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  • alfablue
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    Heck of a win tonight. Got us next Thursday off.

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  • Khryx
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    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Rumor is that Coach Berenson will announce his retirement Saturday night. Of ourse we knew that.
    I disagree, I think he would more likely announce something like retirement after the season is over or at the awards banquet. I suppose we will find out on senior night.
    Last edited by Khryx; 03-11-2016, 08:01 PM.

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  • UMICH
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    Rumor is that Coach Berenson will announce his retirement Saturday night. Of ourse we knew that.

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  • UMICH
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    Originally posted by Happy View Post
    Yep, it isn't the WCHA, but if the choice is you or the badgers or ohio state getting it, or Us, I want it for Us. the Big Ten sucks, but it's always better to win.
    Enjoy it while you sit at home and watch us in the NCAA Tournament (hopefully)....

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  • PrezdeJohnson09
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    Anyone know dates of when Michigan is coming to Dartmouth next year?

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  • alnike
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    This is an era of college hockey where scoring is down and talent is down, yet Michigan's stats continue to get worse. Function of goalie and continuous defensive breakdowns.

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  • alfablue
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    Originally posted by Khryx View Post
    I'm not sure if you know this but the poor GAA / high goals allowed against certain teams started the last year of the CCHA (not the year Mel left). Technically, it improved the first year after Mel left. For example, GAA for 2011-2012 was 2.17. I'll further point out this was fifth in the country, Hunwick had an average just below 2 (7th in country), and Hunwick had a 93.2 save percentage (6th in country). If this is downhill, then I believe you are talking nonsense. I will admit that after the 2011-2012 season our defense has gotten worse. For comparison, GAA for each season:
    2008-2009: 2.05
    2009-2010: 2.27
    2010-2011: 2.23
    2011-2012: 2.17
    2012-2013: 3.25
    2013-2014: 2.54
    2014-2015: 2.89
    2015-2016: 3.16

    The trend I most clearly see is that our defense has continually dropped while in the B1G. Putting this all on Mel leaving is presumptous. Did it have an affect on the team? I would be surprised if many would disagree.

    On the "fun" note, I beg to disagree. This is the first Michigan hockey team or Michigan football team that I have actually believed could come from behind and win on a routine basis in the last ten years. Personally, I find this fun as this is a luxury I have greatly missed. Granted the defense is heartbreaking at a minimum but the offense reminds of the teams from the 90's. I'll grant you this season we are 2-5 in one goal games and that is not fun.
    If you go back farther- it takes a while until the GAA stabilizes-

    98-99: 2.32 (Blackburn)
    99-00: 2.48
    00-01: 2.42
    01-02: 2.29
    02-03: 2.37 (Montoya)
    03-04: 2.4
    04-05: 2.43
    05-06: 3.01 (Sauer)
    06-07: 3.14
    07-08: 2.03

    The issues really started the year that Montoya went pro early, and we had to bring in Billy Sauer a year early. So 3 of the 4 seasons where we had a GAA over 3 (even barely), Mel was still coaching here (counting back to the first season after the last NC).

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  • Khryx
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    Originally posted by MGoBlueHockey View Post
    That's nonsense. We weren't seeing 24 goals given up to one team when Mel was still around. Everything has gone downhill since he left.

    This is not "fun". Michigan can't win close games or games where there are less than 3 goals scored. There hasn't been a close win since the GLI.
    I'm not sure if you know this but the poor GAA / high goals allowed against certain teams started the last year of the CCHA (not the year Mel left). Technically, it improved the first year after Mel left. For example, GAA for 2011-2012 was 2.17. I'll further point out this was fifth in the country, Hunwick had an average just below 2 (7th in country), and Hunwick had a 93.2 save percentage (6th in country). If this is downhill, then I believe you are talking nonsense. I will admit that after the 2011-2012 season our defense has gotten worse. For comparison, GAA for each season:
    2008-2009: 2.05
    2009-2010: 2.27
    2010-2011: 2.23
    2011-2012: 2.17
    2012-2013: 3.25
    2013-2014: 2.54
    2014-2015: 2.89
    2015-2016: 3.16

    The trend I most clearly see is that our defense has continually dropped while in the B1G. Putting this all on Mel leaving is presumptous. Did it have an affect on the team? I would be surprised if many would disagree.

