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  • streaker
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by nmu_27 View Post
    Either way you wouldn't control your destiny. Northern jumps you with the win into 4th, tied with Alaska.

    Of course they aren't exactly the same, but the general standings are kept.
    How do you figure that (and I'm gonna split hairs with you.) We still have to win outright or at least win a shootout tonight and you still have to tie, lose a shootout or lose straight up. It don't matter if we don't take care of business, so no, it's not entirely up to another team completely controlling our destiny, and as of today it doesn't matter how the standings are kept. We lose, we're done. You win in regulation, we're done. Simple as that. LSSU shot their wad last night, 1:05 from shaving at least 1 point. You guys executed better and we crapped the bed this season, so I don't expect anything different tonight, especially with a back up goaltender playing on the road. We had our chance last weekend, and NMU deserves 4th if they win tonight.

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  • nmu_27
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by streaker View Post
    Yeah it does. In the old world, we'd be in a position to take a bye with a win or a tie saturday, providing we have the tiebreaker w/Alaska. Right now we have to rely on another team as well as take care of our own business.

    The gimmick points thing bit us, but not as much as we bit ourselves, losing games at home to Miami, BG, MSU and NMU.
    Either way you wouldn't control your destiny. Northern jumps you with the win into 4th, tied with Alaska.

    Of course they aren't exactly the same, but the general standings are kept.

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  • redwings8831
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Going into tonight:

    1. Miami 66
    2. MSU 46
    3. FSU 46
    4. Alaska 45
    5. UNO 44
    6. Michigan 43
    7. NMU 42
    8. tOSU 38
    9. LSSU 35
    10. Notre Dame 33
    11. BGSU 21
    12. WMU 18

    MSU (3 pts) and Ferris (2 pts) lock up byes. Northern won in OT, so they're up to a tie with Alaska with 45 pts. Miami is way up on OSU. Western got 1 pt and BGSU got nothing.

    Now:

    1. Miami 69
    2. MSU 49
    3. FSU 48
    4. NMU 45
    5. Alaska 45
    6. UNO 44
    7. Michigan 43
    8. tOSU 38
    9. LSSU 35
    10. Notre Dame 33
    11. BGSU 21
    12. WMU 19

    For us to get the bye: Get at least two more points than Northern tomorrow. 3 pts to 0 pts would give us sole possession of 4th. 3 pts to 1 pt would make it a two way tie with Northern, in which we have the tiebreaker (regulation CCHA wins). 2 pts to 0 pts would give a 3 way tie with Northern and Alaska, and again, we'd have the tiebreaker.

    Even if we don't get the bye, 2 or 3 pts tomorrow would put us in 5th, giving a first round series probably with Western (slight chance of BG) with a second round trip to Northern (or maybe Ferris if Northern gets 3 and they get 0 tomorrow). Not the easiest path, if we get 5th, but it could be worse. If we don't get 5th, then it could get much tougher.

    NOTE: We can't finish lower than 7th, so at least we won't have go to Miami in the second round. A trip to MSU is possible though.
    Last edited by redwings8831; 02-26-2010, 10:20 PM.

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  • IrishHockeyFan
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by mattmi View Post
    it wil be hard to win without hogan but im yhinking postive
    yeah, last night sure was a nailbiter...

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  • mattmi
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    it wil be hard to win without hogan but im yhinking postive


    Originally posted by wolverineTrumpet View Post
    Out of boredom and curiousity today I played with the league points for the CCHA and looked at what they would be without a shootout, as well as what they would be if we still had the absurd scoring from last year.

    Feel free to ignore this post, I just thought others may also be curious.

    Here is what I found:

    Michigan is currently in 6th place with last night's win. Michigan can not finish any lower than 8th. In bizzaro world where neither Sparty nor Ferris take points from Bowling Green and Western, respectively, Michigan could tie for 2nd. Finishing 4th is a possibility with a win and NMU not taking more than 4 points from Lake State.
    Miami 66
    MSU 46
    FSU 46
    Alaska 45
    UNO 44
    Michigan 43
    NMU 42
    tOSU 38
    LSSU 35
    Notre Dame 33
    BGSU 21
    WMU 18


    If the CCHA were still giving out 2 points for a win and 2 points for a shootout win/1 point for a shootout loss (as they did last year), Michigan would be hosting a playoff next week. No way around it. We'd be in 7th place with 29 points currently. Best the blue could finish is tied for 5th with UNO and NMU if NMU gets no points on the weekend. Lowest possible finish would be tied for 8th with LSSU.

