Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

[wolverineTrumpet]

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If it hasn't been posted yet ... THANK YOU SENIORS!

Indeed. I tried my best to get a loud "thank you seniors" chant in Fort Wayne, but the Miami fans were a bit loud to try and overcome. Not sure if the team could hear us.

Thank you Seniors for the last four years. The run they put together in the playoffs is something to be proud of.


Thank you Juniors, Sophomores and Freshman...we hope to see you all back next year.

[YostWithTheMost]

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4 Chris Summers D L 6-3/202 SR 02/05/1988 PHX Milan, Mich.
5 Steve Kampfer D R 5-11/197 SR 09/24/1988 BOS Jackson, Mich.
14 Brian Lebler F L 6-3/212 SR 07/16/1988 Penticton, B.C.
15 Anthony Ciraulo F R 5-6/175 SR 06/07/1985 Clinton Township, Mich.
20 Eric Elmblad D L 6-5/201 SR 01/25/1986 St. Ignace, Mich.

If it hasn't been posted yet ... THANK YOU SENIORS!

[KC8NIY]

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Ok guys...I know my type of people are not welcome around here so I'm going to make it short and sweet and GTFO.

I hate your program with every ounce of my being. However my father is a good friend of Coach Berenson and therefore I have been raised to respect your program. I admire the great resiliency that your team showed in the last month of the season...even when you guys kicked me in the stomach at Munn a couple weeks ago.

So let me just say congrats on a salvaged season and winning in the face of adversity...something my program hasn't been able to do.

Best of luck in the future, but not too much...

Posts like that are welcome here at any time, regardless of the affiliation

Thanks for the kind words.

[STATEdude3]

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Ok guys...I know my type of people are not welcome around here so I'm going to make it short and sweet and GTFO.

I hate your program with every ounce of my being. However my father is a good friend of Coach Berenson and therefore I have been raised to respect your program. I admire the great resiliency that your team showed in the last month of the season...even when you guys kicked me in the stomach at Munn a couple weeks ago.

So let me just say congrats on a salvaged season and winning in the face of adversity...something my program hasn't been able to do.

Best of luck in the future, but not too much...

[M-HockeyNet]

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Isn't Hunwick a senior next year as well? We have to bring one (or two) in for the following season, because by then it will be just Summers.

Yes, he is. So right now after next season we got Patrick Summers

[redwings8831]

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Not sure I heard much about Summerhayes being recruited by Michigan, though he certainly intrigued me. Top goalie in the USHL statistically...heck, with a 30-2-3 record in net, that's pretty impressive.

But I think you're thinking of the other USHL goalie, Jeff Teglia, whose name got brought up in an article not too long ago along with Vienneau about being looked at by Michigan. Teglia just committed to UMass, so he's off the board, too.

After the way Hunwick played during the playoff run, I'm not sure what the coaching staff is going to do now. Do we ride Hogan/Hunwick another season and focus on a goalie for 2011? Try to recruit a goalie like Vienneau for 2010 while focusing on another top goalie recruit?

Bob Miller of Rivals hinted Michigan's top target right now is Dalton Izyk for 2012. Hogan is a senior next year, which means there's a one year gap between him graduating and Izyk (or any other 2012 goalie) arriving that would leave us with just Hunwick and Summers in net. So be it this year or next, they need to find a goalie somewhere.

I prefer them taking a flier on a goalie this year to create a two year gap to give that kid a chance. If Michigan is targeting a top 2012 goalie, it could be hard to find a suitable 2011 goalie recruit, who might look at it as they're coming in for a year then expected to be replaced by whatever top 2012 goalie they recruit and that's not worth it.

Isn't Hunwick a senior next year as well? We have to bring one (or two) in for the following season, because by then it will be just Summers.

[Back check]

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Not sure I heard much about Summerhayes being recruited by Michigan, though he certainly intrigued me. Top goalie in the USHL statistically...heck, with a 30-2-3 record in net, that's pretty impressive.

