama-Huntsville
                              Alaska-Anchorage
                              American International
                              Arizona State
                              Brown
                              Colgate
                              Connecticut
                              Maine
                              Massachusetts
                              New Hampshire
                              Niagara
                              Princeton
                              Sacred Heart
                              Union

                              Need AQ:
                              Air Force
                              Alaska
                              Army
                              Bemidji State
                              Bentley
                              Bowling Green
                              Canisius
                              Colorado College
                              Dartmouth
                              Ferris State
                              Holy Cross
                              Lake Superior
                              Mercyhurst
                              Merrimack
                              Miami
                              Michigan State
                              Minnesota
                              Minnesota State
                              Northern Michigan
                              Ohio State
                              Rensselaer
                              RIT
                              Robert Morris
                              St. Lawrence
                              Vermont
                              Western Michigan
                              Wisconsin
                              Last edited by ticapnews; 03-12-2016, 01:39 PM.

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                              • Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

                                Minnesota State (Mankato) is #20 and Miami is #25. Is it possible that they could win every game except the championship of their conference tournament and still get an at-large bid? For example, if Mankato beats Lake Superior, beats Bowling Green/Northern Michigan, and then loses to Michigan Tech, that may be enough to get them in. Same for Miami if they win 2 at UMD, beat North Dakota, and then lose to Denver or St Cloud if those scenarios play out.

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