    Crazy scoring from last year:
    Miami 46
    Alaska 34
    MSU 33
    FSU 33
    UNO 31
    NMU 31
    Michigan 29
    tOSU 28
    LSSU 25
    Notre Dame 25
    BGSU 17
    WMU 14




    In a "normal league" as I like to call the conferences which do not have shootouts, Michigan would currently be tied for 5th with 29 points. The lowest possible finish would be tied for 7th with tOSU, and the highest possible finish would be tied for 2nd (If MSU lost both games, and Ferris took no more than 1 point). The normal league standings would look as follows (with Omaha and Alaska finished conference play, Michigan and Notre Dame could at most earn 2 points, all other teams could earn up to 4 points):

    Miami 44
    MSU 31
    Ferris 30
    Alaska 30
    Michigan 29
    UNO 29
    Northern 28
    tOSU 25
    LSSU 23
    Notre Dame 23
    Bowling Green 13
    Western 13

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  • streaker
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by nmu_27 View Post
    So more or less, fans can complain about however points are earned, but for the most part it doesn't make a difference.

    There have been a ton of ties this year, though.
    Yeah it does. In the old world, we'd be in a position to take a bye with a win or a tie saturday, providing we have the tiebreaker w/Alaska. Right now we have to rely on another team as well as take care of our own business.

    The gimmick points thing bit us, but not as much as we bit ourselves, losing games at home to Miami, BG, MSU and NMU.

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  • nmu_27
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    So more or less, fans can complain about however points are earned, but for the most part it doesn't make a difference.

    There have been a ton of ties this year, though.

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  • wolverineTrumpet
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Out of boredom and curiousity today I played with the league points for the CCHA and looked at what they would be without a shootout, as well as what they would be if we still had the absurd scoring from last year.

    Feel free to ignore this post, I just thought others may also be curious.

    Here is what I found:

    Michigan is currently in 6th place with last night's win. Michigan can not finish any lower than 8th. In bizzaro world where neither Sparty nor Ferris take points from Bowling Green and Western, respectively, Michigan could tie for 2nd. Finishing 4th is a possibility with a win and NMU not taking more than 4 points from Lake State.
    Miami 66
    MSU 46
    FSU 46
    Alaska 45
    UNO 44
    Michigan 43
    NMU 42
    tOSU 38
    LSSU 35
    Notre Dame 33
    BGSU 21
    WMU 18


    If the CCHA were still giving out 2 points for a win and 2 points for a shootout win/1 point for a shootout loss (as they did last year), Michigan would be hosting a playoff next week. No way around it. We'd be in 7th place with 29 points currently. Best the blue could finish is tied for 5th with UNO and NMU if NMU gets no points on the weekend. Lowest possible finish would be tied for 8th with LSSU.

    Crazy scoring from last year:
    Miami 46
    Alaska 34
    MSU 33
    FSU 33
    UNO 31
    NMU 31
    Michigan 29
    tOSU 28
    LSSU 25
    Notre Dame 25
    BGSU 17
    WMU 14




    In a "normal league" as I like to call the conferences which do not have shootouts, Michigan would currently be tied for 5th with 29 points. The lowest possible finish would be tied for 7th with tOSU, and the highest possible finish would be tied for 2nd (If MSU lost both games, and Ferris took no more than 1 point). The normal league standings would look as follows (with Omaha and Alaska finished conference play, Michigan and Notre Dame could at most earn 2 points, all other teams could earn up to 4 points):

    Miami 44
    MSU 31
    Ferris 30
    Alaska 30
    Michigan 29
    UNO 29
    Northern 28
    tOSU 25
    LSSU 23
    Notre Dame 23
    Bowling Green 13
    Western 13

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  • UMICHhockeyRULZ
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by alfablue View Post
    If you are Joe College, it's apparent why you've been in college so long. And may need some remediation....
    He's a sparty fan. Can't read! Can't write!

    That ought to clear it up.

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  • CHATJ
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by alfablue View Post
    If you are Joe College, it's apparent why you've been in college so long. And may need some remediation....
    Haha... sad

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  • alfablue
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by CHATJ View Post
    Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

    Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!
    If you are Joe College, it's apparent why you've been in college so long. And may need some remediation....

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  • CHATJ
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by CHATJ View Post
    Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

    Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!
    Wow I said push way too many times in that post! well only twice but still!!

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  • CHATJ
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    Re: Michigan Hockey 2010 - Delivery or Take Out?

    Originally posted by UMICHhockeyRULZ View Post
    No advertising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lazy, lazy, lazy...
    Um I am sure the advertising just hasn't yet because they are waiting to see who finishes in the top 4 that way they don't waste money in places where there would be no interest! Which is a good strategy but would involve a very heavy push in a short peroid of time!

    Plus Social Media is free so why wouldn't they push that!

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  • wolverineTrumpet
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    1. Joe College is one of the most pathetic mascots ever

    2. Michigan has a home game tonight. Which of the underachieving teams will come out on top?

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  • UMICHhockeyRULZ
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    Originally posted by CHATJ
    Michigan Fans!!!!!


    Hoping the team can make it to Detroit for the CCHA championship!

    Want to see them if they make it! Need Tickets for free?

    Just go to

    Joe College Facebook

    and answer the trivia question! while your at it become a friend of Joe College on facebook and tell your friends, this won't be the last opportunity!
    No advertising!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Lazy, lazy, lazy...

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