But I think you're thinking of the other USHL goalie, Jeff Teglia, whose name got brought up in an article not too long ago along with Vienneau about being looked at by Michigan. Teglia just committed to UMass, so he's off the board, too.

After the way Hunwick played during the playoff run, I'm not sure what the coaching staff is going to do now. Do we ride Hogan/Hunwick another season and focus on a goalie for 2011? Try to recruit a goalie like Vienneau for 2010 while focusing on another top goalie recruit?

Bob Miller of Rivals hinted Michigan's top target right now is Dalton Izyk for 2012. Hogan is a senior next year, which means there's a one year gap between him graduating and Izyk (or any other 2012 goalie) arriving that would leave us with just Hunwick and Summers in net. So be it this year or next, they need to find a goalie somewhere.

I prefer them taking a flier on a goalie this year to create a two year gap to give that kid a chance. If Michigan is targeting a top 2012 goalie, it could be hard to find a suitable 2011 goalie recruit, who might look at it as they're coming in for a year then expected to be replaced by whatever top 2012 goalie they recruit and that's not worth it.

Thanks for the info. I was not thinking of Teglia. It was reported that Summerhays was being recruited by Michigan.

[M-HockeyNet]

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Not sure I heard much about Summerhayes being recruited by Michigan, though he certainly intrigued me. Top goalie in the USHL statistically...heck, with a 30-2-3 record in net, that's pretty impressive.

But I think you're thinking of the other USHL goalie, Jeff Teglia, whose name got brought up in an article not too long ago along with Vienneau about being looked at by Michigan. Teglia just committed to UMass, so he's off the board, too.

After the way Hunwick played during the playoff run, I'm not sure what the coaching staff is going to do now. Do we ride Hogan/Hunwick another season and focus on a goalie for 2011? Try to recruit a goalie like Vienneau for 2010 while focusing on another top goalie recruit?

Bob Miller of Rivals hinted Michigan's top target right now is Dalton Izyk for 2012. Hogan is a senior next year, which means there's a one year gap between him graduating and Izyk (or any other 2012 goalie) arriving that would leave us with just Hunwick and Summers in net. So be it this year or next, they need to find a goalie somewhere.

I prefer them taking a flier on a goalie this year to create a two year gap to give that kid a chance. If Michigan is targeting a top 2012 goalie, it could be hard to find a suitable 2011 goalie recruit, who might look at it as they're coming in for a year then expected to be replaced by whatever top 2012 goalie they recruit and that's not worth it.

[Back check]

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I have read that Michigan has been recruiting goalies Vienneau (Kingston-OJHL) and Summerhays (Green Bay-USHL). Summerhays signed with Notre Dame. Any word on Vienneau?

[UMICHhockeyRULZ]

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One question for you rule-book aficionados:

What's with not switching ends for overtime? Michigan had the long change for all but the 2nd period.

I noticed that too and I am also curious also. However, I do disagree with the long change part. You were there so you should have noticed that the benches were on opposite sides of the ice (like spartys).

[Caustic Undertow]

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This will make two posts for the season. And that will be it.

Win, lose, succeed, or stink, it is always great to be a Michigan fan. It is the crushing disappointments that make the mountaintops so sweet. '97 was great, but even better because of Stewart-to-Westbrook. '96 was great, but even better because of 95 and 94 and 93. This season's run was great, because of... well, the first three quarters of this season.

That said, Sunday night was a brutal way for it to end. It is not that Michigan lost; we all knew we could get beat by a better team and it would be worth it after what happened this year. It is not just that a win would bring Michigan to a dream Frozen Four in our backyard, something I have dreamed about literally from the moment this Frozen Four was announced (I, unlike most, have been in favor of the idea, and actually advocated it in a thread before the CCHA proposed it).

What is so brutal is the way that we lost. I could handle getting beat by the better team, but were they? Not exactly...