    On the "fun" note, I beg to disagree. This is the first Michigan hockey team or Michigan football team that I have actually believed could come from behind and win on a routine basis in the last ten years. Personally, I find this fun as this is a luxury I have greatly missed. Granted the defense is heartbreaking at a minimum but the offense reminds of the teams from the 90's. I'll grant you this season we are 2-5 in one goal games and that is not fun.

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  • Happy
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    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Oh wow a banner, that means a lot.
    Yep, it isn't the WCHA, but if the choice is you or the badgers or ohio state getting it, or Us, I want it for Us. the Big Ten sucks, but it's always better to win.

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  • alnike
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    I agree with the MN fan here...

    Long gone are all the program's accomplishments from 1990-2005. Over the last 11 seasons, Michigan only has two regular season titles (Senior Seasons of Porter and Hagelin) and one playoff championship (09). This group of players has repeatedly come up short in nearly all money games over the past four seasons. I know in recent years that NCAA 4 seeds have gotten hot and made the Frozen Four, but I guess I have higher expectations and want more wins along the way.

    There has been considerable talent at certain positions here the last four years, now is the time to make something of it while these high-end players are here. So yeah, it will be more disappointing if the regular season shortcoming carries over into the conference playoffs.

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  • alfablue
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    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    And so it begins...

    https://www.michigandaily.com/node/2...e+Daily+Digest

    Hopefully the debacle against ohio state wakes the guys up just in time so they can win-out (including the NCAA Tournament). That's a large hop though...
    If we remember, past years have seen Red make mid-Feb adjustments to the line up, as the team starts to stagnate. But this team, the issues are coming really late- so it will be interesting to see if Red shuffles the line up so that the team pays more attention to details again.

    Based on Friday's game, I would break up the CCM line- they scared me all night with their defensive zone play. And for a second, I though Red did- as Compher came out with the second line in the 3rd period.

    We'll see.

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  • Bonin21
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    Originally posted by UMICH View Post
    Oh wow a banner, that means a lot.
    Lol... Even though the Big Ten is weak, it means we were better than you in conference play. Knowing how your team has been you'll choke in the NCAA and end up with nothing to show for the season and lose all your talent.

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  • UMICH
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    And so it begins...

    https://www.michigandaily.com/node/2...e+Daily+Digest

    Hopefully the debacle against ohio state wakes the guys up just in time so they can win-out (including the NCAA Tournament). That's a large hop though...

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  • UMICH
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    Originally posted by Happy View Post
    Well, we will probably hang a banner, and we don't have two hobey candidates on our top line. How can you squander an offense like that?
    Oh wow a banner, that means a lot.

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  • alfablue
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    Originally posted by Maznblu View Post
    The difference is that when Mel was still here, we used to win. Conference championships, league tourneys and we always had a shot to win it all. Since he's been gone, we lose way too many games that we shouldn't. And it seems like we lose every big game we play the past few years - games to make the tourney and games to win the B10 - like the past 3 losses. The offenses is fantastic to watch but the results the past 4 years have been incredibly frustrating and can only be labeled as underachieving.

    There may not be a Harbaugh or Miles out there, but Mel has done really well considering he's at Michigan Tech. He stayed at Michigan much longer than he needed to and he's now proven he can win as a head coach. It's time.
    Again, you are seeing the wins over the issues. Mel may or may not fix the issue- but I think that one can not correlate our current problems with Mel leaving. We lost bad big games even when he was here- heck our struggles with MSU when they had a good D is pretty clear.

    Our defensive issues go a lot longer back than you think. You don't remember the year we HAD to win the CCHA to get into the tournament? Or some of the terrible first round losses?

    This isn't new- it's just a little worse. And it doesn't take a lot from going from an NCAA streak to not having one. Had John Gibson come in instead of going pro at the last moment, that probably would have been enough for you to miss the issues, and Mel would not be the key you think he is.

    I would like to see Mel come back, too, BTW.

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