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  • #16
    Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

    The PWR is getting interesting. If BC keeps losing and the teams beat each other up you might end up with only 3 teams from HE (maybe even 2 if it really gets bad). UVM is now 10th and controls their path from here on out (leading team in HE PWR). That out of conference schedule is looming very large right now with the Yale, UMD, and Denver wins. It's great that they play such a good schedule (and for those who said "it's only Yale not like it's a real team" etc...this is what will save UVM right now if they barely make it in) it will definitely help in March if they struggle.

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    • #17
      Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

      Originally posted by kdaddy View Post
      The PWR is getting interesting. If BC keeps losing and the teams beat each other up you might end up with only 3 teams from HE (maybe even 2 if it really gets bad). UVM is now 10th and controls their path from here on out (leading team in HE PWR). That out of conference schedule is looming very large right now with the Yale, UMD, and Denver wins. It's great that they play such a good schedule (and for those who said "it's only Yale not like it's a real team" etc...this is what will save UVM right now if they barely make it in) it will definitely help in March if they struggle.
      Looks like they stay there after the weekend. Still control their destiny.

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      • #18
        Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

        Originally posted by kdaddy View Post
        Looks like they stay there after the weekend. Still control their destiny.
        Weekend is not over yet. Denver is still playing -watching on Fox Sports Rocky Mountain. They are tied with Alaska, tied last night. Vermont needs them to win as Denver's tie last night dropped them from 9 to 10. Plus Michigan States win is not post yet.

        A couple games on Sunday probably won't impact them unless Yale loses.
        Remember the 5 "S's" of hockey - Speed, Size, Strength, Skill and Smarts - The more you have of these, the higher level you get to go to....

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        • #19
          Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

          Originally posted by observer85 View Post
          Weekend is not over yet. Denver is still playing -watching on Fox Sports Rocky Mountain. They are tied with Alaska, tied last night. Vermont needs them to win as Denver's tie last night dropped them from 9 to 10. Plus Michigan States win is not post yet.

          A couple games on Sunday probably won't impact them unless Yale loses.
          I meant more vs the other HE teams.

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          • #20
            Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

            You guys are going to give yourselves ulcers if you look at the PWR after each game ends. Wait until the middle of February when you get deep into the conference schedules before you start to feel comfortable/worry with where UVM is situated.

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            • #21
              Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

              I read on a blog, which I consider reliable and trustworthy, that if the team wins its games, the Pairwise will take care of itself.

              Is that reliable and trustworthy or should I ignore that, too?

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              • #22
                Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                Originally posted by grantfan View Post
                I read on a blog, which I consider reliable and trustworthy, that if the team wins its games, the Pairwise will take care of itself.

                Is that reliable and trustworthy or should I ignore that, too?
                Gee, ya think? Obviously if you win your games you have nothing to worry about, but checking the PWR after every game is just ridiculous, especially on January 10th.

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                • #23
                  Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                  UVM needs to play the league games like they have the non-league games = well. If they do that they will take care of their own destiny in the PWR.

                  Clearly they have either played over their head OOC or have underperformed in HE games. I think it's the latter, but we'll see starting next weekend. Three or four points are needed to stay within striking range of home ice.

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                  • #24
                    Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                    Originally posted by grantfan View Post
                    I read on a blog, which I consider reliable and trustworthy, that if the team wins its games, the Pairwise will take care of itself.

                    Is that reliable and trustworthy or should I ignore that, too?
                    Was that the UML thread? No that one isn't trustworthy.

                    Why don't you link us to the threads that are discussing these impending departures so we can all make up our own minds.

                    Great thanks
                    Originally posted by Hokydad
                    Maine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year

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                    • #25
                      Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                      Originally posted by observer85 View Post
                      Weekend is not over yet. Denver is still playing -watching on Fox Sports Rocky Mountain. They are tied with Alaska, tied last night. Vermont needs them to win as Denver's tie last night dropped them from 9 to 10. Plus Michigan States win is not post yet.

