Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

[kdilks]

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Mid-weekend standings update: In order to finish in 4th place...

A) If we win out, we'd still need Lake State to steal at least 2 points from Northern next weekend.

B) If we only drop one more point to
I. Notre Dame, then we need Lake State to steal at least 3 points from Northern.
II. Northern, then we'd need Lake State to steal at least 4 points from Northern.

C) Theoretically it's possible for us to move past Michigan State to get into 4th (or even 3rd ), but that would involve them taking 3 or less points in their last three games, two of which are against Bowling Green.

D) If we do drop a point, and Alaska beats Lake State again tomorrow (which seems likely), then we would only move ahead of Alaska in the above situations via the tiebreaker. So while it is possible to finish in 4th after dropping 2 remaining points, we would need either Lake State to catch fire or a classic "Sparty, no!" meltdown for that to happen.

In conclusion, Go Lakers!

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(I fully expect we will lose tomorrow and all this analysis will be for naught)

[IrishHockeyFan]

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Not sure if I'll bother going to senior night. Geez- with the olympics and survivor on TV- some real entertainment there.

Hey, you'll be playing Notre Dame. We've managed 3 straight losses to last place teams. Seeing a Michigan win AND IHF's head exploding all in the same night HAS to be more entertaining than either the Olympics or Survivor!

[KC8NIY]

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Here's an interesting stat for the night:

Dave Wohlberg is now tied with Bobby Hayes, Jeff Jillson, Geoff Koch, Scott Matzka, and Andy Hilbert for number of stand-alone misconducts taken in one season (3). He leads that group on a pace of 1 per 11 games.

[kdilks]

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I disagree. Tell me the last time Michigan won a road series during the playoffs- not too often back in the early Red days. They have swept one team b2b on their ice, and that was LSSU early in the season. (Split w/OSU, swept at UNO, everything else has been H&H).Tell me the last time they lost a Yost playoff series. I'll take my chances at home- and if they screw that up, which they could considering how they can't put two or three quality games together this season, then it would be a fitting end to the season. As it is, the prospect of having Miami prison sex them at JLA isn't all that appealing, either, especially in front of a partisan anti-Michigan crowd. If anything, it would sure temper any of the pre-season hype for next year.

Well, lots of things are different this year as opposed to the last 20 years.

[KC8NIY]

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wow.

Yep

just wow.

Ditto

For once, I'm not at all bummed that I have something else to do tomorrow instead of seeing a game.

The last time that probably happened, was, well.... has it happened?

And it was pretty amazing that the crowd very much reflected the energy on the ice for UM. It sounded like Munn for most of the game.

You know, I was somewhat surprised how empty Yost was until faceoff. Then it filled up, and by that point I was surprised that it filled up. Winning builds the atmosphere and attendance we've come to enjoy. Losing breeds apathy and disinterest. Senior night may very well be comparable, attendance wise, to Tuesday BG. Although it could lack the atmosphere that even that game had.

At times, they had some decent chances. But I never really felt we were that much of a threat to win. Once again, some very, very bad penalties taken on our part.

Absolutely. They just weren't able to do much, and they might as well just sit a guy and skate 4 on 4 for the power plays they're given. Brutal as of late.

There's always next season, right KC?

I'm starting to have concerns about that as well. Depends on what this year's problem really is.

Not sure if I'll bother going to senior night. Geez- with the olympics and survivor on TV- some real entertainment there.

Earlier today I begged off a work commitment because I realized it coincided with senior night. I still hold that I'd rather be at Yost than at work or home, but man, give me something to be excited about. Right now, even I'm starting to become apathetic about what remains of the season.

Win tomorrow, or we're seriously in danger of turning in those playoff tickets. Well, I suppose we could microwave them, or give them to the neighbors kids to use as a sled for their action figures, or sell them on ebay to unsuspecting fools, etc....As it stands, the first round bye is essentially gone. I don't plan on winning our last three, and I don't think NMU does worse than a split against Lake State.

[alfablue]

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wow.

just wow.

For once, I'm not at all bummed that I have something else to do tomorrow instead of seeing a game.

And it was pretty amazing that the crowd very much reflected the energy on the ice for UM. It sounded like Munn for most of the game.

At times, they had some decent chances. But I never really felt we were that much of a threat to win. Once again, some very, very bad penalties taken on our part.

There's always next season, right KC?

Not sure if I'll bother going to senior night. Geez- with the olympics and survivor on TV- some real entertainment there.

[streaker]

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I don't think finishing in the top 4 necessarily has to be part of the miracle process. Finishing in 5th or 6th and building momentum against Western/Bowling Green at home before going on the road to Ferris State(maybe even Michigan State?) seems better than finishing 4th and having a week off before drawing a team that's been hot down the stretch like Northern or UNO.

I disagree. Tell me the last time Michigan won a road series during the playoffs- not too often back in the early Red days. They have swept one team b2b on their ice, and that was LSSU early in the season. (Split w/OSU, swept at UNO, everything else has been H&H).Tell me the last time they lost a Yost playoff series. I'll take my chances at home- and if they screw that up, which they could considering how they can't put two or three quality games together this season, then it would be a fitting end to the season. As it is, the prospect of having Miami prison sex them at JLA isn't all that appealing, either, especially in front of a partisan anti-Michigan crowd. If anything, it would sure temper any of the pre-season hype for next year.

[kdilks]

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There is no doubt that UNO is playing its best hockey right now, and beat Michigan this past weekend as much as Michigan made it easy for them to do that. The home record is basically what is keeping them in the top part of the standings.