2003 is a good analogy. Being soooo close (Ryznar, who dominated that entire tournament, had a different shot that was stopped only by Paul Martin's glove, that would have won it). Playing so well. And, in my current thinking, being good enough that if Michigan just gets the win they are good enough to win the whole thing. In 2003 there was no question that the two best teams in the country were playing on that ice; at least then it was at the Frozen Four and I could reluctantly accept that Minnesota was a deserving victor. This season Miami, while good and certainly not at fault for officiating, by all rights should have lost.

If this had been like 2004, where we took BC to overtime but were clearly the inferior team, it would be easier. If it were like 2005, where we choked a 3 goal lead but had no real chance against Denver, it would be easier. Alas, a Michigan team in Detroit playing like this? A tenth banner could not have been closer.

Brutal.

However, if you gave me the choice of having the season end in East Lansing and having it end here? Take it every time. Losing stinks--but irrelevance stinks much worse. We watch sports because we want to care. We want to be excited. We want victory, but that victory is most satisfying when accompanied by the threat of defeat. And to root for a team that fights so valiantly, succeeds so improbably, progresses so dramatically, gives its absolute best, and comes up short?

That's what we signed up for. Someday we will speak fondly of this team, the way we speak fondly of that great '97 team or the incredible regionals in '02 and '03, the way we remember Porter and Knuble and Wiseman. Fond memories, memories worth revisiting, memories worth coming back to.

And some day we will see that tenth title, and remember, and rejoice.

[UMICHhockeyRULZ]

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ANY touching of the puck by a Miami player would have resulted in a whistle; there was a delayed penalty on them. People keep harping on whether the puck was covered up or not; that wasn't the issue. It didn't NEED to be covered up for the whistle to blow, only touched by a Miami player (which it obviously was).

In order for play to be whistled dead a Miami played must "control" the puck, not just touch it.

[IrishHockeyFan]

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Must spred rep....

Nicely written.

Hopefully by this weekend, both in our houshold will feel the same.

Got him for ya! Take half the credit. And I agree. Very nicely written. No matter how the season ended, the team gave you guys a lot to remember the last few weeks. Sorry it ended sooner than you wanted it to.

Have a great spring and summer UM people. To who it applies, go Wings! Go Tigers! Go away Lions! Can't wait for October. It'll be here soon enough.

and good luck with the Posters Game alfa. Nice job securing a great spot for it. Have fun all!

[umichjim]

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"Anyway both play definitely gives me bad flashbacks to 2003 against the Gophers, who was the Michigan player who got his goal disallowed again in that game? I've been trying to remember all day."

That goal popped into my head as soon as Lynch's was waived off. I am pretty sure it was Jason Ryznar. I was sitting right behind the net and heard the whistle go just as his shot crossed the goal line. Man, those hurt especially in the tournament.

[wooderson]

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WT I think you hit the nail on the head. If you look at Miami's second goal the ref was right on top of the play, pretty much draped over the back of the net. On our disallowed goal he didn't change his position at all after Hagelin centered it, so he had the wrong angle to see that the puck wasn't covered. Granted it was a very quick play, but he still should have been in much better position. Could fatigue have been the reason he wasn't? Anyway both play definitely gives me bad flashbacks to 2003 against the Gophers, who was the Michigan player who got his goal disallowed again in that game? I've been trying to remember all day.

I figured going into the game that if we lost it wouldn't hurt as much as past NCAA tournament losses have, but I underestimated the cruelty of whatever evil 2009-10 curse Michigan is under. Well played, '09-10, well played. In about a week or so I'll be able to look back fondly on this amazing run, and Hunwick (fantastic again tonight), and everything else. But right now...yeah it feels pretty much like it always does after an NCAA tournament loss. Which I guess really sums up what the guys accomplished in the last few weeks, I went from barely caring if we lost in the 1st round to LSSU to being crushed that we didn't win the national championship.