                      A couple games on Sunday probably won't impact them unless Yale loses.
                      Denver's tie dropped them to 9-10 in what? They are first in the PWR.
                      Originally posted by Hokydad
                      Maine will be better this year relative to rankings than BC will be this year

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                      • #26
                        Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                        Originally posted by jcarter7669 View Post
                        Denver's tie dropped them to 9-10 in what? They are first in the PWR.

                        I am sure he means dropped Vermont to 9-10.

                        And how about Robert Morris with its home n home sweep of #1 Miami.
                        New Arena New Arena where for art thou New Arena

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                        • #27
                          Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                          Former University of Vermont assistant captain and Shelburne, Vt., native Peter Lenes '09 has been named to the ECHL All-Star Team. Lenes has 11 goals and seven assists for 18 points in 37 games this season playing for the Ontario Reign in the ECHL. Ontario is an affiliate of the NHL’s Los Angeles Kings
                          New Arena New Arena where for art thou New Arena

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                          • #28
                            Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                            Originally posted by Cat lover View Post
                            I am sure he means dropped Vermont to 9-10.

                            And how about Robert Morris with its home n home sweep of #1 Miami.
                            Home and home - Pittsburgh one night and Oxford 2 nights later...long road trip for one game...each team.

                            Yes, I meant Vermont dropping from 9 to 10 after the weekend of games. On Friday, before the games, the top 12 teams looked like this:

                            Jan 8, 2010 Pairwise – prior to weekend games

                            Rk Team PCWs W-L-T Win % RPI
                            1 Miami 24 13-2-5 .7750 .6049
                            2 Denver 23 13-5-2 .7000 .5869
                            3 Ferris State 22 14-4-2 .7500 .5740*
                            4 Colorado College 21 12-5-3 .6750 .5693
                            5 Wisconsin 20 12-5-3 .6750 .5692
                            6t Bemidji State 18 14-4-2 .7500 .5672
                            6t Michigan State 18 14-6-2 .6818 .5645
                            8 Boston College 17 10-5-2 .6471 .5563*
                            9t Vermont 15 10-6-2 .6111 .5540*
                            9t St. Cloud State 15 10-7-3 .5750 .5505
                            11 Minnesota-Duluth 14 12-7-1 .6250 .5502
                            12t Yale 12 8-3-3 .6786 .5502
                            12t North Dakota 12 10-6-4 .6000 .5500
                            12t Massachusetts 12 11-7-0 .6111 .5384

                            Then as of Today (Monday) they look like this:

                            Jan 11, 2010 Pairwise – after weekend of games


                            Rk Team PCWs W-L-T Win % RPI
                            1 Denver 24 14-5-3 .7045 .5843
                            2t Miami 22 13-4-5 .7045 .5793
                            2t Ferris State 22 16-4-2 .7727 .5763*
                            4t Wisconsin 20 12-5-3 .6750 .5687
                            4t Bemidji State 20 14-4-2 .7500 .5636
                            4t Minnesota-Duluth 20 14-7-1 .6591 .5613
                            7 Michigan State 18 15-6-3 .6875 .5613
                            8 Colorado College 17 12-7-3 .6136 .5574
                            9 North Dakota 16 12-6-4 .6364 .5587
                            10t Vermont 14 10-6-2 .6111 .5492*
                            10t St. Cloud State 14 12-7-3 .6136 .5543
                            12 Yale 13 9-3-3 .7000 .5510*



                            What I find interesting is that Vermont dropped 1 place (and yes, I understand this is pre-mature to be following...but it is like fantasy football, if it were not for fantasy football, the NFL would not be much fun following).

                            Minnesota Duluth won 2 big games at home versus Colorado College, went from 11th to 6th; Denver split but went to #1 and Yale has 4 wins and 1 tie (including a 6-1 win over Ferris State) in their last 5 games, but pretty much stayed the same. Yet, Vermont, who has wins over all 3 of these teams, dropped a slot. Guess I was thinking as these teams climbed, Vermont would climb too with their wins over them. Perhaps the 3 game losing stretch Boston College is on is having more weight on Vermont than anything else?

