pairwise -- post jan 8th

[ticapnews]

it's not even 100 miles difference. More like 30.

It's 50 miles. And they have to drive home or do you think they'll move to Albany?

[The Rube]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

Yes, clearly I am the moron who doesnt recognize the mathematical value of threeve. Is it greater or less than fifty-leven?

It's more than fifty-leven, but less than Texas$

[J.D.]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

For some reason tipcapnews has always struggled with understanding the attendance factor. Quinnipiac to albany would hardly be a screw job.

[MarkEagleUSA]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

As a selfish Bobcat fan I want Worcester because it's 60 miles closer AND is Fri-Sat vs Sat-Sun.

Why should the #1 seed be moved to accommodate the Boston area fans?

[Dutchman]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

Albany is the home of the ECAC and Union and RPI are the hosts this year. Albany is also more central to all other the ECAC teams than Worcester. Qpack most likely had to pass through Albany on the way to Lake Placid so they know the way and will not get lost. Did RIT upset Minnesota last year? Do you think they can do it again?

[goblue78]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

I just have a higher threshold for "getting screwed." The total distance really depends on exactly where the fans are located. Those in Fairfield county are probably closer to Albany while those closer to Hartford are closer to Worcester. Students in buses don't give a ****. All I'm saying is that from QPac's persepective it's close to a wash. Even if on balance they'd slightly prefer Worcester (which I doubt) it can't be a big deal, while it would be a pretty big difference to the Boston area fans.

I guess I should add the data point that I'm going either way. (But then I'd fly to St. Paul, too.)

Edit: I had no idea they censored the word that ends the phrase about Scarlett and what he frankly doesn't give.

[PrezdeJohnson09]

this makes the most sense to me maximizing bracket integrity and attendance.

Albany - Quinnipiac, Lowell, Yale, RIT

Worcester - Providence, Boston College, Harvard, Minnesota-Duluth

Cincinnati - North Dakota, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ferris State

St. Paul- St. Cloud State, Denver, Boston University, Northeastern

[tape]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

it's not even 100 miles difference. More like 30.

[goblue78]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

Just in this thread we have heard from a Quinnipiac fan who would attend in Worcester but isn't going to make the extra 100 mile commute to Albany. 200 miles if they advance. Leagues have hosted before and their champion has been placed in other regions. It hasn't been an argument before.

And I know 3 guys from QPac (living in Westchester) who'll go to Albany but not Worcester. Again, I suspect a vote would go to Albany. Does that make a difference to you or not. (Not that there'll be a vote, so it's academic... but I'm interested.)

[ticapnews]

I just don't see how Quinnipiac is being "screwed over" here. First off, if you *asked* them, I bet they'd choose Albany. Would that make a difference to you? The distance really is trivial, and it's a major inconvenience to Boston area fans for whom Albany is much less feasible as a day trip. And, of course, the ECAC is nominally the host at Albany (not RPI or Union), so why shouldn't their champion be put there? It's not just attendance either, either... it's *who* attends. Quinnipiac will have a much more friendly audience in Albany than in Worcester... that's certain, especially in the same bracket as Lowell.

Just in this thread we have heard from a Quinnipiac fan who would attend in Worcester but isn't going to make the extra 100 mile commute to Albany. 200 miles if they advance. Leagues have hosted before and their champion has been placed in other regions. It hasn't been an argument before.

[Red Hockey]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

QU travels to the Albany area every season anyway (Union and RPI). This wouldn't be any different really.

[goblue78]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

I just don't see how Quinnipiac is being "screwed over" here. First off, if you *asked* them, I bet they'd choose Albany. Would that make a difference to you? The distance really is trivial, and it's a major inconvenience to Boston area fans for whom Albany is much less feasible as a day trip. And, of course, the ECAC is nominally the host at Albany (not RPI or Union), so why shouldn't their champion be put there? It's not just attendance either, either... it's *who* attends. Quinnipiac will have a much more friendly audience in Albany than in Worcester... that's certain, especially in the same bracket as Lowell.

[burd]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

BC is always a problem for UND, of course, but I think many of us F'Hawkers are really interested in seeing Michigan, Q, and Northeastern play. Looks like we will get to see two of those next weekend.

[ticapnews]

Re: pairwise -- post jan 8th

You would see a slight increase in attendance at Worcester but attendance in Albany would decrease, and all at the expense of the overall #1 seed. I'm sure the money grabbers at the NC$$ will be excited about the prospect of selling even one more ticket. They threw integrity away last year by keeping the last team in the tournament at home so I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw Quinnipiac to the wolves yet again.

If we are worried about attendance that much just replay the Hockey East tournament in Worcester and have Quinnipiac play the Capital District All-Stars in Albany.

Or maybe they could lower the ticket prices and become more family friendly since they are in the heart of the family-friendly AHL. Nah. Let's just screw over Quinnipiac again.

[QUAlum2004]

Playing Devil's Advocate here, but what if you sent the Quinnipiac bracket to Albany and the Providence bracket to Worcester?

Would you have better attendance - especially @ Worcester?

Why favor providence? They got favored last year as a lower seed than Quinnipiac and were kept east while providence stayed home. They shouldn't be given a favor to Worcester when Quinnipiac is the number 1 overall seed.