Michigan has individual talent, but is missing a bunch of components- exhibiting the same mental blunders as the first part of the season. That tells me that something is amiss in the locker room, especially now with uncharacteristic (and understandably frustrating) quotes from Berenson regarding the officiating and the effort of certain members of this team, particularly between the pipes. We appreciate the moral support, but the truth is, this team hasn't shown the consistency to win a string of games all season- and that is what it is going to take to finish in the top four, avoid a first round series, win a second round series, and then by some miracle beat Miami and (name your CCHA team) in order to qualify for the NCAA playoffs.

I don't think finishing in the top 4 necessarily has to be part of the miracle process. Finishing in 5th or 6th and building momentum against Western/Bowling Green at home before going on the road to Ferris State(maybe even Michigan State?) seems better than finishing 4th and having a week off before drawing a team that's been hot down the stretch like Northern or UNO.

[streaker]

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I was at the Friday game and was generally impressed with how UNO played. That said this Michigan team isn't in the class of recent years. The standings tend to reflect this. If someone watching this weekend didn't know any better they would have thought that UNO had 10+ NHL draft picks on the team.

I am sure that UM will make some noise in the playoffs, when it truly matters. Hopefully UNO can build on this sweep and get some points out of the Miami series.

There is no doubt that UNO is playing its best hockey right now, and beat Michigan this past weekend as much as Michigan made it easy for them to do that. The home record is basically what is keeping them in the top part of the standings.

Michigan has individual talent, but is missing a bunch of components- exhibiting the same mental blunders as the first part of the season. That tells me that something is amiss in the locker room, especially now with uncharacteristic (and understandably frustrating) quotes from Berenson regarding the officiating and the effort of certain members of this team, particularly between the pipes. We appreciate the moral support, but the truth is, this team hasn't shown the consistency to win a string of games all season- and that is what it is going to take to finish in the top four, avoid a first round series, win a second round series, and then by some miracle beat Miami and (name your CCHA team) in order to qualify for the NCAA playoffs.

[redhawk95]

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I should have known not to after only 3 good seasons.. .

No way. With Jeff Jackson behind the bench, you have every right to be excited and with high expectations. Besides, season ain't over yet - and that's the same for Michigan too.

[UNOMav]

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That is precisely why you see few of them on this site... so they can sit in the comfort of their barns or silos and type to their hearts content, cowards behind a computer keyboard and groupthink about how classless we are, or how the CCHA is bought, or create delusions about their program. Those you do see here (save one particular poster) are upboard about stuff and don't represent the circle jerk mentality.

I was at the Friday game and was generally impressed with how UNO played. That said this Michigan team isn't in the class of recent years. The standings tend to reflect this. If someone watching this weekend didn't know any better they would have thought that UNO had 10+ NHL draft picks on the team.

I am sure that UM will make some noise in the playoffs, when it truly matters. Hopefully UNO can build on this sweep and get some points out of the Miami series.

[mcfarljd]

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So that I can continue to distract myself from this "season" of "team" playing...

Assuming Miami's run at being a top team in the CCHA lasts for more than 5 more years, I'm sure your status of being a rival will be cemented- but not on the same level as MSU. It will be like Lake State of the early-mid 90's, where we knew they were very, very good, and would beat us in key games even when UM was playing to their potential. Outside of a handful of oddities, that kind of rivalry has a lot more respect than hate.

OSU, to be prefectly honest, is just a rival in hockey due to Football- it's not been a very even rivalry- their seasons of being good have been few and far between, so the level of competetiveness is not all that strong.

I personally think that the on ice rivalry with Minnesota and Wisconsin is stronger, even if we only play them once a year (and I'm thankful for that- without the CHS, we probably wouldn't play them).

But MSU will always be #1 on the ice. Even when they have a bad season, the games are well above the level of the season, at least on their part. So no matter what happens, the rivalry will be there.

Would not mind to see Miami be a strong rival... Or ND, too. But seasons like this even show how fickle that can be.

I think with the recent investment in both the Miami and ND programs, and each teams ability to reload with talent should be pretty telling in regards to ability to stay towards the top of the CCHA. With the exception of "bad luck" years (re: Michigan/ND 09-10, MSU 08-09, Miami 04-05), whether they be injury plagued or some other unforeseen circumstances, we should see those 4 vying for the top conference seed each season for some time to come. It took us about 20 years of CCHA play to become a mainstay towards the top of the standings, so here's to hoping we can continue taking some top spots.

[scullyer]

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Don Lucia says hi.

Yeah, I watch a lot of Minn too. I really think they need a change there. Almost like there's a sense of entitlement to win at the two UMs when you put the uni on.

[scullyer]

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Fire Berenson?

Not necessarily. He brings the guys in. He also helped get the USA program into A2. I'm a State fan so I'll leave that to the UM fans. I've just been watching this program for 20+ years (closely) and it seems that the talent seems to be top 2 every year. Sure they win the CCHA, but turn into the Atlanta Braves in the NCAAs. I really thought they would come out flying @ UNO and sweep. If they play to their potential, I think they can still win the CCHA tourney. This team has Frozen Four talent, so why can't they win on the road? They need better leadership on and off the ice. Just my two cents. I actually like to see UM do well because it brings the best out of MSU.

[kdilks]

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I have been saying for years that Red does less with the best talent than any other coach in the nation.

Don Lucia says hi.