                            Just curious...
                            Last edited by observer85; 01-11-2010, 10:05 PM.
                            Remember the 5 "S's" of hockey - Speed, Size, Strength, Skill and Smarts - The more you have of these, the higher level you get to go to....

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                            • #29
                              Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                              Originally posted by observer85 View Post
                              Home and home - Pittsburgh one night and Oxford 2 nights later...long road trip for one game...each team.

                              Yes, I meant Vermont dropping from 9 to 10 after the weekend of games. On Friday, before the games, the top 12 teams looked like this:

                              Jan 8, 2010 Pairwise – prior to weekend games

                              Rk Team PCWs W-L-T Win % RPI
                              1 Miami 24 13-2-5 .7750 .6049
                              2 Denver 23 13-5-2 .7000 .5869
                              3 Ferris State 22 14-4-2 .7500 .5740*
                              4 Colorado College 21 12-5-3 .6750 .5693
                              5 Wisconsin 20 12-5-3 .6750 .5692
                              6t Bemidji State 18 14-4-2 .7500 .5672
                              6t Michigan State 18 14-6-2 .6818 .5645
                              8 Boston College 17 10-5-2 .6471 .5563*
                              9t Vermont 15 10-6-2 .6111 .5540*
                              9t St. Cloud State 15 10-7-3 .5750 .5505
                              11 Minnesota-Duluth 14 12-7-1 .6250 .5502
                              12t Yale 12 8-3-3 .6786 .5502
                              12t North Dakota 12 10-6-4 .6000 .5500
                              12t Massachusetts 12 11-7-0 .6111 .5384

                              Then as of Today (Monday) they look like this:

                              Jan 11, 2010 Pairwise – after weekend of games


                              Rk Team PCWs W-L-T Win % RPI
                              1 Denver 24 14-5-3 .7045 .5843
                              2t Miami 22 13-4-5 .7045 .5793
                              2t Ferris State 22 16-4-2 .7727 .5763*
                              4t Wisconsin 20 12-5-3 .6750 .5687
                              4t Bemidji State 20 14-4-2 .7500 .5636
                              4t Minnesota-Duluth 20 14-7-1 .6591 .5613
                              7 Michigan State 18 15-6-3 .6875 .5613
                              8 Colorado College 17 12-7-3 .6136 .5574
                              9 North Dakota 16 12-6-4 .6364 .5587
                              10t Vermont 14 10-6-2 .6111 .5492*
                              10t St. Cloud State 14 12-7-3 .6136 .5543
                              12 Yale 13 9-3-3 .7000 .5510*



                              What I find interesting is that Vermont dropped 1 place (and yes, I understand this is pre-mature to be following...but it is like fantasy football, if it were not for fantasy football, the NFL would not be much fun following).

                              Minnesota Duluth won 2 big games at home versus Colorado College, went from 11th to 6th; Denver split but went to #1 and Yale has 4 wins and 1 tie (including a 6-1 win over Ferris State) in their last 5 games, but pretty much stayed the same. Yet, Vermont, who has wins over all 3 of these teams, dropped a slot. Guess I was thinking as these teams climbed, Vermont would climb too with their wins over them. Perhaps the 3 game losing stretch Boston College is on is having more weight on Vermont than anything else?

                              Just curious...
                              Yeah BC is a big one and so are the losses in HE. Losing to UNH, UMASS , Merrimack etc.. those teams have terrible out of conference W-L records. That really drags down UVM.

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                              • #30
                                Re: 2009-2010 Official Vermont Season Thread : The Sequel

                                Does USCHO have any pictures of Miami that were not taken from the Gut last year?

                                This weekends games are on paper 2 of the easier ones left on the schedule and you would think 4 points is very possible. NE is coming off a wasted 4 goal rally versus UML, and the Cats are on a 4 game winning streak.

                                Golden opportunity or letdown alert?
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